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Post by phantomrachie on Aug 12, 2017 14:11:54 GMT
I went with Liara and Shep. I was tempted by Hawke and Isabela, but ultimately Liara and Shep had more sweet moments.
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Post by Andrew Mancer on Aug 12, 2017 14:54:22 GMT
I came across with this short survey on Reddit, I think is good to submit our feedback Done! I wonder what people reply for their favorite romance. Mine's Anders I chose Kaidan...but Andrew is a very close second. Kaidan only wins because we have a much longer history together, nostalgia, and he came into my life when I really needed him. Andrew on the other hand came into my life at a much better, more exciting time so I was less dependent on him emotionally....plus the huge lack of a Technomancer fandom creating fan art! I might just commission something myself because I can't seem to find any!As far as romance goes though they are on equal levels for me, each with their own strengths. Two wonderful guys that I love. Done! I wonder what people reply for their favorite romance. Mine's Anders I chose Alistair but also I said that since he's not a m/m romance I chose Jaal instead. Sigh Alistair.... we could have it all. I think I'd be in gay heaven if Alistair and Cullen had both been canonically bisexual men. Seriously those two are exactly what I am looking for in a medieval fantasy romance. I need that type of gay romance with a handsome, stubble/bearded, blonde/ginger gay KISA! ...I seriously hope either Obsidian or BioWare will deliver this with their next games. I'm not sure how much longer I can "hold out for a [prince]". Shameless Bonnie Tyler song reference.
Seriously though...I don't understand why Cullen wasn't the first choice for a bisexual romance. If he had been, then both males and females could have had their "Disney prince/princess" romance with Josephine and Cullen. It makes sense, right? Plus he already had a large fanbase prior to Inquisition? I envy females that got that sweet Josie romance! I'd have loved Inquisition so much more just for bi Cullen!
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Aug 12, 2017 15:24:56 GMT
Andrew Mancer we almost got Cullen and ofc it was because of time restraints, not that "I wrote him that way" bullshit that old gay grumpy Gaider tried to pulled on us. There're lines recorded, even spanish subtitles are translated... Sadly mlm players are not a priority. I just want that if some part of some romance have to be cut, it will be the straight part for once, or better they put their shit together and think well about the sexualities of their own characters and not leaving leftovers when dataminers do their work. It's just infuriating we were this close to get a KISA...With DAI I got lucky because I love Bull (even though BW keeps pulling that " But Not Too Bi" trope with preference for women that all BW bi men have) I love how he looks and he would have still been my canon romance in DAI anyway, but I totally understand that a purple giant with horns is not everybody's taste. And Dorian is out of the question for me sadly. Alistair however, gods that one hurts and will always hurt to me. Realistically, for DA I expect our greatly desired KISA, and if Greedfall have s/s romances I expect some native american warrior. I would be content with those personally. Sadly as much as I want a werewolf for DA, it fits more for an urban fantasy rpg, seriously I dont know how no company has done this yet. I hope Spiders confirms same sex romances soon, I really dont want to be disappointed.
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Post by Sir Drell on Aug 12, 2017 15:35:45 GMT
Andrew Mancer we almost got Cullen and ofc it was because of time restraints, not that "I wrote him that way" bullshit that old gay grumpy Gaider tried to pulled on us. There're lines recorded, even spanish subtitles are translated... Sadly mlm players are not a priority. I just want that if some part of some romance have to be cut, it will be the straight part for once, or better they put their shit together and think well about the sexualities of their own characters and not leaving leftovers when dataminers do their work. It's just infuriating we were this close to get a KISA...With DAI I got lucky because I love Bull (even though BW keeps pulling that " But Not Too Bi" trope with preference for women that all BW bi men have) I love how he looks and he would have still been my canon romance in DAI anyway, but I totally understand that a purple giant with horns is not everybody's taste. And Dorian is out of the question for me sadly. Alistair however, gods that one hurts and will always hurt to me. Realistically, for DA I expect our greatly desired KISA, and if Greedfall have s/s romances I expect some native american warrior. I would be content with those personally. Sadly as much as I want a werewolf for DA, it fits more for an urban fantasy rpg, seriously I dont know how no company has done this yet. I hope Spiders confirms same sex romances soon, I really dont want to be disappointed. If Spiders plays the silence game like BioWare...I'm not going to put up with that shit again. Yes or no, no bullshit. Yes = thanks, no = fuck off.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Aug 12, 2017 15:50:40 GMT
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Post by Andrew Mancer on Aug 12, 2017 16:18:11 GMT
