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Post by * on Mar 8, 2019 21:32:51 GMT
Anyone see captain marvel yet? Gonna watch it tomorrow. Gonna see it with my family sometime next week. I hope it's good in spite of all the controversy XD It's a giant ad for my military branch of choice so I'll like it even if it's bad lol. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 22:13:33 GMT
Gonna see it with my family sometime next week. I hope it's good in spite of all the controversy XD It's a giant ad for my military branch of choice so I'll like it even if it's bad lol. I didn't know you were into the military! I have nothing but respect for the people who serve this country. I wish war could be avoided, but things can't always go peacefully and it's really brave to be apart of the force keeping everybody safe. The air force and the Navy Seals both seem like really cool branches to me. I don't know much about Captain Marvel as a character, except that she has cool hair XD |
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Post by * on Mar 8, 2019 22:16:22 GMT
It's a giant ad for my military branch of choice so I'll like it even if it's bad lol. I didn't know you were into the military! I have nothing but respect for the people who serve this country. I wish war could be avoided, but things can't always go peacefully and it's really brave to be apart of the force keeping everybody safe. The air force and the Navy Seals both seem like really cool branches to me. I don't know much about Captain Marvel as a character, except that she has cool hair XD Thanks! Yea captain marvel goes to space and has aliens, that's generally all I really need lol. |
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Mar 8, 2019 23:58:47 GMT
^^^OK, so I was able to watch it. I HATED the ending. HATED it.
EDIT: Because that movie was so depressing I had to go watch something to make me feel better. It's my favorite gay movie since Beautiful Thing, and that came out in 1996.
I'm straight and I loved it when we saw it at the cinema! Also, though I live in a city, it's set in countryside that I know well. The title "Gods Own Country" (or sometimes "God's Own County") is often used to refer to my home county of Yorkshire, where the film is set.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 5:01:16 GMT
^^^OK, so I was able to watch it. I HATED the ending. HATED it.
EDIT: Because that movie was so depressing I had to go watch something to make me feel better. It's my favorite gay movie since Beautiful Thing, and that came out in 1996.
whaat? i though it had a happy ending? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 5:01:31 GMT
Anyone see captain marvel yet? Gonna watch it tomorrow. Gonna see it with my family sometime next week. I hope it's good in spite of all the controversy XD what controversy?? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 13:59:52 GMT
Gonna see it with my family sometime next week. I hope it's good in spite of all the controversy XD what controversy?? Brie Larson, the actress who plays Captain Marvel, made a few comments that ticked off a lot of people. The one I heard the most about was that she said she wants less white men to be reviewers of the movie. A lot of people pointed out that was racist. Like, replace the word white with literally any other race and then it becomes horrible XD Just pick good reviewers, race shouldn't matter. I'm biracial, in a primarily black family, and I wouldn't want to be picked just because of my skin. I want to get picked because I'm good at what I do. There were people who had genuinely real issues with her statements, but when you deal with politics, there's always trolls abound. The movie started getting review bombed before it was out, and rotten tomatoes took away the user review score for pre-release, which upset a lot of people. Then there's the whole, "this move is trying to shove feminism down everyone's throat!" Which upset the anti-feminist I try not to care too much I'll judge the movie when I actually see it |
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Post by Rouccoco on Mar 9, 2019 15:46:33 GMT
The one I heard the most about was that she said she wants less white men to be reviewers of the movie. A lot of people pointed out that was racist. I read about it like 20 minutes ago. She also said that a lot of female/POC reviewers, who are equally talented, are denied access to some opportunities, like these press junkets. Not that white men should be replaced for the sake of diversity. White men don't have some innate powers that make them better reviewers. A field that is very homogenous should always raise some red flags. Also she's right that some views matter more, when it comes to these things. I will value opinions of LGBT people way more, when it comes to LGBT themed media. I will go on a hunch that black reviewers will be better equipped to talk about the cultural impact of Black Panther. Cinema is still reeling from the Hays Code (or Motion Picture Production Code) that stifled diversity, both on-screen and off. Acknowledging it isn't "anti-white" or whatever. |
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 9, 2019 16:16:15 GMT
^^^OK, so I was able to watch it. I HATED the ending. HATED it.
EDIT: Because that movie was so depressing I had to go watch something to make me feel better. It's my favorite gay movie since Beautiful Thing, and that came out in 1996.
whaat? i though it had a happy ending? Ni, I meant the other movie I had been watching. That one made me depressed. I watched "God's Own Country" to make me feel better because I truly love it. |
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 9, 2019 16:18:22 GMT
^^^OK, so I was able to watch it. I HATED the ending. HATED it.
