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Post by Rouccoco on Jul 29, 2017 18:35:43 GMT
Ah well I'm all for the system that has the most protections for everyone involved. I'll be getting the Eldet art book with mine; so excited!  Nick is right btw, you totally should make an Eldet thread! Me too  Also, done  |
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Post by VFerreira93 on Jul 29, 2017 20:40:55 GMT
I admit that I was a bit tempted to refund this game but with this controversy and statements from some of the devs I keep seeing here, maybe it's time for me to do it. I do have 7-ish hours into it  |
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Post by Joey on Jul 29, 2017 22:08:59 GMT
So many dads with serious issues and bad endings.
People are upset.
And here I am. With my Hugo.
I luv my Hugo
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Post by Rouccoco on Jul 29, 2017 22:20:51 GMT
Hi Joey !! Look at what I've found |
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Post by Joey on Jul 29, 2017 22:26:28 GMT
Hi Joey !! Look at what I've found co kurwaaa wtf that was totally unexpected! |
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Post by Rouccoco on Jul 29, 2017 23:09:14 GMT
 I was searching through the LoF tag and thought I was seeing things  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2017 0:37:29 GMT
So your friend doesn't know anything about him yet? Wonder how they'll take the cult ending... He's deathly afraid of spoilers, so... he has no idea. But I want to be the one to break the news to see his reaction up close and personal. It would break his heart and I want to see it. ♥ ![]()  |
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Post by Rouccoco on Jul 30, 2017 0:37:52 GMT
If someone wants to see the cult ending. If I were you, I wouldn't do it.I'm going a bit backwards in this thread, but anyway, Graves would have been one of the hottest dads. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2017 0:42:41 GMT
omg wtf so glad i didnt pay those fuckers So I'm reserving judgment on Joseph, but I don't see what the problem is with Robert. If people are complaining that his ending isn't perfect, then I don't know what to say. I think his happy ending fits perfectly in his story. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2017 0:47:16 GMT
It's weird, honestly. If you don't get to know Mary and Robert, Joseph decides that their marriage is over and can't be saved but stays with her and the kids to keep a "perfect family" image. He does want to be with the dadsona though, just not openly. If you follow Robert's path and befriend Mary, he decides that he "loves" her and stays with her and doesn't accept himself. It's so heartbreaking because he's such a good guy and a loving father. He finally catches a glimpse of happiness at the end with dadsona, only to lose it shortly after. the devs actually said it that joseph isnt in the closet, and they were surprised that ppl wanted to break a married couple. so the good ending is really good, cause u know u make them see how much they love each other.... so they love each other but just cheat and argue like all "normal" couples right? what a mess  Yeah this seems a bit short sighted. "you're not supposed to like the straight female character in her main path but then empathise with her on side paths" |
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Post by L2 Sentinel on Jul 30, 2017 1:20:36 GMT
I have a pending refund request, but I don't know if it will get approved. Steam's policy states that games must have less than 2 hours played, and I have 5 hours played for some reason. I only played through Craig's route once, and it was short. I probably left the client open while I was cooking dinner or something, I don't know. But who knows, they might make an exception for my case. I still really like Craig, I just wish he was in a better game. EDIT: My refund was denied. Oh well.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2017 2:15:31 GMT
So many dads with serious issues and bad endings. People are upset. And here I am. With my Hugo. I luv my Hugo Craig and Hugo are clearly the best boys. |
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jul 30, 2017 2:22:38 GMT
even if I'm super pissed at the shitty devs's opinions, I still want a Robert in my life oh well, I'll always have fanarts and... nsfw art too  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2017 4:07:02 GMT
I guess I'm perfectly okay with how it turned out? I'm at peace with how you get some unfortunate aspects of the endings where it just doesn't work out, but with Robert, there's that glimmer of hope of picking up where you left off once he sorts himself out, which I think is fine, and with Joseph, well... sometimes characters make unfortunate decisions and that's part in parcel of storytelling in general.
I never expected Dream Daddy to be -everything- I seek in a visual novel, but it doesn't rule out a lot of the good stuff I've seen in game. And this is coming from someone who is hyper-critical.
Oh well.