Andrew Mancer we almost got Cullen and ofc it was because of time restraints, not that "I wrote him that way" bullshit that old gay grumpy Gaider tried to pulled on us. There're lines recorded, even spanish subtitles are translated... Sadly mlm players are not a priority. I just want that if some part of some romance have to be cut, it will be the straight part for once, or better they put their shit together and think well about the sexualities of their own characters and not leaving leftovers when dataminers do their work. It's just infuriating we were this close to get a KISA...With DAI I got lucky because I love Bull ( even though BW keeps pulling that "But Not Too Bi" trope with preference for women that all BW bi men have) I love how he looks and he would have still been my canon romance in DAI anyway, but I totally understand that a purple giant with horns is not everybody's taste. And Dorian is out of the question for me sadly. Alistair however, gods that one hurts and will always hurt to me. Realistically, for DA I expect our greatly desired KISA, and if Greedfall have s/s romances I expect some native american warrior. I would be content with those personally. Sadly as much as I want a werewolf for DA, it fits more for an urban fantasy rpg, seriously I dont know how no company has done this yet. I hope Spiders confirms same sex romances soon, I really dont want to be disappointed. Tiny rant here...leaving in spoilers for those who would prefer not to read more BioWare LGBT criticism. ...Yet those bloody hypocrites have no problem allowing females to openly express their desire for other women and making prominent females LGBT. I mean...if you're going to go around parading how "progressive" you are then how about being more fair and not just catering the the "L" part of LGBT and allowing men to openly express their interest in other men? ...And don't get me started on those stereotypes and their latest homophobic story. Ugh... ...And all this applies to Andromeda as well, their latest release. I'll have to write them a strongly worded letter if DA4 has yet another "but not too bi" male and no gay KISA...ugh... I do hope you get a native American warrior! I think I'll be happy with a scruffy nobleman/warrior. I'd totally go for a werewolf in an urban fantasy RPG. Maybe someday, eh? ....More ranting in the spoiler, sorry. Yeah...I'm not interested in non-humans and I just couldn't take Bull seriously with his design, personality, and voice...but I do love Freddie Prinze Jr....and yeah, I'm not happy with Dorian being a stereotype as their choice for the first prominent gay man in the series. Why couldn't it have been Blackwall instead? Now that would have been a praiseworthy romance for gay men. Something completely different and we could've have a gay KISA! I would've been happy if Dorian had been the straight option (with tweaks, obviously) and Blackwall the gay option...but of course it wasn't meant to be. ...Poor Blackwall. The females don't appreciate him anyway. I would've loved him! Haha, thanks Nick! I ended up getting lost in TV Tropes! Andrew Mancer we almost got Cullen and ofc it was because of time restraints, not that "I wrote him that way" bullshit that old gay grumpy Gaider tried to pulled on us. There're lines recorded, even spanish subtitles are translated... Sadly mlm players are not a priority. I just want that if some part of some romance have to be cut, it will be the straight part for once, or better they put their shit together and think well about the sexualities of their own characters and not leaving leftovers when dataminers do their work. It's just infuriating we were this close to get a KISA...With DAI I got lucky because I love Bull (even though BW keeps pulling that " But Not Too Bi" trope with preference for women that all BW bi men have) I love how he looks and he would have still been my canon romance in DAI anyway, but I totally understand that a purple giant with horns is not everybody's taste. And Dorian is out of the question for me sadly. Alistair however, gods that one hurts and will always hurt to me. Realistically, for DA I expect our greatly desired KISA, and if Greedfall have s/s romances I expect some native american warrior. I would be content with those personally. Sadly as much as I want a werewolf for DA, it fits more for an urban fantasy rpg, seriously I dont know how no company has done this yet. I hope Spiders confirms same sex romances soon, I really dont want to be disappointed. If Spiders plays the silence game like BioWare...I'm not going to put up with that shit again. Yes or no, no bullshit. Yes = thanks, no = fuck off. Well...considering that Andrew is... Zach's soulmate I'd be surprised if they have romance and didn't include same-sex options. I mean why would they be so open to it in one game where they make it seemingly canon that Zach and Andrew are meant to be together with that whole "Soulmate" thing and their history and new journey together...it's hard to imagine Zach going for anyone else with how the game treats their relationship as the seemingly intended canon path. I mean...if that was unintentional, how could they not realize? It's not exactly subtle. I am confident that if they do romance, there will be some very good same-sex options. After spoiler above, they've proved to me that they can handle m/m romance much better than BioWare.
