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Post by Scottphoto on Aug 30, 2017 6:18:26 GMT
Tried the new modes. Don't know which is worse, FFA when there is a clear bias for certain heroes and it keeps putting you in matches alr in progress so how the fuck is it fair when everyone else alr have a lead + ult charge; or team deammatch where everyone just goes around doing their only shit like the toxicity that is in comp and quick play. I still like it way more than 3v3. In here you have way more space to turn things around, have ults and such. And I felt I could carry out a match better if I'm having the most dumb of teammates lol. I reached a point where I was like ok you guys won't group up crap as much as I spam it, so I'm just going to go widow at the top of this place and do things, ultimately it worked haha. I do agree the matchmaking letting people in when people are practically losing its crazy on both types. However, having these modes really spreads out a bit those toxic players that literally just play to get kills from the main modes too, while I will just use them as target practice when I play . I have to disagree with you on the Mercy thing though, matches at least on PS4 felt like you absolutely needed to have Mercy if the other team had one. And so many times the match was decided on who had the better Mercy Player at doing rez. I do think however that instead, making her ult charge much slower would have been enough for her. She could fully heal up a winston and practically charge up her ult almost fully on just using winston or most other tanks right now. And it annoys me because like I wanted to play Ana much more or even other healers, but I can't cuz Mercy is a must pick.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 30, 2017 10:53:45 GMT
Tried the new modes. Don't know which is worse, FFA when there is a clear bias for certain heroes and it keeps putting you in matches alr in progress so how the fuck is it fair when everyone else alr have a lead + ult charge; or team deammatch where everyone just goes around doing their only shit like the toxicity that is in comp and quick play. I still like it way more than 3v3. In here you have way more space to turn things around, have ults and such. And I felt I could carry out a match better if I'm having the most dumb of teammates lol. I reached a point where I was like ok you guys won't group up crap as much as I spam it, so I'm just going to go widow at the top of this place and do things, ultimately it worked haha. I do agree the matchmaking letting people in when people are practically losing its crazy on both types. However, having these modes really spreads out a bit those toxic players that literally just play to get kills from the main modes too, while I will just use them as target practice when I play . I have to disagree with you on the Mercy thing though, matches at least on PS4 felt like you absolutely needed to have Mercy if the other team had one. And so many times the match was decided on who had the better Mercy Player at doing rez. I do think however that instead, making her ult charge much slower would have been enough for her. She could fully heal up a winston and practically charge up her ult almost fully on just using winston or most other tanks right now. And it annoys me because like I wanted to play Ana much more or even other healers, but I can't cuz Mercy is a must pick. i feel like 3v3 is Better bc of the lockouts right now and it actually forces people to work together more (but lol we all know there'll be ppl trying to solo). I would agree more on the changes of mercy and dva if the reason was really about trying to make her play style more fun and not about because dps mains complain. As it is it's very obvious there's a clear favoritism for dps, bc there's like 8 attack roles alone, not to mention to defense roles are also dps. And this is really stupid bc just bc people complain about it it should be changed even though it's not a a right move (personally)? Like for example dva her dm lasts 4 seconds and rarely will she have the full 4 seconds up, that's not even enough to protect a support bc almost all of the continuous dps ults last past that. And now what you're nerfing it to 2 seconds to what??? Make supports easier to kill?? A tank not being able to tank is not a good rework. And mercy can't outheal the ults either, so what? Only lucio and zen (which can be countered by sombra and Ana) can even hope to save their team from an ult combo.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 30, 2017 10:58:26 GMT
"It's no fun to have your ult getting eaten by dm" What about it's no fun to literally die/get teamwiped everytime a dps ults bc there isn't enough tanking/healing capabilities to save a team?