EDIT: Because that movie was so depressing I had to go watch something to make me feel better. It's my favorite gay movie since Beautiful Thing, and that came out in 1996.
I'm straight and I loved it when we saw it at the cinema! Also, though I live in a city, it's set in countryside that I know well. The title "Gods Own Country" (or sometimes "God's Own County") is often used to refer to my home county of Yorkshire, where the film is set. Yes. I honestly think that classifying it as a "gay movie" is mischaracterizing it. It's a beautiful love story in any sense of the word. If you knew how much I've cried over this movie, especially at the end. It gets me worked up just thinking about it. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 18:01:11 GMT
I didn't see the other piece you mention, probably because I didn't bother digging into it. I just knew there was controversy, saw that one statement, and went, "Oh, okay, more drama." Like I said, I try not to let stuff like that effect my view of the movie, negative or positive. If someone is talented, they should get those opportunities without race being a factor. It shouldn't matter at all. If whoever is in charge is denying anyone who's a POC just for that reason, then they should be called out on that, because that's the definition of racist. Someone's race just literally has zero to do with how good they are at reviews. I think my brother has seen Black Panther at least twenty times by now. He loves it. It's always great to see a movie with a majority minority cast do well. I think the movie could have a positive influence on white people, too, expose them to new culture and stuff like that. My point from my first post was basically that if a reviewer is white, but they're good, then it's not their fault they're white and they shouldn't be punished for that. The situation you mention is horrible. If a bunch of reviewers are white and it's like that because people of other races were denied, then that's messed up. I guess I just interpreted what she said a bit differently. Then again, I didn't go digging for info on it, so maybe she elaborated further. Not that white men should be replaced for the sake of diversity. This pretty much sums up what I was worried about. If that's not what she meant, then great! I can get behind wanting more equal opportunities for minorities. Edit: I mentioned the controversy to my mom and she literally just responded with, "I really don't care." XD I think my mom is just over racial drama. We were out seeing a movie once, I think it was one of the Hunger Games, and we went to the bathroom. My mom washed her hands at a sink and an old white lady was in line behind us, when she saw my mom use the sink, she made this, 'ugh' noise and then walked to the sink farthest away from us. It ticked off my mom, but I just thought it was funny she inconvenienced herself over something so silly. |
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Post by mediocreogre on Mar 9, 2019 18:35:37 GMT
The controversy with Captain Marvel would have happened no matter what Brie Larsen said.
You had angry MRA’s waiting to dissect the movie and tear into any perceived political statement in the movie or around the movie in order to fabricate a faux controversy to either get clicks on YouTube or Twitter or whatever. For months.
What Brie said was about as tame/vapid a statement an actor/actress can make, which is to criticize some facet of movie culture, get praised/encourage outrage press, while the real gears/levers of Hollywood that are pretty conservative/super creepy go un criticized, resulting in Hollywood at the moment producing rather safe/regressive movies that don’t accurately reflect seismic changes in the American culture.
