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Post by Sir Drell on Jan 27, 2018 12:03:01 GMT
Here's my thought: I feel like buying a game you don't want in hopes of getting something else, later on, is a bad strategy. EA/Ware is not all that interested in initial sales anymore-after all Andromeda did very well with sales and it still got dropped like it's hot cause of the negative feedback. The money that EA/Ware are interested in is long time investments via microtransactions/DLC etc. If you, like myself, have no interest in playing Anthem then why throw away 60 bucks? You won't be the customer they want-cause you don't even want to play the game and certainly don't want to drop extra money on top of that. Also, there is an honest fear that supporting anthem tells BioWare that we want that sort of game and we agree with EA that single player is boring and done. I'm not feeding that monster. Please note, that I have nothing but love for anyone who likes those games like my dearest Dirkyboo the birb. However, not everyone does like it and no one should buy it out of fear of not getting Dragon Age. Anthem will be a success or a failure based on its merit and the reception of it by the people who play those kinds of games-not be RPG fans giving them 60 bucks or more out of fear. Conclusion, don't buy this game even if you think it'll help. The only way to help is to spend hundreds of moneys on the game over a long time and even then that'll probably kill single player games even more. |
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Post by Red Fox on Jan 27, 2018 14:44:21 GMT
Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Personally I'll wait a couple of months to see if the dlc is worth the price of admission and if they actually learned from bungie. Right now it's a lukewarm interest only because I like these kinds of games and initially liked destiny 2.
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Post by Scottphoto on Jan 28, 2018 15:38:44 GMT
I'm just going to wait to see how in depth the story content is, if there is romances, etc. Cuz I don't mind playing these type of games, I think Bioware could make them even better, sure. It just sucks the game cost both mass effect and dragon age and maybe old republic, stuck in their production.
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Post by Red Fox on Jan 28, 2018 21:05:55 GMT
I'm just going to wait to see how in depth the story content is, if there is romances, etc. Cuz I don't mind playing these type of games, I think Bioware could make them even better, sure. It just sucks the game cost both mass effect and dragon age and maybe old republic, stuck in their production. I don't expect romance if they are going the destiny route which it seems like. |
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Post by dgcatanisiri on Jan 28, 2018 21:53:49 GMT
Yeah, maybe it's just that they're trying to appeal to that crowd, but considering that demo footage showed only two players talking over headsets, not actual character interactions beyond receiving the mission, I am really not putting much faith in character dynamics, because they're not showing the PC going on missions with a team of AI-controlled characters but another player.
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Post by Red Fox on Jan 28, 2018 23:47:23 GMT
Yeah, maybe it's just that they're trying to appeal to that crowd, but considering that demo footage showed only two players talking over headsets, not actual character interactions beyond receiving the mission, I am really not putting much faith in character dynamics, because they're not showing the PC going on missions with a team of AI-controlled characters but another player. I would wager you either play solo or with other people. |
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Post by Scottphoto on Jan 29, 2018 6:31:23 GMT
I'm just going to wait to see how in depth the story content is, if there is romances, etc. Cuz I don't mind playing these type of games, I think Bioware could make them even better, sure. It just sucks the game cost both mass effect and dragon age and maybe old republic, stuck in their production. I don't expect romance if they are going the destiny route which it seems like. They have to do something different though, be it having companions and/or even tiny romances with them or a robust story campaign. A straight Destiny clone without any Bioware touch to it isn't going to cut it. Otherwise it will literally be called just that. Yeah, maybe it's just that they're trying to appeal to that crowd, but considering that demo footage showed only two players talking over headsets, not actual character interactions beyond receiving the mission, I am really not putting much faith in character dynamics, because they're not showing the PC going on missions with a team of AI-controlled characters but another player. True. Though that was a fancy tech demo. Who knows what the final product looks like for Bioware these days lol. Maybe there is at least one character you can have with you if playing solo. |
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Post by Red Fox on Jan 29, 2018 6:42:41 GMT
I don't expect romance if they are going the destiny route which it seems like. They have to do something different though, be it having companions and/or even tiny romances with them or a robust story campaign. A straight Destiny clone without any Bioware touch to it isn't going to cut it. Otherwise it will literally be called just that. Yeah, maybe it's just that they're trying to appeal to that crowd, but considering that demo footage showed only two players talking over headsets, not actual character interactions beyond receiving the mission, I am really not putting much faith in character dynamics, because they're not showing the PC going on missions with a team of AI-controlled characters but another player. True. Though that was a fancy tech demo. Who knows what the final product looks like for Bioware these days lol. Maybe there is at least one character you can have with you if playing solo. I expect story and thats it. not expecting companions. |
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Post by Beefy Titans on Jan 30, 2018 22:06:47 GMT
Bioware is now official "delayed" to early 2019
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Post by Red Fox on Jan 31, 2018 0:13:09 GMT
Bioware is now official "delayed" to early 2019  |
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Post by lilyena on Jan 31, 2018 1:17:02 GMT
I thought we already expected to come out in the first couple of months of 2019? Or are they not even shooting for 4Q of 2018 fiscal anymore?
