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Post by Sir Drell on Jul 31, 2017 22:07:59 GMT
Nowhere near as good as Cersei. Personally for me, Cersei is the best villain the show has had. But...yeah he is awesome. Savage in one scene, but regal in another, but still savage underneath. I was trying to decide last night, how i would feel if Cersei not only won, but actually turned out to be a good ruler despite being a monster to everyone around her...
I mean Dany wants to "break the wheel" of the noble houses of Westeros, but i'd say Cersei is beating her to the punch. And she's apparently paying off the iron bank in the next few episodes...
Maybe what Jamie said to Olenna was meant to give us a hint, history will remember the kingdom she builds, not how she built it.
Don't get me wrong, I still personally want Jamie to stab the Mad Queen in the back, but I can't ignore that the show may be heading in this direction. She's already a better ruler than the last three kings combined. Crushing rebellions (bye bye house Tyrell), acquiring a strong fleet (Euron), uniting the kingdom the best she can (house Tarly and other lords), and delivering justice (sandsnakes).
She is most definitely a match for Dany, probably better actually, she's been watching Kings for years, learning from their mistakes and learning from her father who was a strategic genius.
Basically, she's awesome.
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Post by Crimson on Jul 31, 2017 22:13:45 GMT
Euron's awesome as always Nowhere near as good as Cersei. Personally for me, Cersei is the best villain the show has had. But...yeah he is awesome. Savage in one scene, but regal in another, but still savage underneath. Cersei is the MVP of villains, love that bitch. Euron is... alright, I guess. Show needs more Lyanna Mormont scenes.
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Post by Sir Drell on Jul 31, 2017 22:18:13 GMT
Nowhere near as good as Cersei. Personally for me, Cersei is the best villain the show has had. But...yeah he is awesome. Savage in one scene, but regal in another, but still savage underneath. Cersei is the MVP of villains, love that bitch. Euron is... alright, I guess. Show needs more Lyanna Mormont scenes. After watching her for the whole show, from the start, and after her transformation in season 5/6, I love that bitch. She is the most understandable villian in the show, you can she why she does the things she does.
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Post by Crimson on Jul 31, 2017 22:23:15 GMT
Cersei is the MVP of villains, love that bitch. Euron is... alright, I guess. Show needs more Lyanna Mormont scenes. After watching her for the whole show, from the start, and after her transformation in season 5/6, I love that bitch. She is the most understandable villian in the show, you can she why she does the things she does.
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Post by Sir Drell on Jul 31, 2017 22:28:06 GMT
After watching her for the whole show, from the start, and after her transformation in season 5/6, I love that bitch. She is the most understandable villian in the show, you can she why she does the things she does. Hell yeah. But will it last though? Because everyone just loves Dany...
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Post by Ark on Jul 31, 2017 22:44:27 GMT
Hell yeah. But will it last though? Because everyone just loves Dany... Their love only fuels GRRM's hunger for blood... Or kills his desire to write anything... It's certainly one or the other.
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Post by Suaimhneas on Jul 31, 2017 22:45:19 GMT
I find it hard to consider Cersei a threat considering... Her army is getting decimated next episode. Plus she loses the gold from Highgarden making her unable to pay the Iron Bank. Considering her actions at the end of the season is obvious the Valonqar's grip is getting closer and closer.
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Post by Sir Drell on Jul 31, 2017 22:47:53 GMT
Hell yeah. But will it last though? Because everyone just loves Dany... Their love only fuels GRRM's hunger for blood... Or kills his desire to write anything... It's certainly one or the other. Maybe Jon and Dany give their lives to defeat the whitewalkers and Cersei actually does end up ruling? I need red wedding level twists! Like, one after the other, stop my heart completely.
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Post by Crimson on Jul 31, 2017 23:19:42 GMT
Hell yeah. But will it last though? Because everyone just loves Dany... Their love only fuels GRRM's hunger for blood... Or kills his desire to write anything... It's certainly one or the other.
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Post by turianlannister on Jul 31, 2017 23:25:57 GMT
How many direwolves do you think there are in Westeros? XDDDDD Also, Arya has wolf dreams, I dont remember if this happens in the show though, my memory is fuzzy, but she shares a link with Nymeria I liked what I saw about this season, even if I wont like Yara's fate and I'll cry a lot... god I hope she survives, plz Furry gods I don't know. There could be a number of direwolves. Not a large number, but it seems unreasonable to assume that while the Starks were out for a family stroll through the woods one day, they happened to come across the only living direwolves in all of Westeros. Well, unless direwolves are asexual there's a daddy direwolf out there somewhere That scene in the episode, I thought 'oh there's more yellow scabs under the greyscale and then the knife went through it and I was 'holy shit' before realising it was someone eating a pie. Also, considering that direwolves and dragons have made appearances, what are the chances that we'll get to see a Kraken at some point? And it doesn't give two fucks that House Greyjoy as a kraken as it's sigal and proceeds to eat Euron's ship A wight kraken would be amazing. Can ice dragons appear already? GRRM wrote a novel called 'The Ice Dragon', if it's set in the GOT universe it's in another part of the world from Westeros Well then. That was definitely an improvement over the last episode, IMO. Here are my thoughts in no particular order.
