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Post by Sir Drell on Jan 7, 2018 16:36:59 GMT
The game isn't even close to being out and its already a dumpster fire. You watch, EA is going to be spending all of its marketing time on this game going "it's just cosmetic, it's just cosmetic, it's not pay to win" except nobody fucking cares anymore. We don't care what's in the boxes, the boxes themselves are scum and people won't accept them (and it's still gambling when it's just cosmetic). |
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Post by Red Fox on Jan 7, 2018 16:40:01 GMT
The game isn't even close to being out and its already a dumpster fire. You watch, EA is going to be spending all of its marketing time on this game going "it's just cosmetic, it's just cosmetic, it's not pay to win" except nobody fucking cares anymore. We don't care what's in the boxes, the boxes themselves are scum and people won't accept them (and it's still gambling when it's just cosmetic). If this game blows up the outrage will be exponentially greater since Andromeda was sacrificed for it. |
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Post by Sir Drell on Jan 7, 2018 16:41:18 GMT
You watch, EA is going to be spending all of its marketing time on this game going "it's just cosmetic, it's just cosmetic, it's not pay to win" except nobody fucking cares anymore. We don't care what's in the boxes, the boxes themselves are scum and people won't accept them (and it's still gambling when it's just cosmetic). If this game blows up the outrage will be exponentially greater since Andromeda was sacrificed for it. How well known is that though? |
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Post by Red Fox on Jan 7, 2018 16:43:50 GMT
If this game blows up the outrage will be exponentially greater since Andromeda was sacrificed for it. How well known is that though? There isn't any direct evidence but given the A team worked on Anthem instead of Andromeda it is enough for me. |
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Post by Red Fox on Jan 7, 2018 16:50:56 GMT
So the only hope is they don't make the mistakes of Battlefield 2 and Destiny 2...it still is a sci fi game and I still want to play it eventually....I am conflicted. Bioware do the right thing for once!
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Post by Beefy Titans on Jan 9, 2018 20:41:51 GMT
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Post by Sir Drell on Jan 9, 2018 21:13:22 GMT
Until EA makes them.  |
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Post by Red Fox on Jan 10, 2018 4:28:05 GMT
Until EA makes them. If they go yessum massa to EA about this stick a fork in them because Bioware is officially dead. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Jan 11, 2018 12:26:58 GMT
Anything I hear about Anthem just reminds me once again of watching a train crash in slow motion.
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Post by dgcatanisiri on Jan 11, 2018 18:11:42 GMT
The whole business of Anthem is ridiculous to me. Like... No matter what, I keep coming back to 'this is not a BioWare game.' It's as if EA just realized that BioWare was a name they can bank on, having multiple successful properties, and so ordered this game from them. Because nothing I've seen or heard about Anthem says "BioWare" to me. You have a company known for its expansive singleplayer role-playing games, and decide to put out an MMO? Like, I understood it with The Old Republic - they did KOTOR, they had familiarity with the universe, and there was a lot of emphasis in unique singleplayer content in development. But this?
The aggravating thing is that if/when Anthem fails, proves to not be the Destiny competition that EA wants, EA will blame BioWare, worst case scenario even dissolving the studio, when... They are the ones asking BioWare to make what is not a BioWare game, what did they really expect? And really, BioWare can only push back on EA so much - unfortunately, they are the ones holding the pursestrings, if EA's not happy with BioWare, they can just cut their losses and, again, dissolve the studio.
I mean, I can comfortably watch Anthem crash and burn from a distance, because I have no interest in it whatsoever, but I do worry about what it doing so will mean for the BioWare franchises I love.
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Post by Sir Drell on Jan 11, 2018 18:32:47 GMT
The whole business of Anthem is ridiculous to me. Like... No matter what, I keep coming back to 'this is not a BioWare game.' It's as if EA just realized that BioWare was a name they can bank on, having multiple successful properties, and so ordered this game from them. Because nothing I've seen or heard about Anthem says "BioWare" to me. You have a company known for its expansive singleplayer role-playing games, and decide to put out an MMO? Like, I understood it with The Old Republic - they did KOTOR, they had familiarity with the universe, and there was a lot of emphasis in unique singleplayer content in development. But this? The aggravating thing is that if/when Anthem fails, proves to not be the Destiny competition that EA wants, EA will blame BioWare, worst case scenario even dissolving the studio, when... They are the ones asking BioWare to make what is not a BioWare game, what did they really expect? And really, BioWare can only push back on EA so much - unfortunately, they are the ones holding the pursestrings, if EA's not happy with BioWare, they can just cut their losses and, again, dissolve the studio. I mean, I can comfortably watch Anthem crash and burn from a distance, because I have no interest in it whatsoever, but I do worry about what it doing so will mean for the BioWare franchises I love. What's happened is they've told all the BioWare fans to fuck off for a while, because they're more interested in these multiplayer/Destiny people. We've been replaced, and then they'll come knocking on our doors later with DA4. Well guess what? I won't answer the bloody door. |
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Post by Red Fox on Jan 12, 2018 14:35:11 GMT
To be honest the way Bungie is fucking up Destiny 2 if Bioware does Anthem right it actually might he a hit.
But I expect Bioware to fuck up an easy win.
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Post by Ash on Jan 14, 2018 16:48:30 GMT
Anthem may be a hit.
Or people can be "wowzie cool" about Anthem as they were about D2, then play beta and be "wowzie cool shit they'll surely patch a few things before the release" about Anthem as they were about D2 and then you know the drill.