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Post by Scottphoto on Aug 30, 2017 15:07:19 GMT
"It's no fun to have your ult getting eaten by dm" What about it's no fun to literally die/get teamwiped everytime a dps ults bc there isn't enough tanking/healing capabilities to save a team? And I agree with you on that, they shouldn't do it cuz dps mains. Ana was basically nerfed to the ground so that annoying flanker dps have no issues killing her at all and god forbid a healer being effective at their job. Getting Zarya ulted and then wiped by another ult in the process its super annoying and a pain. With the new mercy and dva change they should just revert the "can't escape" zarya thing, cuz that just smells like the new meta right there. Dva's matrix was annoying at times, but I think her function to protect against ults is great, my only annoyance was like if I played junkrat she would eat every single ammo out of him. Im not happy she is more of a dps character with those rockets though, last thing we need is more dps. I would have kept her the same way. The character that really made me rage this meta was Winston and even then I don't want a nerf for him. I still think the Mercy change is the right way to go cuz I really like that she flies, but we will have to see how it all turns out.
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Post by Scottphoto on Aug 30, 2017 15:56:32 GMT
Getting shirtless Mccree into that victory screen is worth the sacrifice of playing FFA .
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Post by Aliaspig on Aug 30, 2017 16:05:53 GMT
I understand why they are making the changes. But, yeah, I don't understand why dps mains don't just think about getting dva out of mech before ulting. I don't even play dps that often and I do it. Or for that matter, to expect a Rez if Mercy is alive. It's not like she's just never gonna ult. But I do like the changes for the most part.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 30, 2017 18:03:33 GMT
I understand why they are making the changes. But, yeah, I don't understand why dps mains don't just think about getting dva out of mech before ulting. I don't even play dps that often and I do it. Or for that matter, to expect a Rez if Mercy is alive. It's not like she's just never gonna ult. But I do like the changes for the most part. or wait for her to expend dm. Now literally almost nothing counters zarya + dva ult combo except barriers which can be played around with. There are no healers capable of countering that.
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Post by Aliaspig on Aug 31, 2017 1:03:37 GMT
Yeah, if dps mains want to know what is really annoying, they should try being solo ulted by half the heroes in the game as a squishy healer. I'm not sure why they decided to make the Zarya changes tbh, I didn't feel like it was something that was really being asked for. I still think some characters should be able to escape from graviton.
In other news, the new reduced Mercy flight speed hurts my soul.
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Post by JayKay on Sept 1, 2017 1:55:38 GMT
Yeah, the D.Va changes I'm a little unsure about. It already feels like Defense Matrix goes away way too fast and she's just not that good a tank. Whenever I play her, half the time the mech blows up and I'm scrambling to not get my ass blown away and waiting for a new one.
Though, to be fair, I'm not sure how much of that is problems with the character or if it's just me being a n00b. I'm sure it's a mix of both.
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Post by Scottphoto on Sept 1, 2017 6:14:52 GMT
Yeah, the D.Va changes I'm a little unsure about. It already feels like Defense Matrix goes away way too fast and she's just not that good a tank. Whenever I play her, half the time the mech blows up and I'm scrambling to not get my ass blown away and waiting for a new one. Though, to be fair, I'm not sure how much of that is problems with the character or if it's just me being a n00b. I'm sure it's a mix of both. Nah it happens. When Im Dva I feel my matrix doesnt last very long, when Im battling a dva it feels their matrix is eternal lol. I wish I could play Dva without mech more though, her pistol is so fast and I always feel I aim even better with pistols in most games lol. Whats funny is that the last time Dva was changed, everyone thought she was dead nerfed to the ground again, till people actually started to understand better the use of matrix and later turned into a meta character. Yet I don't get why blizzard is nerfing matrix when they said that time, that matrix was her true tank purpose. Sometimes I think they make changes for the chaos of it too lol.
