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Post by mediocreogre on Feb 18, 2022 20:12:09 GMT
Yeah I am kinda avoiding this game after the update cause I don’t wanna see the nightmare that are my mods lol
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Post by Lee on Feb 20, 2022 14:18:01 GMT
I got a new text chain from River. This is before commitment but after saving Randy:
Note: there were some different options I could have picked but they were the more dismissive non-romance options. Edit: Got another convo thread. I tried to fit it into 2 pictures like last time, but there was one extra line-probably cause I tried to avoid talking about River's ex...sigh she was just a friend before. whatever though.
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Post by farferello on Feb 20, 2022 17:37:47 GMT
I like that they help flesh things out between him and V. Some flirting before the dinner so it doesn't feel like it comes out of nowhere anymore and also shows his interest in you before it. Though I wonder if they'll come off just as flirty for a male V now I think of it. (I'm wondering if this is going to break the mod I use to romance him as a male V now I think on it.) Edit: Was it ever mentioned in game prior that Yawen was his ex? I... don't remember that from before. I knew they were friends and had known each other for a long while but I don't remember him ever mentioning they dated. If that's a new thing they decided to add with this patch then... why? Why do we need to know he dated her all of a sudden? To make V jealous? I'm wondering what sort of new shit Kerry will get now. Edit 2: I went hunting for Kerry's mails. They're... perfectly in character for him but idk if I'd describe them as 'romantic' as such. These are sent after the Boat Drinks commitment scene: |
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Post by Lee on Feb 21, 2022 3:48:06 GMT
Yeah-they decided to make his friend and ex for no apparent reason it seems. I can't help but think that must be what straight guys think people who romance men want-cause we are constantly getting exes mentioned in romances.
Yikes, Kerry's new stuff is just as cringe-worthy it seems. I like some of the game's writing-but so much of it is just so childish. ugh.
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Post by Lee on Feb 21, 2022 8:55:22 GMT
Mechanic changes talk: Well, I'm making some good progress. It looks like with the new XP bonus (20% for a real-life hour), from when you sleep at one of the apartments or love interest's place, it might be possible to hit level 50 without doing nearly as much of the really boring scanner type quests. I don't know for sure though. I did all of those in (watson?/staring area), but moving forward I'm mostly only doing them if they happen to be near by something else I'm doing.
I probably don't need to hit level 50, but it's good to find out if it's easier now. Seems like it will be. The critical build is nerfed to hell as mentioned, but it seems like netrunner is actually stronger than before if anything. Once you get legendary sonic shock (to shut down any fear of revealing location) it's pretty much a cakewalk.
I'm just now starting to spec into cold blood. I know I said I might try something else, but what can I say I'm a creature of habit. I don't get damage much so I don't know if it's worth it defense-wise or not yet. However, I'm sure I'll find out eventually. No matter how good at stealth one is, mistakes happen.
Honestly, I can tell that the nerf that will hurt the most for the secret ending is the mod nerf. having fewer clothing mod slots and the nerf to armadillo means you will not be able to sponge hits like before (not that it was all that possible anyway). One can hope that the enemies hit a bit less harder in that quest now to balance things-but who the F knows. So aside from those 2 romance text chains I got last night-nothing much new has shown up aside from the whole River waking up next to V thing.  I did get a text chain from Panam about River surprisingly enough. I thought it was cute. Especially when I picked the *paraphrased* "he makes me feel safe" option when talking to her she said something to the effect she was "crossing her fingers and toes for us". It made me laugh and smile. Panam isn't so bad when she's in the friend role only.  |
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Post by Lee on Mar 3, 2022 8:41:57 GMT
So I finished my run on the ps5. I completed 80% of the trophies (still haven't done the Devil ending for one thing). I gotta say the game is stable on ps5. I only had 2 crashes and they were both from times when I had no-lifed the game for way too long (6 hours one time-I realized I was super hungry and looked at the time and was like...how the fuck did that happen?!?!)
