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Post by Beefy Titans on Sept 1, 2017 9:16:39 GMT
I start another FO4 run again. I really love Vivid Weather mod. oh that looks so devastatingly beautiful Indeed. To anyone who's playing or plans to play FO4 on PC, I really recommended Vivid Weathers mod. It improves so much graphic of the game.
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Post by Ark on Sept 1, 2017 9:21:59 GMT
Speaking of FO4 Mods, anyone actually try the "Creators Club"?
Seems like they're charging money for mods that aren't anything near the quality the community has been diligently crafting for free.
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Post by Sir Drell on Sept 1, 2017 9:27:40 GMT
Speaking of FO4 Mods, anyone actually try the "Creators Club"? Seems like they're charging money for mods that aren't anything near the quality the community has been diligently crafting for free. They're paids mods and microtransactions. No tolerance, destroy them. Hopefully Skyrim and FO4 continue to get review bombed, get the message Bethesda, disgusting behaviour. Not you too Bethesda.
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Post by Beefy Titans on Sept 1, 2017 9:28:32 GMT
Speaking of FO4 Mods, anyone actually try the "Creators Club"? Seems like they're charging money for mods that aren't anything near the quality the community has been diligently crafting for free. Nope. But Creation Club has already negatively affected my game without me using it lol. It broke F4SE (thankfully the modders fixed that quickly). The CC patch also added useless 650 Mb of data into my ssd, even though I do not plan to use it. So yeah, fuck Creation Club!
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Post by dino on Sept 1, 2017 9:35:03 GMT
I thought they wanna work with popular modders? Didn't look at the mods yet.
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Post by Sir Drell on Sept 1, 2017 9:40:46 GMT
I thought they wanna work with popular modders? Didn't look at the mods yet. A few skins and stuff, nothing special. Oh, and hellfire armour, except there's already a FREE hellfire armour mod that actually looks better than the paid mod. I thought they got the message when everyone told them to stop when they announced it. So disappointing to see Bethesda do something like this. What did i expect though? All these companies are the same.
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Post by dino on Sept 1, 2017 10:04:24 GMT
I thought they wanna work with popular modders? Didn't look at the mods yet. A few skins and stuff, nothing special. Oh, and hellfire armour, except there's already a FREE hellfire armour mod that actually looks better than the paid mod. I thought they got the message when everyone told them to stop when they announced it. So disappointing to see Bethesda do something like this. What did i expect though? All these companies are the same. Funfact: I read a german articel where they said that so many fans are soooooo excited for this. :'D
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Post by Lee on Sept 2, 2017 10:03:34 GMT
It's probably going to be a bust, but there's still a small chance that some decent content will make it's way to Creation club which will be great for ps4 players that can't get mods with scripts or new animation/sounds/etc. Wish Sony would just get over the fear of mods though.
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Post by dino on Sept 9, 2017 20:01:21 GMT
Just learned that the companion will end up naked, if you equip them the dog collar. At first I was like 'lol! He can wear it! ' and...yeah..... he... wears it. On his arm. ...............oops. But I don't complain. At least I learned something.. useful.
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Post by phantomrachie on Sept 11, 2017 8:52:03 GMT
My two cents on creation club. I like the idea of publishers working with modders to make sure that all the mods available work with the game & don't cause errors. I mean modders already fix Bethesda's games after launch so Bethesda may as well work with them to help them fix it. I don't even mind throwing some money their way so that modders can actually get paid for fixing Bethesda's games. And this stability might make Sony more comfortable allowing mods on the PS4.
My issue is how paid mods are inevitably implemented, like in this case it is a bunch of skins & armour most of which look worse than their free equivalent and you have to pay for them with a special currency so it's harder to keep track of how much you are spending. The price points are all over the place too, some mods seem to cost over $5 (if I've done the conversion correctly) and your free 100 credits (which isn't enough to buy much) is actually shared between Skyrim & Fallout 4 (except on PSN) Plus it is impossible to find out how much Bethesda are even paying the modders who contribute.
This seems like the worst way to do this.