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Post by Sir Drell on Aug 12, 2017 16:24:24 GMT
Davrin's boobs i did it. Andrew Mancer would you like to go onto that forum and show your support? Also sorry for sounding angry at Spiders, I'm not, i just have absolutely no tolerance for bullshit after MEA and I'm paranoid there's going to be more to come.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Aug 12, 2017 16:28:57 GMT
Andrew Mancer oh fuck I read the first spoiler what the heck that means!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I WANT TO PLAY NOWWW!!!! lol I agree with your rants btw but you need to be educated in monster sexiness yesss I saw it!!!
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Post by Sir Drell on Aug 12, 2017 16:46:40 GMT
yesss I saw it!!! Do you think we'll get homophobia? It seems to be everywhere on the internet, in places where people feel like they can get away with it.
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Post by Andrew Mancer on Aug 12, 2017 16:52:37 GMT
Davrin's boobs So my evil plan worked? It'll make sense when you play through the game and find out why I love Andrew so much. ...Maybe, haha! I check out the thread from time to time...I think you got me with those werewolves. Glad I'm not alone in the rants though. I don't want to be so critical of BioWare, the company that introduced me to gay protagonists...but they make it so hard to love them with how poorly they treat us and that whole Andrromeda disaster. Aww, it's a baby forum! How cute! I hope activity picks up on that sometime - I'd love to become an active part of their community. I'll keep an eye on it though! Sir Drell I totally understand! BioWare has left me pretty bitter about this stuff too...which is why I am so worried about what Pillars Of Eternity 2 and Pathfinder: Kingmaker will give us...will they give us gay KISAs/gay Princes/Kings, or will they follow BioWare's path and stick to the same old stereotypes and deny us these prince charming types? ....I just really want a cute, noble blonde to be gay for once. Please, developers?
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Aug 12, 2017 16:53:49 GMT
yesss I saw it!!! Do you think we'll get homophobia? It seems to be everywhere on the internet, in places where people feel like they can get away with it. honestly I dont care while the devs see those comments, the forum is deserted so it should be easy for them to see the thread, if some jerk comes to the thread, I'm not gonna spend my time fighting them ...Maybe, haha! I check out the thread from time to time...I think you got me with those werewolves.
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Post by Sir Drell on Aug 12, 2017 16:59:00 GMT
Do you think we'll get homophobia? It seems to be everywhere on the internet, in places where people feel like they can get away with it. honestly I dont care while the devs see those comments, the forum is deserted so it should be easy for them to see the thread, if some jerk comes to the thread, I'm not gonna spend my time fighting them I hope the devs know what we mean when we say m/m and w/w. Maybe we should stick to gay and lesbian? Anyway, my dream is that a dev responds and says "hey guys, we're doing a same sex romance for both genders and we're making sure they don't get cut, no matter what!"...and then of course they sprinkle some rainbow dust onto us. I can dream... ------------ Don't fight it Andrew Mancer , just let the woofies take you.
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Post by Ark on Aug 12, 2017 17:06:04 GMT
Sir Drell I totally understand! BioWare has left me pretty bitter about this stuff too...which is why I am so worried about what Pillars Of Eternity 2 and Pathfinder: Kingmaker will give us...will they give us gay KISAs/gay Princes/Kings, or will they follow BioWare's path and stick to the same old stereotypes and deny us these prince charming types? ....I just really want a cute, noble blonde to be gay for once. Please, developers? Yeah, despite being a kickstarter backer of the first PoE, I don't intend to buy the sequel if Eder isn't an m/m option. I was ok with the first game not having options at all, i mean it sucks but i can live with it. But now that they are introducing them, and Eder is still hanging around... and things need to "make sense". Such a great character... who happens to be voiced by the same guy who does McCree from Overwatch
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Aug 12, 2017 17:06:08 GMT
honestly I dont care while the devs see those comments, the forum is deserted so it should be easy for them to see the thread, if some jerk comes to the thread, I'm not gonna spend my time fighting them I hope the devs know what we mean when we say m/m and w/w. Maybe we should stick to gay and lesbian? Anyway, my dream is that a dev responds and says "hey guys, we're doing a same sex romance for both genders and we're making sure they don't get cut, no matter what!"...and then of course they sprinkle some rainbow dust onto us. I can dream... ------------ Don't fight it Andrew Mancer , just let the woofies take you. I edited my comment just in case! They responded to this thread, so maaaaybe if they can respond to us, they will.
