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Post by Davrin's boobs on Nov 16, 2019 21:23:05 GMT
I dont know why there is no thread of this yet but hey just saw this
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 0:23:43 GMT
Ohh yuh, I saw this the other day. Wonder what direction they'll take...hopefully Andromeda 2'ish direction.
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Post by Lee on Nov 17, 2019 4:26:49 GMT
I really hope people don't rush out to preorder this time around. I think we need to see the proof that the game is not a train wreck at this point.
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Post by milanawalters on Nov 17, 2019 7:06:18 GMT
Ohh yuh, I saw this the other day. Wonder what direction they'll take...hopefully Andromeda 2'ish direction. i would like the continuation of andromeda, but i think it needs dlcs first...and the remaster of the triology
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Post by mediocreogre on Nov 17, 2019 15:40:45 GMT
You, you... you mean there might be another ME before I die of old age?!
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Nov 17, 2019 17:34:48 GMT
Save the quarians! Yeah, Andromeda needs some sort of continuation for sure. I am a pretty chilled out fan when it comes to story, I mean I can note when the story or decisions are better or worse but as long as the game let me feel valid as lgbtq gamer is fine, I mean can you imagine being worried about only animations or gameplay for example? my face is tired memes? lol that was fixed in the big patch and I bought the game after that patch so I never noticed anything worthy of my criticism, I feel like this hate MEA got was just an echo chamber of the most noisy toxic Bioware fanbase. MEA was a good ride, and DA2 is one of the best BW games storywise, I guess I'm in the unpopular opinion group but fuck those whiny fans lol The only things I ask for the next Mass Effect: - No rushed game, no horrible crunch time for gamedevs, if the game gotta be released in 2030 because you are treating workers as human living beings and is a good game so be it, everybody wins. - Equal romance distribution, I mean this is not hard to achieve, don't cater straight men with stupid soft porn scenes again and more stupid side romances, give everyone the same amount of content. Give everyone at least two squad members, even better, get rid of crewmember romances and focus only in the companions. - No more asari romance, I got lucky because I loved Liara as friend so I don't mind how close she is with my Shep but I feel for those who does not feel like me, it is irritating. I cant stand Peebee's advances, stop asari fetichization and make them a female empowerment force again please. More Lexi-like characters, less Peebee-like characters, please. - I need a continuation story, maybe thousands years later in the milky way (plenty of years to see what happens after ME3, is tricky but it can be done) to connect to andromeda galaxy or a proper continuation of MEA with Ryder. Or both lol I think MEA's idea was an awesome plan to do a sequel thousands of years after Shepard's story, it would be cool to see the consequences. - If I had to be picky, more "decisions matter" situations, MEA kinda lacked of them. - And.... NO MORE OPEN WORLD. And multiplayer shit. A story driven game first, if they wanna add multiplayer shit after that fine. edit. I would be down for a Mass Effect Trilogy remaster only if they restore bi Kaidan in the first two games, even better, restore Thane bisexuality as well, the original trilogy is a pain in the ass to play as gay Shepard, if they dont do that, they can keep it, I'm here playing with rondeeno's mods instead
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Post by farferello on Nov 17, 2019 19:15:52 GMT
I'd like a continuation of the Ryder's but I don't see how it'd work unless they made your sibling a squad mate. (No killing off or benching the one you didn't pick like what happens for most of MEA.) If instead they decide to go way into the future - idk. They kinda wrote themselves into a corner with the Milky Way. It's hard to go back there even hundreds/thousands of years into the future because you're still going to have to recognize one of the endings as canon. (Unless they go the weak way of having all endings end up the same, way into the future.) They can't really go backwards in time as we wouldn't have as many different species available for squadmates, so no first contact war, etc. Would definitely want either no open world or something way more condensed compared to Andromeda. It had a whole lot of nothing for the most part. That said, no stupid tasks without quest markers that can bug out and no rush job on the game itself. (i.e don't give your flagship franchise to the people who only made dlcs again.) We definitely need to shake it up squadmate wise, Andromeda was... kinda boring in that sense with only Jaal adding a bit of 'newness' to it. Speaking of squadmates, squad romances need to be even. Stop wasting resources on side flirts, everyone needs equal content. No sticking the gay companions on the ship again, and enough with the depraved bisexuals. (I love you Reyes, but come on, a romance delegated to one planet and then forgotten about till the end of the story is not satisfying.) Also no forcing us into an incredibly uncomfortable situation with a companion we can't get out of. No Peebee Zero G scene 2.0 pls. Stop catering to the dude bros who aren't happy with what they get anyway.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Nov 17, 2019 19:58:59 GMT
I would ask a gay turian companion, the m/m folk are the only ones who didnt test those sweet calibrations a bi quarian dude companion when? human butch lesbian Cora/Cass-like companion when? dont make more queer-coded women biohur! (Unless they go the weak way of having all endings end up the same, way into the future.) I wouldnt mind this, they indeed committed some kind of narrative suicide when they went for those three endings, green ending especially. I wouldnt mind some kind of retcon as long as is not big and noticeable if that let us to go back to the milky way galaxy!
