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Post by mediocreogre on Feb 12, 2024 0:39:18 GMT
I kinda wish they would have kept the Sheepthara Heist method for Minthara as the method to get her on a good playthrough. Like put an item that lets you do it somewhere but with less jank to honor the creative thinkers who pulled it off.
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Post by nickclark89 on Feb 12, 2024 20:20:54 GMT
maaan it feels so nice seeing Larian sharing in social media same gender pairings so many times, Bioware would never lol
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Post by milanawalters on Feb 13, 2024 0:44:38 GMT
maaan it feels so nice seeing Larian sharing in social media same gender pairings so many times, Bioware would never lol Yes! Not my favorite pairing though( enemy to lovers š) give me shadowheart and karlach instead lol
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Post by mediocreogre on Feb 14, 2024 14:33:14 GMT
My immediate thought is what theyāll do for the small characters. In my honour run I played a deep gnome lady (was sure the character would die so it was a more random character) who romanced Karlach and while the scenes are better than most RPGs with small characters, it wasnāt perfect. So I kinda wanna see that get love and I donāt think Iāve seen that yet.
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Post by farferello on Feb 14, 2024 18:23:47 GMT
I really wished I enjoyed the melee classes in this game more. I've been trying to think of what class I want to play for my next Galemance and I'm coming up short. I've played Paladin enough and don't really enjoy it outside of smites, Cleric is okay but my Galemance will likely use Shadowheart. When I play my corrupted!DUrge run I plan to use a Bhaalist Rogue'esque class mod so don't want to go Rogue, and I'll use Karlach on that run also so I don't want to play a Barbarian either. I just find Fighter kind of boring. The only playthrough I really tried it on (outside of dipping for action surge/extra action) was an Eldritch Knight and I spent most of that just throwing a spear at things. I've not played Monk but it doesn't feel like it would fit a DUrge and I don't know if I'd enjoy the Ki mechanic anyway- I may have to see if I can find some subclass mods. Mostly I just don't want to romance Gale (for a technically 4th time) with a magic user again. I think Rogue Trader has spoiled me for melee classes in crpg's.
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Post by nickclark89 on Feb 14, 2024 23:42:54 GMT
sadly no patch today but wow they keep sharing gay shit I AM LI-VING
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Post by mediocreogre on Feb 15, 2024 2:08:09 GMT
Wow lol. farferello with out the ābladeā cantrips (green flame blade and booming) a lot of melee gushes are limited. Plus they put boring fighter subclasses in, imo. A pretty fun melee build though is bonus action Barbarian (frenzy and thief). Also getting the acid items in a melee character, especially the one that explodes that can be fun. If you would entertain mods, bladesinger wizard is a great melee. Echo knight mod is great and the mod author is talented. Blood Hunter is technically 5e and more fun than base fighters. There a home brew cleric of elistraee that is basically a cleric bladesinger too. Thereās also a magus class mod which takes the 2e pathfinder magus and adapts it pretty well. But pathfinder 2e has much better action economy than DnD 5e but the class looks like it would be fun. I agree though melee is kinda boring, mostly cause of the subclasses. A pretty good one too is the bard that gets you flourishes plus battle master fighter with all the command abilities. Like commanding ally to get a new attack and all your bard flourishes. Thatās my go to build for LaeāZel and itās fun. Commander build. this guy makes really unique multiclass builds for DnD that are rarely casters and mostly melee builds, he made a few bg3 build videos d4 builds
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Post by disgustednoise on Feb 15, 2024 7:40:51 GMT
Honestly Monk and Barbarian are probably my favorite classes in this game.
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Post by mediocreogre on Feb 15, 2024 13:28:33 GMT
Honestly Monk and Barbarian are probably my favorite classes in this game. Monk and Barb got a lot of love from Larian, specifically open hand and berserker/wild heart (lariatās unique subclass). Berserker is so powerful because with out fatigue mechanics, itās just all gasoline. In TT berserker can kill you. These compared to Shadow which got nerfed though (it no longer synergizes with rogue knife builds) and four elements and wild magic are kinda dookie. but they do require a special RP unfortunately where as fighter needed more love cause fighter can be more types of characters. Battle master is good, but champion is bad and eldritch knight is a warrior that can cast shield. The good thing is barb is great multi class material. Monk less so now. Rogue too. Assassin is only good if you multiclass gloomstalker, arcane trickster if you get that ring in act 3, while thief is fun in multiclass. And melee ranger is still just a class with passives. Which is sad cause Minsc is thus nerfed again. Originally he was a ranger in name only, operating as the closest thing DnD had to a Barbarian. So now heās justā¦ boring unless you make him a Barbarian. Similarly Jaheira is now just a caster when she was more of a fighter as 5e druid doesnāt multiclass well and Larian actually broke shapeshifting working with spell casting. they sorta neglected fighter, rogue and melee rangers when they needed the love too.
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Post by nickclark89 on Feb 16, 2024 11:42:15 GMT
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Post by mediocreogre on Feb 16, 2024 14:01:30 GMT
Thereās actually tons in this patch. Itās basically a UI overhaul too, I donāt think Iāve seen quite this much gameplay/Ux change not even in the honour mode or epilogue patches.
