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Post by pessimistpanda on Jun 3, 2017 11:30:21 GMT
It doesn't matter what is in the Witcher BOOKS, because we're talking about CDPR, and how they handled the games.
Remember that CDPR is a Polish studio, and their civil rights record ain't exactly spotless. As recently as 2013, a poll found that an overwhelming majority of polish people oppose same-sex marriage and adoption, and a lesser majority oppose public displays of affection between same-sex couples, and consider the lifestyle "unnatural".
The best we are likely to see from them, if anything, is similar content to the Witcher 3. A minor character with a tragic backstory who we never see again.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jun 3, 2017 11:31:31 GMT
I...honestly think you're being unfair toward CDPR saying they are dudebro company. Yeah, sure, The Witcher seems like a dudebro dream games, but they are so much more. And they are written and made to be sequels to book saga (that was started in 1992) that just happens to have straight male protagonist. They are not just about Geralt, but also how horrible humans can be, about political intrigue and about pure awesomeness that is Ciri (who was totally interested in another girl in one of the books ) And maybe I'm just blind to The Witcher game series faults because I love the books. Also why I say wait for Cyberpunk. If Cyberpunk 2077 shows the same dudebro tendencies The Witcher did, I will be right there with you saying CDPR is indeed company of dudebros for dudebros. Well, I'm right with you. Even tho Geralt annoyed me more than once in the books, I still love the Witcher games. They have so much more to offer if people could put aside their prejudice and give it a chance. Yes, you can play as dudebro who fucks lots of women, but only if YOU choose to do so. In my games, Geralt was always faithful to his LI, never slept with anyone else, because I didn't want to. And game didn't force me into anything. Lol, excuse me if I don't cheer about having the option to NOT fuck women.
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Post by Ashii6 on Jun 3, 2017 11:51:21 GMT
Well, I'm right with you. Even tho Geralt annoyed me more than once in the books, I still love the Witcher games. They have so much more to offer if people could put aside their prejudice and give it a chance. Yes, you can play as dudebro who fucks lots of women, but only if YOU choose to do so. In my games, Geralt was always faithful to his LI, never slept with anyone else, because I didn't want to. And game didn't force me into anything. Lol, excuse me if I don't cheer about having the option to NOT fuck women. That's not what I meant. Some people think game literally pushes you into it or you're forced to do it, while it's not true. Geralt was written that way, the whole universe was created in early 90's, so it was a long time ago. In Poland homosexuality during these years was a taboo topic and when mentioned, a controversy or any shit like that. CDPR couldn't just suddenly change Geralt's gender and his sexual orientation, that would be ridiculous. Do you really think I'm happy by playing yet another hetero dude that sleeps with women? No. I'd rather to play as a woman, Ciri no less. But Geralt was always the main characters in the books, so unfortunately, it was a logical choice for CDPR to create games about HIM. I also live in Poland, you can post statistics, but it's not as bad as you described in your previous post. People that oppose same sex marriages, same sex couples or anything like that are mostly old bigots. We're not so proggressive, sadly, as other Countries, but we're trying. After WWII we struggled for a long time and we still do. Now we have the most fucked up party that is in control atm and is ruining our Country even more. We have some extremists, racists, homophobes, but every Country got those. But really, don't throw CDPR into the bag with those people.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jun 3, 2017 11:56:13 GMT
Lol, excuse me if I don't cheer about having the option to NOT fuck women. That's not what I meant. Some people think game literally pushes you into it or you're forced to do it, while it's not true. Geralt was written that way, the whole universe was created in early 90's, so it was a long time ago. In Poland homosexuality during these years was a taboo topic and when mentioned, a controversy or any shit like that. CDPR couldn't just suddenly change Geralt's gender and his sexual orientation, that would be ridiculous. Do you really think I'm happy by playing yet another hetero dude that sleeps with women? No. I'd rather to play as a woman, Ciri no less. But Geralt was always the main characters in the books, so unfortunately, it was a logical choice for CDPR to create games about HIM. I also live in Poland, you can post statistics, but it's not as bad as you described in your previous post. People that oppose same sex marriages, same sex couples or anything like that are mostly old bigots. We're not so proggressive, sadly, as other Countries, but we're trying. After WWII we struggled for a long time and we still do. Now we have the most fucked up party that is in control atm and is ruining our Country even more. We have some extremists, racists, homophobes, but every Country got those. But really, don't throw CDPR into the bag with those people. Well, I'm not going to judge you for having a shitty government. I don't think many of us are proud about the way our respective countries are being run right now. I'll count myself lucky if we just get out of the current international shitstorm without starting a third world war. Luckily, the internet is an invaluable tool for helping us all understand each other. It's too bad so many people abuse it. For what it's worth, I do own Witcher 3, and I have liked a fair amount of what I played so far. My favourite thing in the game is Gwent, though. I'm gonna start the game over just so I can get the Dandelion card, lol.