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Post by mediocreogre on Nov 17, 2019 20:06:57 GMT
I’m at the point where the anger I had at PeeBee has evolved into thinking it is unintentionally the funniest satire of dudebro desires in video games. Never want to experience another PeeBee or Jill ever again, but it’s kind of funny in the, i cant’t believe it was this terrible and obvious way. But maybe it’s because I haven’t played MEA since April 2017 and maybe i’m Losing my mind as a defense mechanism.
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Post by farferello on Nov 17, 2019 20:20:16 GMT
I would ask a gay turian companion, the m/m folk are the only ones who didnt test those sweet calibrations a bi quarian dude companion when? human butch lesbian Cora/Cass-like companion when? dont make more queer-coded women biohur! (Unless they go the weak way of having all endings end up the same, way into the future.) I wouldnt mind this, they indeed committed some kind of narrative suicide when they went for those three endings, green ending especially. I wouldnt mind some kind of retcon as long as is not big and noticeable if that let us to go back to the milky way galaxy! Krogan romance when? (Srsly, when Bioware? when!) Quarian, Turian, all good choices that I also want because I'm greedy. How about a for a change, the first companion you get isn't straight! *Gasps.* But yeah to head back to the Milky Way some sort of light retcon or somehow all three coming full circle centuries into the future would be the only way without making people feel like they picked the wrong choice. Destroy all the way, I didn't work this hard to not kill all those fucks.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Nov 17, 2019 20:29:47 GMT
mediocreogre you remember well, Peebee was straight male fantasy and Jill aka the gayhag was there to remind us how gay men are less men because we cannot have children on our own. Everything was terribly insulting and infuriating. Krogan romance when? (Srsly, when Bioware? when!) How about a for a change, the first companion you get isn't straight! *Gasps.* How about a for a change, the first companion you get isn't straight! *Gasps.* This, but I doubt bioware gonna learn or evolve, they gotta pander the straights first.
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Post by dgcatanisiri on Nov 17, 2019 21:08:32 GMT
If the remaster is going forward, I don't want to hear another word about it unless it comes with a minimum of full trilogy bi Kaidan. On adding other romances, I lean more towards getting Garrus opened up than just restoring Thane's bisexuality, PURELY on the basis of avoiding the trope about dead gays, plus the fact that Garrus ends up being the second most plot major romance companion in ME3 (okay, also perverse delight in watching the heads of those aggressively 'my favs can only be straight, but I'm totally okay with the gays!' types explode). Though Thane as a bonus isn't a bad thing. Hell, if we're already pushing for major content changes, throw Jacob in too, provided that the whole "Brynn Cole" thing happening even when romanced gets thrown out and his romance gets a proper rekindling. Hope springs eternal and all. As for things in ME5... First of all, stay in Andromeda. I mean, I do appreciate the idea of games set in the Mass Effect universe back in the Milky Way, but I have the feeling that, rights and copyright and such being what they are, BioWare can't farm out their IPs to other smaller studios to have them tell "a story from the BiWare universe" or something, so we're stuck with what we have. So we've got to take the next step on the journey of the Andromeda Initiative. And I always thought Ryder would be a one-game protagonist. Between the practical difficulties of the trilogy and the Dragon Age model, I figured we'd only get the one game with them. So, yeah, jump forward in time - hell, considering things like the import features option, Ryder could even appear, say twenty, thirty years later, say that they've retired but they get to be like a mentor figure for the new protagonist. That'd be pretty nifty, while allowing to offer some kind of character resolution (maybe a cameo from their LI as well?). They DID release the novel about the quarian arc, which, I know no one really wanted that resolution to be outside of DLC, but it was working with the options they had available, so I'll work with it. Since it's now been close to three years since release, there's DEFINITELY no way we're going to get a sudden DLC drop of new content for that game, so I'm gonna just work with the assumption that now the quarians are there on the