The only major bug still around is the visual (or audio in some cases) hangovers. I have to say as annoying as the times when some piece of random UI gets frozen on the screen-I have to say the scanning ticking sound getting stuck is still the major offender. That sound can drill through my brain. Luckily saving and reloading fixes both types of that issue.
I really enjoyed the new driving tweaks, and the mountain of new River Texts was sweet! I got nothing much to complain about-just wish the ending would have gotten a re-write-but we can't have it all I guess.
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Post by farferello on Apr 14, 2022 17:00:17 GMT
2023. Huh. Not surprised.
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Post by Lee on Apr 14, 2022 19:19:30 GMT
Cyberpunk 2077 fans are used to the disappointment I guess...but still it sucks. All those games they are working on at once though! That's the annoying part for me. They refuse to focus on anything it would seem.
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Post by farferello on Apr 15, 2022 8:26:51 GMT
Having their fingers in so many pies means things will come out slower and likely not be as good as if they'd focused on one thing at a time. Cyberpunk should have been their priority over literally anything else considering everything.
But I can't find it in myself to care too much. The only dlc/expansion I'd be interested in would be something that lets my V live and as I don't see them doing any expansion post game, I find it hard to care honestly. By the time this expansion comes out, most people will likely have moved on from Cyberpunk anyway.
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Post by Lee on Apr 15, 2022 9:13:24 GMT
Having their fingers in so many pies means things will come out slower and likely not be as good as if they'd focused on one thing at a time. Cyberpunk should have been their priority over literally anything else considering everything. But I can't find it in myself to care too much. The only dlc/expansion I'd be interested in would be something that lets my V live and as I don't see them doing any expansion post game, I find it hard to care honestly. By the time this expansion comes out, most people will likely have moved on from Cyberpunk anyway. Yeah it is pretty hard to see any dlc that happens before the ending being worth paying into. Also agreed, most people will have already moved on. I'm guessing many already have. It doesn't even make sense to drop dlc 2 (possibly 3) years later after a game is out-unless you have a very active player base. That isn't the case here sadly. |
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Post by dgcatanisiri on Apr 25, 2022 10:26:31 GMT
So I finished out a first run the other night. My in the moment reactions over the course of my run are up on my Tumblr. Summarized version: Overall, the game wasn't bad (played my PS4 copy, had a few crashes, but still way better than my initial playing of Assassin's Creed Valhalla, which had an average of at least one crash a night right after I started). But THAT ENDING... That ending alone could put me off replaying at all. Because going to the Aldecaldos, rather than trusting Arasaka - rather than trusting a corporation - just freaking makes SENSE, and yet by doing it, I'm locked in to V leaving Night City, and with Panam, who... Well, I don't dislike her, but DAMN is she shoved at the player. It's clear that she's who CDPR EXPECTS V to be romancing, and it got so EXHAUSTING. Especially with all the texts from the Aldecaldos that acted like I was romancing her when I was actually pushing her away at every opportunity. One of them actually played like it was something that was in response to the plot - I'd gone with Panam and the group to raid the convoy on the train, and while we were doing it, I get a text from Saul, asking where Panam is. I thought this was part of the storyline, given the argument they had, and V had a remark that seemed appropriately snarky ("Why are you asking me? I ain't her babysitter."), but Saul's response was like he assumed that V and Panam were off in a broom closet somewhere. Not to mention the two I got from Carol, her pulling the "big sister sizing up her little sister's prospective boyfriend" act, while I'm just wanting to know why she's even doing this, cuz I have NO intentions there... *sigh* Of course, that brings me around to Kerry, who... Not a bad character. Horrible romance. Not just is everything about even getting to meeting him a problem for me (bodily autonomy being a major THING for me, as I've discussed in regards to Liara and the meld in Mass Effect...), but the whole business of him destroying the boat... I actually stopped in the middle of it, reset, and told him I wasn't going out on it with him, because I see only stupidity and mindless destruction in