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Post by Ashii6 on Jun 3, 2017 12:02:16 GMT
That's not what I meant. Some people think game literally pushes you into it or you're forced to do it, while it's not true. Geralt was written that way, the whole universe was created in early 90's, so it was a long time ago. In Poland homosexuality during these years was a taboo topic and when mentioned, a controversy or any shit like that. CDPR couldn't just suddenly change Geralt's gender and his sexual orientation, that would be ridiculous. Do you really think I'm happy by playing yet another hetero dude that sleeps with women? No. I'd rather to play as a woman, Ciri no less. But Geralt was always the main characters in the books, so unfortunately, it was a logical choice for CDPR to create games about HIM. I also live in Poland, you can post statistics, but it's not as bad as you described in your previous post. People that oppose same sex marriages, same sex couples or anything like that are mostly old bigots. We're not so proggressive, sadly, as other Countries, but we're trying. After WWII we struggled for a long time and we still do. Now we have the most fucked up party that is in control atm and is ruining our Country even more. We have some extremists, racists, homophobes, but every Country got those. But really, don't throw CDPR into the bag with those people. Well, I'm not going to judge you for having a shitty government. I don't think many of us are proud about the way our respective countries are being run right now. I'll count myself lucky if we just get out of the current international shitstorm without starting a third world war. Luckily, the internet is an invaluable tool for helping us all understand each other. It's too bad so many people abuse it. For what it's worth, I do own Witcher 3, and I have liked a fair amount of what I played so far. My favourite thing in the game is Gwent, though. I'm gonna start the game over just so I can get the Dandelion card, lol. It's okay. I just wanted to explain some things. While I really dislike Geralt in a fair amount of situations ( in books even more ), I did enjoy Witcher. Aside from his character, W3 had some amazing storylines there. Like the Bloody Baron and my favourite was with Ladies of the Woods. And side quests were done really well.
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Post by phantomrachie on Jun 3, 2017 19:28:28 GMT
I almost always play as a mage, regardless race, and also in ME series I like to play as Adept/Vanguard the most Adept powers seem a little unimpressive in ME:A The lack of Warp (or reave) seemed to have killed my interest in a pure adept. Sentinel is fun though! Gotta say I disagree here. MEA was some of the most fun I had with a pure adept loadout. The pull & throw combo was some of the most fun I've had in an ME game combat wise. Lance is a nice substitute for warp and backlash works much better than it did in ME3.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Jun 3, 2017 23:46:59 GMT
It doesn't matter what is in the Witcher BOOKS, because we're talking about CDPR, and how they handled the games. Remember that CDPR is a Polish studio, and their civil rights record ain't exactly spotless. As recently as 2013, a poll found that an overwhelming majority of polish people oppose same-sex marriage and adoption, and a lesser majority oppose public displays of affection between same-sex couples, and consider the lifestyle "unnatural". The best we are likely to see from them, if anything, is similar content to the Witcher 3. A minor character with a tragic backstory who we never see again. Basically this. And it's extremely generous to say "Oh because I like them I don't think they're dudebro." I'm not saying you shouldn't like the Witcher games or w/e; just be more self-aware. Being able to fuck, flirt, etc with various barbie-doll-looking women as a grizzled straight dude isn't out of some genuine spark of genius. It's out of them catering to a certain demographic, which are mostly made up of dudebros. I'm not saying pandering or catering is bad, just that they're very aware of who their target demographic is. Give them a pass on it or not, but personally I hope Cyberpunk 2077, if just as dudebro, ends up a terrible game. If only to show that "dudebro pandering" games can be just as shit as what they call "SJW pandering" games.