Nexus, and we get a bi quarian guy as a love interest. And there should be a lady angara for the F/F players. Though whoever, whatever the next game is a romance, it's got to be even distribution of LIs AND the gays can NOT be banished to the bowels of our ship again - companions or nothing. And, of course, they have to have plot importance because fuck that "can be ignored almost entirely" shit that Gil got, where, aside from going to him for the Archon's ship location, he is entirely absent from any and all plot developments and conversations. While I'm solid on alien LI's in a sci-fi setting, I am going to be adamant about at least one human LI for both genders. Just on the basis of hey, let's not lock this away to the aliens and frame non-heterosexuality as being "alien" and "other." Also, I'd LOVE to see an asari character in the vein of Lexi among the companions, in the sense that she is utterly uninterested in the PC. Not secretly pining for them (Liara), not blatantly flirting with them (Peebee), or offering that "in another life..." bullshit (Samara), but blatant in the 'nope, I'm not interested in you.' Ideally, I'd love to see an asexual asari, considering the sexualizing the asari go through in this franchise, and deconstruction of that whole idea, but I really don't trust BioWare to handle that with the delicacy it deserves. We do need to address the kett as enemies. I've been over my theory about them, and while I have no idea if BioWare will (because I've been way off base on theorizing future plot developments before), I'm particularly fond of it, though throwing it behind a spoiler tag given the major plot thing it throws in: The kett are descendants of prothean refugees, who initially meddled with their DNA, both inducing mutation and adding traits they appreciated from their subject races, to make themselves unpalatable to Reaper indoctrination and manipulation, fled the Milky Way, and their history warped and shifted over time to where by the time the settled in Andromeda, they saw themselves as always having been as such - maybe "kett" is like a corruption of a prothean word of like 'the last' or 'survivors' or even 'outcasts' and they now wear it as a species name as a badge of pride.
Kinda my favored idea because it makes it Milky Way races coming to Andromeda to clean up a mess created by the Milky Way, having connective tissue to the trilogy while not resurrecting the Reapers or anything. But dealing with the kett, uncovering more about the Jaardan, aiding the angara, establishing the future of the Initiative in Andromeda... All of these are major things that I could really see a lot more developing. Plus there's still the matter of the Benefactor - another reason for "Ryder as mentor" would be to see the follow up of these various threads that related to Ryder while still passing on to a new protagonist, this one in particular, WHY push for coming to Andromeda? It's already a cold case by the time Ryder shows up, so it taking a couple decades to resolve is not unreasonable. If absolutely nothing else, though, I want some more comics and novels, at least keep this franchise afloat in some manner - people are saying that Mass Effect is dead and such, while, at most, I'd call it dormant right now. Show some signs of life in the form of new content already!
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Nov 18, 2019 0:26:33 GMT
dgcatanisiri having human LIs for everyone is the safest bet for sure, because not everybody is into aliens sadly, vanilla people but I wonder how that could work because I cannot see Bioware doing bisexual human squadmembers forever in future games, and ME team never is going to put the straight in the hold. But yeah I resonate with you there. Garrus being bi (he has the I love you line recorded so is not crazy) would be super cool and it would totally tempted me to change my canon with Kaidan (I'M SORRY ) and I read tons of straight men that would romance him as dude Shep on the internet (even one of my real life straight friends said that to me lol) so... it's possible if they are willing to read some feedback. But at this point even bi Kaidan sounds difficult to achieve (and he has all the lines recorded) I'm just pessimistic about a remaster. Thane has lines recorded for ME2 and ME3 that's why I named him as second possible gay option. They could restore Ashley and Tali too. Damn even Jack since she is actual bisexual. But that is wishful thinking and I doubt Bioware would even bother with bi Kaidan, I still remember that letter when bi Jaal happened, it was like "we screwed things up so here it is bi Jaal but we will never do this again".