tearing it apart. I don't want to play the adult in the room to his lack of impulse control, and considering how much of his quest chain involve him doing this shit and not being able to stop him... Nope. Couldn't do it. The one M/M romance in the game, and it's completely unplayable for me. And just... Everything about the River interactions ARE going towards a romance. Like I've looked at the scenes on YouTube, there is actually different dialogue between male V and female V, but BOTH are flirtatious, and Joss is DEFINITELY trying to angle for River and V to hook up. That you have to screw with game mechanics to have a romance with River as male!V is utter bullshit, because he SHOULD be a romance for male!V. But the thing is, I'm not really up for rolling a new V who can romance River, considering that I know how it ends and... What it SEEMS like CDPR was going for was that going to the Aldecaldos was saying that V is refusing the world and ways of Night City, run by the corporations, and is breaking out of that chain by heading out and away from Night City entirely. But what I see in this is "I don't trust the corps, I'm going to people I can trust at my back." Which... In the end, that FEELS like a genuinely cyberpunk message - don't trust the corps, don't trust the tech, trust the people. But I wasn't refusing to be a part of Night City. Give me my choice, I'd be STAYING in Night City, enjoying my last days and maybe trying to find an alternative - there, in Night City, in the hub of technology and development, where V has all their contacts who can provide more options for them to put them on to alternatives to just dying. Hell, for all the niceness that they present that ending with, it FEELS like V's giving up, because they're going off to where they will likely be disconnected from all things that could help them, and yet all the framing of that says that it's a positive thing? Bull! Oh, and... I DON'T like Johnny. At all. Unpleasant asshole doesn't work for me, and... I legit feel like Keanu Reeves is not comfortable with the character either, to the point that I legit think that CDPR should have gotten someone else, a professional voice actor, saved some money, and we'd likely see less of the Johnny-jacking of the plot and maybe had a better, more cohesive story. I might get around to playing again, get that River romance I deserve, but if I do, I'm stopping when I get to the epilogue, because seriously, the idea that this is the "golden" ending is bullshit, but the alternatives don't fit the character either. |
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Post by farferello on Apr 25, 2022 11:15:49 GMT
I was hoping you'd come here to rant also as I've enjoyed your tumblr rants. You're honestly not wrong about any of it. Big rant. The Aldecaldo's ending is considered by many to be the 'best' or 'most hopeful' ending, and whilst it fit the V I was playing (Nomad V who was dating Saul, who Panam heroically sacrificed herself to save against Smasher *cough*) it's one of those endings clearly written for only the straight dude player in mind (with a side helping of bi/lesbian fem!V romancing Judy.) I could rant about the ending just for how it actually plays out. I'm salty so many people died for my character which is why I refuse to ever do it again - it's also very shit if you don't want to leave Night City, but don't want to kiss up to Johnny/side with Arasaka, on top of being an ending that screws a male V romancing Kerry or a fem V romancing River because neither will join you in it. The texts/idle comments from certain people who just assume you're romancing Panam or are only helping her because you want in her pants is tedious. My last V I played ended up shutting down her questline entirely just because the journal quest dialogue seemed to imply he was only helping her because he wanted to bang her (it was a good job I planned to go Arasaka on him considering that was the only option available to him other than suicide at the end.) Not that it mattered because Saul and Panam still both sent voice mails at the end acting like I'd completed the Aldecaldo questline when I'd actually tattled on her bullshit to Saul.  Given how much content she gets and a specific ending for her (and them killing my boy Saul off just so she could become defacto leader) left me incredibly annoyed, especially when comparing her content to what the other romances get, and it's especially annoying that everything for Kerry is locked behind letting Johnny take over your body multiple times which is both ick on the whole autonomy thing but the game also shows that repeatedly letting him take control is fucking with your health and accelerating all the issues that comes with Johnny's presence trying to wipe you out. Totally agree on the River thing. There's some differences between male and female V but they're both still pretty flirtatious - the fact they added a text chain with the last patch to purposefully mention his last girlfriend is eyeroll inducing. I'm not sure if it's a text chain you only get if you're the right gender or not but it's weird to add regardless because it's also some weird jealously thing. It's strange. Kerry's romance texts are... pretty childish - Panam once again seems to get the better end of the deal (and there's a mod that gives her even more on top of it.  ) Considering you can walk away from Arasaka after doing their ending I don't know why you're not given the chance in the Aldecaldo ending after you're done to say you're staying in Night City. The only other ending if you don't do the Rogue stuff is either killing yourself, or letting Johnny take over. The latter is just... no. Because apparently he just fucks off and doesn't tell anyone he's leaving so your friends/love interest have no clue. My first character was... friendly enough with him as I wanted the secret ending and had to just force myself through all the Johnny parts. My second V didn't like him much but was civil and my most recent one hated him. He hated him so much and took the pills to make him fuck off every chance he got - but he didn't get anywhere near enough options to tell Johnny how much he hated him. That playthrough just... really made me dislike the guy further just because my pro Arasaka, Corpo V just wasn't given enough opportunities to bitch at him and call Johnny out on his shit. I really like Keanu but... the voice acting and character wasn't great and it's kinda shit they went away from what Silverhand actually looks like to make him fit Keanu, and I'm also still salty that we likely lost a really interesting storyline just so they could rewrite the entire plot to make Silverhand a big part of it when initially he was supposed to have just a small roll. I got so sick of how many times I was made to play as him, especially the times he took over my V and did fucked up stuff whilst controlling V as a meat puppet and never once stopped to think how it might affect them, like the fingering a stripper/car crash, very nearly fucking Rogue in your body if she hadn't stopped him part. Ugh. |
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Post by Lee on May 12, 2022 11:50:43 GMT
So...I started a new run as Male/masc V mainly cause I wanted to do the Kerry romance at least once on ps5...The problem is I hate this character cause I went for a body build and it's...terrible. I'm sure it'll be fine once I can get a beserk implant, but till then I'm just terribly squishy. I've died so many times and it is draining my enjoyment. If it doesn't get better when I do eventually get the Berserk-I may wind up restarting and doing the str points secondary and just be a hacker like always...but I wanted something new!!! Edit: forgot to mention I have to get 16 str for the second heart trophy and that's the reason I'm forcing myself to play like this. But I really didn't expect it to go so...poorly.  |
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Post by farferello on May 12, 2022 18:53:15 GMT
Are you doing melee with the Body build? I've gone heavily into Body before but never really focused on melee, especially blunt weapons, and low level it's rough regardless. It really takes levelling it up and getting a lot of perks for health and stamina before it's really viable. My Nomad V was Body/Rifle shotgun based so he would run into close quarters as if I were playing him melee. That took a while to come online but once it did with the perks I never really took damage (though I know they've since overhauled the perks system so that may differ now.) The only other time I really used melee was on the end of my last run and by that point I was high level and it was a lot easier, though the mantis blades heavy animation locking you into position always meant I took way more damage than I should have. I don't think there's any fun blunt melee weapons compared to the blade melee ones either (or you get them much closer to the end of the game.)
I think a Body build especially if melee was likely easier before they nerfed a lot of stuff in the last few patches like the Armadillo mods and various perks. Hopefully as you level it up the extra health will help.
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Post by Lee on May 13, 2022 2:13:38 GMT
farferello yeah, I was trying for a full-on blunt weapon build (and probably some guerilla arms later on). The build is a bit hard to set up since so much got nerfed. I really hate how the difficulty keeps going up (mostly affecting the early game). I don't get why they keep nerfing things! I'm considering re-rolling my perks and going more into shotguns, but only if beserk doesn't help. But yeah-I know I'll probably have to put off certain quests till I can "get gud". 