In any case...ugh. This thing is standing in the way of my new DA game. It needs to be done with.
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Post by dgcatanisiri on Jan 31, 2018 10:32:15 GMT
No surprise, really - like, PR talk is PR talk, always got to put a nice spin on things, but the fact is, whatever they're using as an excuse, they're really just waiting for the results of anything to do with lootboxes. Because with legislation proposed and investigations ongoing, it is entirely possible that there will be new laws to deal with in time for release. They're waiting to see how these things shake out before releasing Anthem, because they need to be able to change directions if and when the laws actually say that they can't do the things they intend to. Roughly a year gives a chance to bare minimum see which way the wind ultimately blows on the subject.
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Post by Red Fox on Mar 10, 2018 16:54:12 GMT
I'm assuming this means the writing is done. Still not having much hope for this game. |
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Post by Red Fox on Mar 10, 2018 17:53:17 GMT
I'm assuming this means the writing is done. Still not having much hope for this game. Well, it could certainly mean that, but how many writers of Karyshyn's calibre, who rejoin a developer to work on a critical project leave the developer before the project goes gold? And with Anthem being one of those Destiny-type 10 year games, it makes even less sense because those games are continual works in progress. I have a bad feeling, but I hope I'm wrong. I have no desire to see Bioware axed by EA. Well I was reading this is pretty common. You get hired on for a task and you leave after. That is what it sounds like from his own personal blog. |
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Post by lilyena on Mar 10, 2018 18:30:02 GMT
Well, it could certainly mean that, but how many writers of Karyshyn's calibre, who rejoin a developer to work on a critical project leave the developer before the project goes gold? And with Anthem being one of those Destiny-type 10 year games, it makes even less sense because those games are continual works in progress. I have a bad feeling, but I hope I'm wrong. I have no desire to see Bioware axed by EA. Well I was reading this is pretty common. You get hired on for a task and you leave after. That is what it sounds like from his own personal blog. I imagine most of the writing has to be done at this point, there is really no reason for him to stick around. There are other talented writers still on staff in case something comes up. |
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Post by Red Fox on Mar 10, 2018 19:45:20 GMT
Well I was reading this is pretty common. You get hired on for a task and you leave after. That is what it sounds like from his own personal blog. I hope you're right, but I have to disagree. This is not just some writer. It's Karpyshyn. He built Bioware's reputation for storytelling. Anthem, from all we know, is the storytelling opportunity of a lifetime. It's a 10 year project. The initial release is just the tip of the iceberg. The fact that he left the project before it even went gold is worrying. But let's wait and see. First off I can guarantee this will not be a 10 year project. If Destiny couldn't do it this game certainly won't. Second his own words were basically that he came back to do some work for Bioware but now wants to do other things. I didn't say it, he did. If you don't believe me read his blog. |
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Post by Vallerie on Mar 12, 2018 1:31:37 GMT
Bioware is now official "delayed" to early 2019
Not necessarily. EA got quite burned by mistiming release of Titanfall 2 (if anyone still remembers its existence), so it could easily be them learning from that and trying to get Anthem a better shot. Not saying it definitely is that, but I wouldn't immediately go "You're lying!" either. |
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Post by Red Fox on Mar 12, 2018 1:42:53 GMT
Not necessarily. EA got quite burned by mistiming release of Titanfall 2 (if anyone still remembers its existence), so it could easily be them learning from that and trying to get Anthem a better shot. Not saying it definitely is that, but I wouldn't immediately go "You're lying!" either. I never for a second believed Anthem was coming out in 2018. |
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Post by Vallerie on Mar 12, 2018 1:47:12 GMT
Not necessarily. EA got quite burned by mistiming release of Titanfall 2 (if anyone still remembers its existence), so it could easily be them learning from that and trying to get Anthem a better shot. Not saying it definitely is that, but I wouldn't immediately go "You're lying!" either. I never for a second believed Anthem was coming out in 2018. Well, that is your prerogative. Just saying that immediately accusing them of lying isn't the most productive approach. |
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Post by Red Fox on Mar 12, 2018 1:48:22 GMT
I never for a second believed Anthem was coming out in 2018. Well, that is your prerogative. Just saying that immediately accusing them of lying isn't the most productive approach. Well I mean us saying they are lying doesn't really change anything right? |
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