The cold hard truth is while the MRA’s review bomb “failed” their gross world view is still prominent in places of power, including “liberal” Hollywood.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 18:47:46 GMT
The controversy with Captain Marvel would have happened no matter what Brie Larsen said. You had angry MRA’s waiting to dissect the movie and tear into any perceived political statement in the movie or around the movie in order to fabricate a faux controversy to either get clicks on YouTube or Twitter or whatever. For months. What Brie said was about as tame/vapid a statement an actor/actress can make, which is to criticize some facet of movie culture, get praised/encourage outrage press, while the real gears/levers of Hollywood that are pretty conservative/super creepy go un criticized, resulting in Hollywood at the moment producing rather safe/regressive movies that don’t accurately reflect seismic changes in the American culture. The cold hard truth is while the MRA’s review bomb “failed” their gross world view is still prominent in places of power, including “liberal” Hollywood. Yeah, I didn't think what she said was that bad. I thought maybe she could have worded it better, but it wasn't extreme enough to warrant the trolling or the claims of boycotts. Besides, Biotic's post got me thinking, she works in film, I don't. Maybe she witnessed some stuff firsthand that made her want to say that. I don't know. I do know that Hollywood has some serious issues going on behind the curtains. And I myself am guilty of letting exaggerated headlines distract me from the actual problems. Also, can I ask what MRA stands for? |
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Post by mediocreogre on Mar 9, 2019 19:04:15 GMT
The controversy with Captain Marvel would have happened no matter what Brie Larsen said. You had angry MRA’s waiting to dissect the movie and tear into any perceived political statement in the movie or around the movie in order to fabricate a faux controversy to either get clicks on YouTube or Twitter or whatever. For months. What Brie said was about as tame/vapid a statement an actor/actress can make, which is to criticize some facet of movie culture, get praised/encourage outrage press, while the real gears/levers of Hollywood that are pretty conservative/super creepy go un criticized, resulting in Hollywood at the moment producing rather safe/regressive movies that don’t accurately reflect seismic changes in the American culture. The cold hard truth is while the MRA’s review bomb “failed” their gross world view is still prominent in places of power, including “liberal” Hollywood. Yeah, I didn't think what she said was that bad. I thought maybe she could have worded it better, but it wasn't extreme enough to warrant the trolling or the claims of boycotts. Besides, Biotic's post got me thinking, she works in film, I don't. Maybe she witnessed some stuff firsthand that made her want to say that. I don't know. I do know that Hollywood has some serious issues going on behind the curtains. And I myself am guilty of letting exaggerated headlines distract me from the actual problems. Also, can I ask what MRA stands for? Oh sweet summer child. i hate to be the one to describe these trolls to you, but an MRA is a Men’s Rights Activist and they believe many things, some less insane than others, but they attract creeps who think Feminism is about neutering men and criminalizing masculinity. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 19:08:01 GMT
Oh sweet summer child. i hate to be the one to describe these trolls to you, but an MRA is a Men’s Rights Activist and they believe many things, some less insane than others, but they attract creeps who think Feminism is about neutering men and criminalizing masculinity. Jesus, Mary, and Joseph  I got a mental image of that in my head and, let me tell you, it was not pleasant. Thank you for informing me, for I am still young and ignorant to many things, but now I need to spend all spring break watching happy things to purge my mind XD |
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Post by mediocreogre on Mar 9, 2019 20:14:45 GMT
Oh sweet summer child. i hate to be the one to describe these trolls to you, but an MRA is a Men’s Rights Activist and they believe many things, some less insane than others, but they attract creeps who think Feminism is about neutering men and criminalizing masculinity. Jesus, Mary, and Joseph I got a mental image of that in my head and, let me tell you, it was not pleasant. Thank you for informing me, for I am still young and ignorant to many things, but now I need to spend all spring break watching happy things to purge my mind XD Well if it makes you feel better I have interviewed many MRAs (from incel, to MGTOW, to GayMRAs, to Islamic MRAs) and while some are horrifying, an unfortunately much larger number are simply confused humans who really don’t know what they are talking about because a lack of experience and blaming a secret evil society of Feminists helps them cope with terrible depression/sense of alienation. |
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Post by * on Mar 9, 2019 20:20:54 GMT
So I guess to answer my original question no one has seen it yet?  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 20:38:38 GMT
So I guess to answer my original question no one has seen it yet? I'm still trying to convince my family to go see Alita: Battle Angel, to no avail  But we'll definitely see Captain Marvel at some point. We want to be all caught up for Endgame |
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Post by * on Mar 9, 2019 20:57:34 GMT
So I guess to answer my original question no one has seen it yet? I'm still trying to convince my family to go see Alita: Battle Angel, to no avail But we'll definitely see Captain Marvel at some point. We want to be all caught up for Endgame Well I'll let you know how it is tonight lol. |
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Mar 9, 2019 23:02:57 GMT
To the discussion about Brie Larson's comments, I would add that, while the idea of people getting jobs based solely on their ability is a laudable aim, in the case of something as subjective as film criticism, there's more to it. We all have different life experiences, which give us different biases and different tastes. Two equally competent reviewers with different cultural identities will likely review the same film differently as seen through their contrasting prisms of experience. The broader the set of different backgrounds of reviewers (be that race, gender, ethnicity, sexuality or whatever), the better in my opinion. We need to see reviews from a wide variety of perspectives, to better cater to the wide variety of people who may want to see a film. Many fields, especially in the west, have historically been dominated by straight white men like me, and I'm personally all in favour of seeing more diversity. Actually for the sake of diversity, because the world is diverse.
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I got a mental image of that in my head and, let me tell you, it was not pleasant.
Much love right back at ya!