Ellaria's last scene was well done; I knew it wasn't going to end well for her, but not knowing exactly what was going to happen put me on edge. I was fully expecting another skull crushing, but what we got was arguably more brutal.
Maybe I'm misinterpreting this, but Jon and Dany's fighting felt a bit...tiring, like it was drama for the sake of drama. It was clear that Dany wanted Jon to bend the knee, but I couldn't figure out exactly what Jon was trying to get out of the conversation.
I'm happy to see that Sam wasn't expelled. I legitimately laughed out loud when he got assigned to copy the decaying books and writings instead of getting rewarded beyond not being expelled; if this was a Harry Potter book, he probably would've won the house cup. I also kinda want to make a gif of the "I read the books and followed the instructions" line - it reminds me of fixing a computer problem for someone who could've easily solved it themselves if they read the manual or went to Google.
It's nice to see Sansa sassing Littlefinger this season. The reunion with Bran was also heartwarming, though I can't imagine Bran taking it well when he finds out that Rickon died.
Seeing Olenna leave is a shame, though her final confession was a nice departing "screw you." At least she's with her family again... Might Bran already know what happened to Rickon? I mean he saw Sansa's wedding night
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Post by Crimson on Jul 31, 2017 23:46:30 GMT
Also, is it just me or does anyone care about the Greyworm x Missandei tacked on love story? Couldn't be more meh about this if I tried.
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Post by Sir Drell on Jul 31, 2017 23:53:32 GMT
Also, is it just me or does anyone care about the Greyworm x Melisandre tacked on love story? Couldn't be more meh about this if I tried. Yeah it's pretty meh, and during the scene all I could think was "ummm, valuable screen time being used up, we don't have that many episodes to work with..."
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Post by Vy on Jul 31, 2017 23:57:44 GMT
Also, is it just me or does anyone care about the Greyworm x Missandei tacked on love story? Couldn't be more meh about this if I tried. I didn't necessarily mind it as a minor subplot, but I definitely thought their scene went on for too long, especially given how little time the series has left. I alt tabbed and waited for the music to change.
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Post by Crimson on Jul 31, 2017 23:58:40 GMT
Also, is it just me or does anyone care about the Greyworm x Melisandre tacked on love story? Couldn't be more meh about this if I tried. Yeah it's pretty meh, and during the scene all I could think was "ummm, valuable screen time being used up, we don't have that many episodes to work with..."
Gotta squeeze in a titty scene tho, cos plot or something.
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Post by Sir Drell on Aug 1, 2017 0:03:57 GMT
Also, is it just me or does anyone care about the Greyworm x Missandei tacked on love story? Couldn't be more meh about this if I tried. I didn't necessarily mind it as a minor subplot, but I definitely thought their scene went on for too long, especially given how little time the series has left. I alt tabbed and waited for the music to change. So the straight sex scene played out in full and was allowed to drag on, but the lesbian one was conveniently cut short. At the very moment they decided to get it on Euron attacks, at sea, the massive sea.
Hmmmmmm...
And will we see any gay stuff? Are there any surviving gay characters?
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Post by Ark on Aug 1, 2017 0:33:26 GMT
I didn't necessarily mind it as a minor subplot, but I definitely thought their scene went on for too long, especially given how little time the series has left. I alt tabbed and waited for the music to change. So the straight sex scene played out in full and was allowed to drag on, but the lesbian one was conveniently cut short. At the very moment they decided to get it on Euron attacks, at sea, the massive sea.
Hmmmmmm...
And will we see any gay stuff? Are there any surviving gay characters?
I think Yara is the last one still alive, and the writers don't have much more interest in her i don't think. Somehow they are still pushing Theon on us...
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Post by Sir Drell on Aug 1, 2017 0:37:06 GMT
So the straight sex scene played out in full and was allowed to drag on, but the lesbian one was conveniently cut short. At the very moment they decided to get it on Euron attacks, at sea, the massive sea.
Hmmmmmm...
And will we see any gay stuff? Are there any surviving gay characters?
I think Yara is the last one still alive, and the writers don't have much more interest in her i don't think. Somehow they are still pushing Theon on us... No, I mean gay male characters. Like, not even one? That's weak.
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Post by Crimson on Aug 1, 2017 0:40:04 GMT
So the straight sex scene played out in full and was allowed to drag on, but the lesbian one was conveniently cut short. At the very moment they decided to get it on Euron attacks, at sea, the massive sea.
Hmmmmmm...
And will we see any gay stuff? Are there any surviving gay characters?
I think Yara is the last one still alive, and the writers don't have much more interest in her i don't think. Somehow they are still pushing Theon on us... Blasted coward.
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Post by Suaimhneas on Aug 1, 2017 1:15:33 GMT
I appreciate Grey Worm and Missandei screen time as they're pretty much the only PoC rep on the show now.
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Post by Vy on Aug 1, 2017 1:17:18 GMT
I think Yara is the last one still alive, and the writers don't have much more interest in her i don't think. Somehow they are still pushing Theon on us... Blasted coward. "You wouldn't be here if you tried" was the perfect response.
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