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Post by VFerreira93 on Aug 13, 2017 0:50:42 GMT
Andrew Mancer oh fuck I read the first spoiler what the heck that means!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I WANT TO PLAY NOWWW!!!! lol Well, I did tell you about the achievement xD
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 1:01:53 GMT
Done! I wonder what people reply for their favorite romance. Mine's Anders I chose Kaidan...but Andrew is a very close second. Kaidan only wins because we have a much longer history together, nostalgia, and he came into my life when I really needed him. Andrew on the other hand came into my life at a much better, more exciting time so I was less dependent on him emotionally....plus the huge lack of a Technomancer fandom creating fan art! I might just commission something myself because I can't seem to find any!As far as romance goes though they are on equal levels for me, each with their own strengths. Two wonderful guys that I love. I chose Alistair but also I said that since he's not a m/m romance I chose Jaal instead. Sigh Alistair.... we could have it all. I think I'd be in gay heaven if Alistair and Cullen had both been canonically bisexual men. Seriously those two are exactly what I am looking for in a medieval fantasy romance. I need that type of gay romance with a handsome, stubble/bearded, blonde/ginger gay KISA! ...I seriously hope either Obsidian or BioWare will deliver this with their next games. I'm not sure how much longer I can "hold out for a [prince]". Shameless Bonnie Tyler song reference.
Seriously though...I don't understand why Cullen wasn't the first choice for a bisexual romance. If he had been, then both males and females could have had their "Disney prince/princess" romance with Josephine and Cullen. It makes sense, right? Plus he already had a large fanbase prior to Inquisition? I envy females that got that sweet Josie romance! I'd have loved Inquisition so much more just for bi Cullen! Because the DA team was in love with Iron Bull for some reason I'll never understand and thought everyone needed to have the opportunity for him to tell them that he knows what they want. I'm very happy with Dorian, but I would have much preferred to have the choice between him and Cullen.
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Post by Andrew Mancer on Aug 13, 2017 1:32:27 GMT
Yeah, despite being a kickstarter backer of the first PoE, I don't intend to buy the sequel if Eder isn't an m/m option. I was ok with the first game not having options at all, i mean it sucks but i can live with it. But now that they are introducing them, and Eder is still hanging around... and things need to "make sense". Such a great character... who happens to be voiced by the same guy who does McCree from Overwatch Goodness gracious! HOW DID I NOT REALIZE THAT MATT MERCER VOICED EDER?!?! I spent over 100 hours with that man in my party and I was head over heels for him!!!! Okay, now I really need him to be a gay romance option! I need to romance this wonderful, animal loving, family oriented, ruggedly handsome farmer!!! Please let it happen, Obsidian! I need to romance Robert Joseph MacCready all over again. Because the DA team was in love with Iron Bull for some reason I'll never understand and thought everyone needed to have the opportunity for him to tell them that he knows what they want. I'm very happy with Dorian, but I would have much preferred to have the choice between him and Cullen. His entire romance seemed like a joke to me, honestly. Not one to take seriously, which is something I'm definitely not looking for....add that to everything I mentioned previously as well as being another "straight but gay for you" types...yeah...no thanks. I've romanced Dorian three times just because he was my only other option...so I can see the appeal, but he just isn't for me. I still think Blackwall would've been a much better choice. Immersion breaking "my lady" aside, I was pretty invested in his modded gay romance and it broke my heart to leave him for Cullen. So yeah...modded gay Cullen or Blackwall for me anytime I go back to Inquisition.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Aug 13, 2017 2:23:14 GMT
Andrew Mancer oh fuck I read the first spoiler what the heck that means!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I WANT TO PLAY NOWWW!!!! lol Well, I did tell you about the achievement xD
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Post by Andrew Mancer on Aug 14, 2017 10:08:47 GMT
AAAHHH gay romance confirmed for Greedfall! ...Now I'm wondering what he will be like and if he will be able to top Andrew. Honestly, I was already pretty excited for this game because of the setting and how much I loved Technomancer, but this confirmation has me sold! I trust that they will be able to pull off yet another wonderful romance between the male protagonist and his male companion. They did so good with Andrew, he's perfect. I can't say the same for BioWare. I don't have any confidence in their ability to craft a good RPG and a good gay romance anymore. Not after Andromeda. Thinking about Gil still hurts and the thought of playing through Inquisition any more gives me headache.
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Post by Sir Drell on Aug 14, 2017 10:12:39 GMT
AAAHHH gay romance confirmed for Greedfall! ...Now I'm wondering what he will be like and if he will be able to top Andrew. Honestly, I was already pretty excited for this game because of the setting and how much I loved Technomancer, but this confirmation has me sold! I trust that they will be able to pull off yet another wonderful romance between the male protagonist and his male companion. They did so good with Andrew, he's perfect. I can't say the same for BioWare. I don't have any confidence in their ability to craft a good RPG and a good gay romance anymore. Not after Andromeda. Thinking about Gil still hurts and the thought of playing through Inquisition any more gives me headache. And lesbian romance, for the girls interested in the game.
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