D2 was viewed as "cool, fresh start" since it was announced and during beta, and during beta bungo promised to fix things that annoyed players and you know how this vent. Even their recent developer update won't save the game - they're basically promising to give players things that should've been in game from the start. That were in D1 and then were taken away. And lmao, people are even angrier now, because "wait for a full year and pay for 2 more DLCs to get a shadow of D1 most of you already paid for".
So, nah. Given recent Eaware history and given the game industry rn in general they won't release a hit. Another D2 at best.
'mean, it was leaked from a pretty trusted source that they had to change Anthem's economy entirely after BF2 p2w lootboxes blew. This means that they had p2w lootboxes. They had the intention to insert them into the game. And nobody bat an eye.
Nah thanks, I'll pass.
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Post by Sir Drell on Jan 14, 2018 16:50:39 GMT
Anthem may be a hit. Or people can be "wowzie cool" about Anthem as they were about D2, then play beta and be "wowzie cool shit they'll surely patch a few things before the release" about Anthem as they were about D2 and then you know the drill. D2 was viewed as "cool, fresh start" since it was announced and during beta, and during beta bungo promised to fix things that annoyed players and you know how this vent. Even their recent developer update won't save the game - they're basically promising to give players things that should've been in game from the start. That were in D1 and then were taken away. And lmao, people are even angrier now, because "wait for a full year and pay for 2 more DLCs to get a shadow of D1 most of you already paid for". So, nah. Given recent Eaware history and given the game industry rn in general they won't release a hit. Another D2 at best. 'mean, it was leaked from a pretty trusted source that they had to change Anthem's economy entirely after BF2 p2w lootboxes blew. This means that they had p2w lootboxes. They had the intention to insert them into the game. And nobody bat an eye. Nah thanks, I'll pass. Haven't even thought about buying it for a second. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 17:45:36 GMT
I want this game to flop.. Why? 1: Half of Andromeda's problems it's cuz of it (more like EA decision as a chief but still) 2: EA/BW will have a lesson to not mess with ME fans  3: Maybe they will come back to make another ME game faster.. |
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Post by Crimson on Jan 14, 2018 18:07:02 GMT
Anything I hear about Anthem just reminds me once again of watching a train crash in slow motion. It's gonna be great you guys, you'll see.  |
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Post by Scottphoto on Jan 14, 2018 18:39:25 GMT
Anthem may be a hit. Or people can be "wowzie cool" about Anthem as they were about D2, then play beta and be "wowzie cool shit they'll surely patch a few things before the release" about Anthem as they were about D2 and then you know the drill. D2 was viewed as "cool, fresh start" since it was announced and during beta, and during beta bungo promised to fix things that annoyed players and you know how this vent. Even their recent developer update won't save the game - they're basically promising to give players things that should've been in game from the start. That were in D1 and then were taken away. And lmao, people are even angrier now, because "wait for a full year and pay for 2 more DLCs to get a shadow of D1 most of you already paid for". So, nah. Given recent Eaware history and given the game industry rn in general they won't release a hit. Another D2 at best. 'mean, it was leaked from a pretty trusted source that they had to change Anthem's economy entirely after BF2 p2w lootboxes blew. This means that they had p2w lootboxes. They had the intention to insert them into the game. And nobody bat an eye. Nah thanks, I'll pass. I don't know, I got what I wanted from Destiny 2 that Destiny 1 didn't have, an actual story mode with about the same caliber as Bungie used to do with Halo and they delivered on it. Don't really care too much about the other content. But with Anthem is different, from Bioware people expect a much bigger story content. A destiny 2 type of length story wouldn't do it. But for that audience who didn't get what they wanted out of Destiny 2, Anthem would have to really review well and be very clear of its loot, currency, grinding systems from the start. People are more vigilant because the EA name on it after Battlefront and if they felt betrayed by D2. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 19:14:56 GMT
The game can be even 10/10, still it will not make me play it, it's simple as I don't like MMO's or online games, and I loved BioWare for their's great RPG games not this..
One exception was MP in ME3 which was kinda cool, but game had also long single player experience with story DLC's so that's different.
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Post by Scottphoto on Jan 14, 2018 19:24:44 GMT
The game can be even 10/10, still it will not make me play it, it's simple as I don't like MMO's or online games, and I loved BioWare for their's great RPG games not this.. One exception was MP in ME3 which was kinda cool, but game had also long single player experience with story DLC's so that's different. Yeah, ultimately on this format they will be story extra situations probably stuck to only with multiplayer. |
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Post by dgcatanisiri on Jan 15, 2018 20:52:22 GMT
Like I said, I just worry about how EA will take this gaming flopping - it's a trend whether it's video games, movies, TV, whatever, the studio, the publisher, the ones who backed the failed product, they will always turn around and say that it wasn't the fact that the product itself was bad that caused it to bomb, it was this, that, and the other.
I fear that EA will pin the blame for the failure on BioWare itself and decide that their best way to maximize future profits will be to break BioWare up and spread around its various properties. EA doesn't accept that the heavy criticisms that have hit the last several games are because of how they are managing this company, it's that the company is the one who is doing things wrong.
That said, the fact that EA was hammered for Battlefront's lootbox system, which is facing multiple investigations into the whole thing... Honestly, for all EA's greed, I keep coming back to how the EU got the Pokemon games, published by Nintendo, who annually make more than all of EA's properties combined, to remove the Game Corner on the basis of them being gambling, so it is a possibility that whatever comes of that decision, it WILL change the model, hopefully while putting forward some other scapegoat.
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