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Post by Lee on May 13, 2022 11:22:58 GMT
So I made a lot of progress tonight. I'm doing a lot better, and managed to pick up the berserk (got the legendary version even), but it isn't helping as much as I wanted. Still, my luck has improved since I leveled up a lot. I need better armor-too bad they nerfed all the mod slots to where you can't really use but a few armadillo mods-worse yet is since they randomized it's location I may never even find the crafting spec for it.  Anywho...I was really owning everything in the pickup main quest till I got to the fight with Royce. I sadly had to try a few times there and used a gun instead of my trusty bat. it seems a full melee build just isn't in the cards. The good news is I can probably find a decent secondary calling in small machine guns/shotguns. (though I find the guns really boring if I'm honest!) |
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Post by farferello on May 13, 2022 13:49:58 GMT
So I made a lot of progress tonight. I'm doing a lot better, and managed to pick up the berserk (got the legendary version even), but it isn't helping as much as I wanted. Still, my luck has improved since I leveled up a lot. I need better armor-too bad they nerfed all the mod slots to where you can't really use but a few armadillo mods-worse yet is since they randomized it's location I may never even find the crafting spec for it. Anywho...I was really owning everything in the pickup main quest till I got to the fight with Royce. I sadly had to try a few times there and used a gun instead of my trusty bat. it seems a full melee build just isn't in the cards. The good news is I can probably find a decent secondary calling in small machine guns/shotguns. (though I find the guns really boring if I'm honest!) You may end up having to use guns for a bit in harder main story stuff and then melee in side story until you're a higher level. Melee builds are definitely far less forgiving compared to gun builds, same for tech stuff at early levels, it's something that gets better the higher you are but their nerfs lately has been a bit much. I don't know why they keep nerfing things this far down the line. I know if I play Vitor again I'm going to have to use mods because they even nerfed the sniper I use on him.  I really don't get why game devs like to nerf single player games so much to the point it becomes less fun. Quickhack builds already feel like the 'strongest' you can play overall even with the nerfs to various quickhacks. My first playthrough I stuck with quickhacks even when it was hard because I was super squishy. Only near the end did I start using pistols (and it was kinda needed in Don't Fear the Reaper.) My second V was shotguns/gorilla arms though I did use normal rifles at the beginning until I could tank gunfire more easily. My last V was quickhacks/sniper when needed and then only at the end did I really use the mantis blades. Quickhack builds are definitely the way to go but it does get boring. They just keep nerfing the various ways you can build your V until everyone you play, is played the same.  |
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Post by Lee on May 14, 2022 2:29:24 GMT
Yeah. It does feel like they have taken a lot of the fun out. I feel like the vocal minority that bitches about games being too easy has really started to make games trend towards being too hard of late. Not every game needs to be hard, especially the easy modes in games. WTF is the point of having an easy mode if it's not easy?
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Post by Lee on May 25, 2022 11:13:37 GMT
I haven't posted in a while. I am at the final act finally. I am on the second quest for Kerry now to be more precise. I am at level 47 and I've fully gone back to being a netrunner instead of using melee.  Oddly I found it quite easy to level up all of that late game. It went smoother in some ways than starting out that route. Still...I probably won't make a str-based start again anytime soon. Though, I do feel like using it as a third skill instead of cool (now that crit chance and cold blood have been nerfed so hard) is a much better way to go. Second heart has saved me a few times when things got too dicy, and extra health is always nice. |
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Post by farferello on Jun 9, 2022 11:56:06 GMT
Looks like some dlc leak, take with a grain of salt but um... there's more than just this (spoilers obviously) I also looked through the files and it looks like the dlc will add to the game endings. Looks like you get another ending by going with Arasaka but then picking this Songbird choice. Much bigger spoilers: Devil ending looks really damn interesting, it sounds like it's gonna be even more messed up, more Takemura content also. The files aren't in any real order so it's hard to figure things out exactly but it looks like maybe V can survive, but possibly only through the Songbird choice? It's confusing as it reads like there's both/good bad things that can happen. The dialogue doesn't have names so it's kinda hard to tell what's going on. Read at your own risk of biiig spoilers. If you're interested in the finale dialogues let me know.  |
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I really don't get why game devs like to nerf single player games so much to the point it becomes less fun. Quickhack builds already feel like the 'strongest' you can play overall even with the nerfs to various quickhacks.
Oddly I found it quite easy to level up all of that late game. 