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Post by Lee on Jul 30, 2017 4:08:48 GMT
Well shit, everytime I think it's okay to like this game (even if I can't play it) more shit hits the fan.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2017 4:15:48 GMT
Well shit, everytime I think it's okay to like this game (even if I can't play it) more shit hits the fan. There's a bit I can be critical of, like, someone tweeted at me and another writer that the game wants to tell interesting stories, but there isn't room for us as players to make interesting choices to get even more various endings for a culture as diverse as ours, and that's a very fair point to make. And if it's a dealbreaker, that's understandable. Being unable to get the happiest ending scenario no matter what you choose is rather bleak. And from the sounds of it, it's something the devs don't seem intent on expanding upon. But personally, those are unfortunate decisions I can accept as a player. Not so much so for other gamers, though. |
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Post by Lee on Jul 30, 2017 4:21:07 GMT
Well shit, everytime I think it's okay to like this game (even if I can't play it) more shit hits the fan. There's a bit I can be critical of, like, someone tweeted at me and another writer that the game wants to tell interesting stories, but there isn't room for us as players to make interesting choices to get even more various endings for a culture as diverse as ours, and that's a very fair point to make. And if it's a dealbreaker, that's understandable. Being unable to get the happiest ending scenario no matter what you choose is rather bleak. And from the sounds of it, it's something the devs don't seem intent on expanding upon. But personally, those are unfortunate decisions I can accept as a player. Not so much so for other gamers, though. I don't mind Joseph having a shit ending nearly as much as the intent behind them making it that way. I already moved on from Joseph honestly. Again though, not really anything I can do about it. I already didn't buy the game-but I was hoping it'd come to ps4 eventually. Now I'm not sure I care either way. ughies. This game is a bit of a roller coaster. Not as bad as MEA launch though at least. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2017 4:32:29 GMT
There's a bit I can be critical of, like, someone tweeted at me and another writer that the game wants to tell interesting stories, but there isn't room for us as players to make interesting choices to get even more various endings for a culture as diverse as ours, and that's a very fair point to make. And if it's a dealbreaker, that's understandable. Being unable to get the happiest ending scenario no matter what you choose is rather bleak. And from the sounds of it, it's something the devs don't seem intent on expanding upon. But personally, those are unfortunate decisions I can accept as a player. Not so much so for other gamers, though. I don't mind Joseph having a shit ending nearly as much as the intent behind them making it that way. I already moved on from Joseph honestly. Again though, not really anything I can do about it. I already didn't buy the game-but I was hoping it'd come to ps4 eventually. Now I'm not sure I care either way. ughies. This game is a bit of a roller coaster. Not as bad as MEA launch though at least. I will always go back to that. "Dream Daddy has some unfortunate endings" "...Could be worse. Could be Andromeda's m/m content upon launch." And for that, it earns brownie points. |
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Post by toomanyclouds on Jul 30, 2017 5:22:26 GMT
It might be an issue of time and place with the Joseph thing (aside from the unfortunate implications). From all I've seen of Dream Daddy, it didn't really seem like the kind of art project that has to include some discourse ending trying to make people "think about how they play dating sims". What is gained from having one of the anticipated dads be basically unavailable? That people realise relationship building in dating sims is unrealistic? That ex-partners or unfitting current partners are used in romances to make the intended lover sympathetic, but that they are actually really people who probably have their own stuff going on? That all seems obvious to me on a level that it doesn't really justify not giving him to the players who liked him (ending could even have Mary finding herself in some way if she's supposed to go against the romance trope of demon harpy ex-wife). In the end, it's a fluffy little dating sim that grew out of the dad joke/DILF meme and I'm not sure why it feels it needs to be ~above that~ with the Joseph story if it doesn't even have anything particularly original to say.
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Post by Lee on Jul 30, 2017 5:27:05 GMT
Yeah, that's my thought really. If they wanted it to be a turn on a story where we are the bad guy, then make it so Joseph is bi (not gay) and that Mary isn't a horrible shit wife-but just that they are going through a bad patch. then I could get what they were going with, but her sleeping with as many other men as possible-him not seeming to be into women at all- it's just a bad story honestly. I don't even want to touch Joseph, if there was an option to just not have him the game at this point that would be my route of choice.  Whatever though. It's not like I can play it anyway. |
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Whatever though. It's not like I can play it anyway. 