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Post by Lee on Jun 4, 2017 4:35:54 GMT
Just got through watching the Gil romance on youtube (having the baby style) fuck that was depressing. I don't think BioWare will ever really understand why that version of the romance is so horrific to me.
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Post by obiwancomeblowme on Jun 4, 2017 22:27:29 GMT
Just got through watching the Gil romance on youtube (having the baby style) fuck that was depressing. I don't think BioWare will ever really understand why that version of the romance is so horrific to me. They honestly don't understand. It is infuriating. All we can do is send buckets of salt to the Montreal studio.
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Post by Lee on Jun 5, 2017 7:45:03 GMT
Just got through watching the Gil romance on youtube (having the baby style) fuck that was depressing. I don't think BioWare will ever really understand why that version of the romance is so horrific to me. They honestly don't understand. It is infuriating. All we can do is send buckets of salt to the Montreal studio. Buckets of piss would work. There's salt in urine.
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Post by obiwancomeblowme on Jun 5, 2017 19:14:12 GMT
They honestly don't understand. It is infuriating. All we can do is send buckets of salt to the Montreal studio. Buckets of piss would work. There's salt in urine. There are probably some devs that like golden showers.
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Post by Lee on Jun 5, 2017 20:26:52 GMT
Buckets of piss would work. There's salt in urine. There are probably some devs that like golden showers. After the past few days I'm happy to piss on Mike Gamble personally. Though it's better if he doesn't enjoy it mind you, but I won't kink shame him.
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Post by obiwancomeblowme on Jun 5, 2017 21:51:56 GMT
There are probably some devs that like golden showers. After the past few days I'm happy to piss on Mike Gamble personally. Though it's better if he doesn't enjoy it mind you, but I won't kink shame him. Ugh, if we kink shame him, we will be known as the whiney gays that kink shamed a Dev.
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Post by Lee on Jun 5, 2017 21:56:42 GMT
After the past few days I'm happy to piss on Mike Gamble personally. Though it's better if he doesn't enjoy it mind you, but I won't kink shame him. Ugh, if we kink shame him, we will be known as the whiney gays that kink shamed a Dev. "you gays are always biting the hand that feeds you!" Still hungry over here. I can't make a feast on scraps. Sorry!
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Post by obiwancomeblowme on Jun 5, 2017 22:10:41 GMT
Ugh, if we kink shame him, we will be known as the whiney gays that kink shamed a Dev. "you gays are always biting the hand that feeds you!" Still hungry over here. I can't make a feast on scraps. Sorry! When this patch goes live and if it isn't great stuff, the devs will probably delete their Twitters after and it'll be the gays' fault.
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Post by Lee on Jun 5, 2017 22:13:59 GMT
"you gays are always biting the hand that feeds you!" Still hungry over here. I can't make a feast on scraps. Sorry! When this patch goes live and if it isn't great stuff, the devs will probably delete their Twitters after and it'll be the gays' fault. Some of them honestly should given how much worse they are making things look for them. Especially if Jaal doesn't get bi patched.
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Post by gimolas on Jun 5, 2017 22:32:46 GMT
"you gays are always biting the hand that feeds you!" Still hungry over here. I can't make a feast on scraps. Sorry! When this patch goes live and if it isn't great stuff, the devs will probably delete their Twitters after and it'll be the gays' fault. But we can't take the gay representation thing 2 FAR as if LGBT rep has ever been taken too far in the history of the world ever
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 23:02:03 GMT
When this patch goes live and if it isn't great stuff, the devs will probably delete their Twitters after and it'll be the gays' fault. But we can't take the gay representation thing 2 FAR as if LGBT rep has ever been taken too far in the history of the world ever Um haven't you read the YouTube / reddit / Facebook comments? ME:A is already a SJW libtard fest; it's clearly already too gay.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Jun 6, 2017 1:25:09 GMT
I have to say I wonder exactly what they even could implement at this stage besides bi Jaal or the extra emails route.
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Post by obiwancomeblowme on Jun 6, 2017 1:55:51 GMT
I have to say I wonder exactly what they even could implement at this stage besides bi Jaal or the extra emails route. It is a mystery. Posh up Reyes' dance, throw in the nude toss with Gil, send some emails, and call it "happy with the specifics." The Gil fans will go wild for ass.
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