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Post by Vallerie on Sept 1, 2017 14:01:18 GMT
Yeah, the D.Va changes I'm a little unsure about. It already feels like Defense Matrix goes away way too fast and she's just not that good a tank. Whenever I play her, half the time the mech blows up and I'm scrambling to not get my ass blown away and waiting for a new one. Though, to be fair, I'm not sure how much of that is problems with the character or if it's just me being a n00b. I'm sure it's a mix of both. Nah it happens. When Im Dva I feel my matrix doesnt last very long, when Im battling a dva it feels their matrix is eternal lol. I wish I could play Dva without mech more though, her pistol is so fast and I always feel I aim even better with pistols in most games lol. Whats funny is that the last time Dva was changed, everyone thought she was dead nerfed to the ground again, till people actually started to understand better the use of matrix and later turned into a meta character. Yet I don't get why blizzard is nerfing matrix when they said that time, that matrix was her true tank purpose. Sometimes I think they make changes for the chaos of it too lol. Blizzard offices: "Okay, meta has become stable again, what are we going to do to mess with it now? How about we...make drastic changes to characters who do well in the current meta? That should mess with things "
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 2, 2017 11:29:42 GMT
I hate the new control point format. It's like if you lose the first one you basically lost the whole round it's stupid.
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Post by toomanyclouds on Sept 2, 2017 13:50:02 GMT
So how did your placement matches go?
I grouped with a friend about 400 SR higher than me, we got 8 losses 2 wins (my worst so far, we also had two games with leavers and like three where people devolved into typing rants at each other all game). He'd done some placements before but funnily enough got the same amount of losses and wins and was placed basically like he'd lost 8 games and won 2 from his last season end placement. I was placed a few SR above my last season end placement playing mostly Zenyatta, Lucio and Ana. I'm not sure if the game thought he'd dragged me up in MMR or something and compensated for that, but it's quite interesting.
Also 6 of my placement matches were 2CP. RELEASE ME.
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Post by Scottphoto on Sept 2, 2017 18:05:12 GMT
Im waiting till monday for placements, hoping most of the super salty crazy players do it on the weekend. Also they said rewards were going to be lower but when I pressed options on the rewards, it said the same comp currency rewards so im confused.
I seen in general a better outcome at placing people though for sure. Your case is an interesting one. Cuz I saw most that got higher SR was because they won more than 5 placement matches, as in got more wins than losses on them. But I guess it also depends on how much you carried on those matches too now. Still it seems that the automatic drop they used to do is gone finally.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 3, 2017 14:50:48 GMT
Someone on reddit won all ten placements went from 3k to 4.1k
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Post by Aliaspig on Sept 3, 2017 22:36:15 GMT
I'm waiting for the Mercy rework to go live before I do placements. Fingers crossed that they don't nerf her too bad before then.
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Post by morevna on Sept 3, 2017 23:53:24 GMT
You guys remember these really pretty figures?: Don't know if anyone's interested, but one of my friends was at this year's gamescom and she was told by an employee what the next figure will be. After Genji (who was shown there), supposedly it's going to be Reinhardt. With his shield and everything. It will probably be as huge as the Dva one, which is like 500 euros. This is a lot of $$$... Why am I so broke.
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Post by Aliaspig on Sept 4, 2017 0:14:40 GMT
You guys remember these really pretty figures?: Don't know if anyone's interested, but one of my friends was at this year's gamescom and she was told by an employee what the next figure will be. After Genji (who was shown there), supposedly it's going to be Reinhardt. With his shield and everything. It will probably be as huge as the Dva one, which is like 500 euros. This is a lot of $$$... Why am I so broke. Those figures are so good. Wish I had the money to drop on one.
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Post by Aliaspig on Sept 10, 2017 20:30:29 GMT
I just realized I've never posted this anywhere before. If any of you want to add me on pc: Pignatol#1467
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 19, 2017 4:01:54 GMT
I love the new placements I got 3592 on 6/4/0 lol. that's like 87 more sr than my final last season of 3505. Would have been higher if the last placement match wasn't a total steamroll against my favour. rip.
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