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Post by Lee on Sept 11, 2017 9:09:53 GMT
Yeah. the whole system is very wonky. I hate having to pay for virtual credits. I'd rather actually buy a bundle of the kind of content I like. oh well...probably won't buy anything anyway-unless they have some pretty good content (like fixing the unfinished Danse content where he can rejoin the brotherhood and you can replace senior nice Jacket)
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Post by phantomrachie on Sept 11, 2017 10:21:28 GMT
Yeah. the whole system is very wonky. I hate having to pay for virtual credits. I'd rather actually buy a bundle of the kind of content I like. oh well...probably won't buy anything anyway-unless they have some pretty good content (like fixing the unfinished Danse content where he can rejoin the brotherhood and you can replace senior nice Jacket) Then there is the whole problem that the price points never match the virtual credits so you always have a handful of credits leftover that you can't use, like with microsoft points back in the day. At the moment the minimum credit purchase in creation club is 750 credits, so even if only want 1 item that doesn't cost that much, you still have to fork over $7.50 and be left with credits you can't use. Bundling mods together sounds like a good idea, they could be themed armour or weapon packs or mods that just work well together. It would help new users who are unsure of what mods to download and make the prices worth it. I mean at the moment $5 (500 credits) gets you the Creation Club Hellfire Power Armor (which looks worse than the free version), which is far too much for one piece of armour, not even EA expects you to pay that much for weapon packs or alternative outfits (at least not for Mass Effect & Dragon Age), whereas if $5 looks more reasonable if it was for a pack of Power Armour that contained a number of different mods that changed or improved the armour. Edit: And that is $5 for somthing Bethesda didn't even make, the work was already done by someone else.
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Post by Lee on Sept 11, 2017 10:29:46 GMT
Yeah. the whole system is very wonky. I hate having to pay for virtual credits. I'd rather actually buy a bundle of the kind of content I like. oh well...probably won't buy anything anyway-unless they have some pretty good content (like fixing the unfinished Danse content where he can rejoin the brotherhood and you can replace senior nice Jacket) Then there is the whole problem that the price points never match the virtual credits so you always have a handful of credits leftover that you can't use, like with microsoft points back in the day. At the moment the minimum credit purchase in creation club is 750 credits, so even if only want 1 item that doesn't cost that much, you still have to fork over $7.50 and be left with credits you can't use. Bundling mods together sounds like a good idea, they could be themed armour or weapon packs or mods that just work well together. It would help new users who are unsure of what mods to download and make the prices worth it. I mean at the moment $5 (500 credits) gets you the Creation Club Hellfire Power Armor (which looks worse than the free version), which is far too much for one piece of armour, not even EA expects you to pay that much for weapon packs or alternative outfits (at least not for Mass Effect & Dragon Age), whereas if $5 looks more reasonable if it was for a pack of Power Armour that contained a number of different mods that changed or improved the armour. Edit: And that is $5 for somthing Bethesda didn't even make, the work was already done by someone else. The store needs work too. It doesn't have stats for the guns or the armor, or any real details on what is included in things like the modern furniture set. It's all so half assed at the moment.
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Post by phantomrachie on Sept 11, 2017 10:33:34 GMT
The store needs work too. It doesn't have stats for the guns or the armor, or any real details on what is included in things like the modern furniture set. It's all so half assed at the moment. Bethesda: Pay $5 for a mod that you don't know what it does or what it comes with. Come on you know you want too. Me:
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Post by Lee on Sept 11, 2017 10:35:56 GMT
The store needs work too. It doesn't have stats for the guns or the armor, or any real details on what is included in things like the modern furniture set. It's all so half assed at the moment. Bethesda: Pay $5 for a mod that you don't know what it does or what it comes with. Come on you know you want too. Me: There are free mods up for changing the Chinese stealth suit. so strange...you have to buy it in store, then mod it to make it good. so much work! lol! but I guess it's good that the new stuff can be modded in a way, but eh...it may make finding mods a bit tricker. gotta read to make sure nothing I want to use relies on creation content. v.v
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Post by phantomrachie on Sept 11, 2017 10:39:38 GMT
Bethesda: Pay $5 for a mod that you don't know what it does or what it comes with. Come on you know you want too. Me: There are free mods up for changing the Chinese stealth suit. so strange...you have to buy it in store, then mod it to make it good. so much work! lol! but I guess it's good that the new stuff can be modded in a way, but eh...it may make finding mods a bit tricker. gotta read to make sure nothing I want to use relies on creation content. v.v Are you kidding me? That would be hilarious if it weren't so sad. So not only do modders need to fix Bethesda's base games with bug fixes and enhancements but now they have to fix the official mods. What a shite show.
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Post by Lee on Sept 11, 2017 10:43:22 GMT
I found a stealth ring that does the same thing, and it's free. who needs a stealth suit anyway.
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Post by Beefy Titans on Sept 14, 2017 7:34:22 GMT
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Post by Ark on Sept 15, 2017 11:53:11 GMT
How Sweet of Bethesda. Currently 2 items on Creation Club are free to download... Trying to earn some goodwill, by letting us download mods for free... HOW DO THEY NOT SEE WHY THIS DOESN'T WORK!?
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Post by Sir Drell on Sept 15, 2017 14:55:59 GMT
How Sweet of Bethesda. Currently 2 items on Creation Club are free to download... Trying to earn some goodwill, by letting us download mods for free... HOW DO THEY NOT SEE WHY THIS DOESN'T WORK!?
Their responses to the criticism are clear. They have no intention of, you know, cutting this shit out, sooooo screw em.
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