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Post by dgcatanisiri on Nov 18, 2019 0:31:37 GMT
Hey, heterosexuals are not allowed in space, and I don't know why BioWare doesn't seem to have gotten the memo, but it is our duty to do what we can to rectify this grievous error.
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Post by farferello on Nov 18, 2019 4:44:14 GMT
I don't know why Bioware ever felt the need to cut out the bisexuality of a lot of companions (actually I do, it's Bioware) but Jack, Miranda, Tali, Thane, Kaidan, to name just a few... Ugh. I remember their stupid 'Shepard can't be gay but here's femShep and Liara because Liara doesn't count as a woman' bullshit. I like Humans and I like romancing Aliens... They need to stop sticking the gay romances in the hold where the homophobes can ignore them. Start putting them in the squad, stop making all the Human companions straight. It's really not that difficult Bioware. They also needed to stop making bi/lesbian coded women and making them straight for woke points or whatever the fuck they're playing at when it comes to Cora and Cass. Also enough with the Miranda ass shots, the lingering sadness over turning down various Asari *screams at ME1 and ME2 bullshit* stop making my Shepard sound so regretful that I won't let him fuck some random Asari.
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Post by lilyena on Nov 18, 2019 4:58:29 GMT
I really hope the next ME stays in Andromeda with Ryder. One of the reasons I love the OT so much is that you get to move forward with Shep and their story and their companions and relationships. Seeing everyone and their relationships evolve. I love that. Ryder was ok. A bit like vanilla pudding, kinda bland. I'd like to see them grow though. Also Jaal. Then again, I'm still really peeved about several of the other romances (Suvi, Gil, Reyes) that just weren't well done and they aren't comps and I really don't see how they'd fix that in the next game. So I don't know. Clean slate in Andromeda maybe? Like we'll be the second generation of pathfinders out and about or something. That would give plenty of set-up time for things. But then no Jaal. But maybe a female Angara? Also a male Quarian. Female drell. I am not greedy. As far as a remaster goes, I don't really care either way. I just don't know that they have any resources for something like that. I'd rather get new games I guess.
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Post by Lee on Nov 18, 2019 5:05:58 GMT
Andromeda 2 with nothing but Jaal and Ryder romance content works best for me. But baring that I guess it really would be best to have Andromeda's story continued with a new protag. There really are a lot of issues with continuing on with Ryder-the main being there are just far too many romances to deal with in a sequel. Also, the thought of more Peebee makes my skin crawl. Spoilered cause it's just Shade...all tea though.
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Post by dgcatanisiri on Nov 18, 2019 6:41:28 GMT
Like I said, I think moving Ryder to a mentorship of a new protagonist would actually work. Like, I had my issues with Hawke in Inquisition, but in this case, I don’t feel it would be quite the same - in jumping forward a few decades, it’s not quite the same Ryder we left behind. That way there’s be a practical handoff between the two protagonists.
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Post by Lee on Nov 18, 2019 8:17:18 GMT
Like I said, I think moving Ryder to a mentorship of a new protagonist would actually work. Like, I had my issues with Hawke in Inquisition, but in this case, I don’t feel it would be quite the same - in jumping forward a few decades, it’s not quite the same Ryder we left behind. That way there’s be a practical handoff between the two protagonists. No thanks. Knowing the way BioWare write, our Ryder's will all be obsessed with how hot asari are no matter who we romanced. If we aren't in direct control -it's best to leave them out.
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Post by farferello on Nov 18, 2019 11:11:24 GMT
Like I said, I think moving Ryder to a mentorship of a new protagonist would actually work. Like, I had my issues with Hawke in Inquisition, but in this case, I don’t feel it would be quite the same - in jumping forward a few decades, it’s not quite the same Ryder we left behind. That way there’s be a practical handoff between the two protagonists. No thanks. Knowing the way BioWare write our Ryder's will all be obsessed with how hot asari are no matter who we romanced. If we aren't in direct control -it's best to leave them out. Seriously. We all saw what they did with Hawke in DAI and how grossly out of character he/she was. (Yes hello, my blood mage Hawke with Warden Carver, totally married to a former?(ex?in hiding?idk how you'd describe Anders Warden status right now) Warden would totally hate both of those things. ) Unless we can control them I don't want to see them, I'd rather Bioware not ruin yet another character we've played.
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