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Post by farferello on Feb 16, 2024 16:25:03 GMT
I'm probably going to go with one of the Fighter subclass mods I've seen for my next Galemance run. I know there's some for Paladin but I am so, so very tired of having to constantly deal with Oath breaking. Guess I'll just murder these children just because they're vampires, because telling their father to let them feed on animals instead of suffering/munching on Humans/killing them is enough to smite me down ffs. I'm going to wait a while before I start a new run as script extender is broken right now and whilst I got saves to load if I removed it/any mod using it, it was kinda messy with the epilogue party/Avernus scenes not playing. Weirder still, my spawn!Ast had working kisses, but my Ascended!Ast from literally the same playthrough would kick me out of the scene before the kiss. I did at least get to see the new Elfsong room, post Netherbrain kill cutscene play on my Ascended!Ast run, though it didn't on my spawn!Ast run. (Nothing makes any sense though I'm wondering if the Karlach+Wyll dock scene made it bug out like it used to) idk, I will test things more once script extender is fixed. ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ I plan to start new saves with fresh mods for future runs anyway so it doesn't matter too much.
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Post by mediocreogre on Feb 17, 2024 2:21:33 GMT
Script extender updated, and quite a few mods donāt need an update. I canāt really test that though because basically redownloading the whole game is taking me and my deep rez internet way too fucking long. And normally I would drive my pooter to my friends house that somehow has better internet available but he hasnāt plowed the snow off his long ass road and I am not gonna brave that to play bg3 slightly faster lol.
Iām obviously not bothered, moisturized and thriving.
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Post by Lee on Feb 17, 2024 3:53:29 GMT
I'm looking forward to the new kiss animations. I might not play for a while though. I still got almost 3 seasons of "Shameless" to watch.
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Post by farferello on Feb 17, 2024 5:29:41 GMT
Yep script extender updated but unlike old patches where that was all that was needed, mods that use it will still crash the game despite it being updated so the mods themselves need updating. Considering some I used for my Halsin one (like the Minthara and subclass mod one) I don't see them getting updates so I can't load up my Halsin saves to check kisses. :/ It will have to wait until I replay this Drow, or more likely, make a new character for him, especially if this subclass mod will remain broken. Updating it did let me load up saves on my Astarion run however. I checked his new Ascended kisses and he is just so incredibly mean during them. They really made that he will always see you as debasing yourself check during his spawn turning scene pretty true with how he treats you during the kiss. Though if you went Ascended!Ast you're probably into the cruel domineering power play side of him anyway. I'm just glad I only went Ascended once to try it, future runs will definitely keep to spawn. Spawn!Ast kisses were cute however, even though he was like... oddly leaning up to kiss my guy, the angles gave them a bit of a weird height difference for no reason during one kiss but it was still cute. The randomness of which kiss you get is kind of a pain as I only saw one new kiss in the several times I tried to prompt it but oh well, when I replay this character at some point I'll just kiss him every time we return to camp and maybe finally get the other new ones to load. I'm still going to wait a bit before I start a new run, though the new Gortash Narrator lines are making it very difficult for me to choose to do my Gale run over my trash husbando run first.
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Post by mediocreogre on Feb 17, 2024 5:43:05 GMT
Yeah I booted it up with what updates I saw, and the biggest issue for me is improved ui assets arenāt updated but I could still load, but mostly think the update download corrupted my textures (no texture mods) and Iāll probably have to verify files before I do anything but I am tired from snow duty.
Modding is great but part of me almost jut ripped āāem all out like I did for honour mode but then I was likeā¦ my precious faces. My hair. My wifi potions.
Iām lucky that I have no saves I wanna reload. I just had a few incomplete modded runs and then 2 complete vanilla ones that while fun were a hectic honour run and my first playthrough that was plagued with bugs.
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Post by farferello on Feb 17, 2024 5:52:22 GMT
I removed UI assets and most of my other UI mods that haven't been updated yet so I'm waiting on that anyway. Also, the more I think about Ascended!Ast's new kisses I think the main reason I dislike them is that your character looks scared/intimidated during them. I've played Rogue Trader and romanced the bdsm cannibal murder hobo elf who also liked the sub/dom power player and was constantly gripping your throat/chin in an act of dominance but the difference between that and this is your character was allowed to be very much into it. Where as with Ascended!Ast your character is just looking pretty scared/intimidated. You're not allowed to be into it. Most people going Ascended!Ast probably want that toxicity and power play and would make their Tavs/DUrge's into it so your character suddenly looking all nervous and a little scared is kind of... weird. I guess Larian just really wanted to hammer in that Ascended!Ast is the bad ending for him regardless of whether people might be into that. Definitely tempted to do the Ascended!Ast on my corrupted!DUrge run for character swapping shenanigans though.
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Post by mediocreogre on Feb 17, 2024 6:32:00 GMT
The game is a bit heavy handed with morality. Itās my biggest gripe. Especially cause DnD was supposedly moving on from that, but WoTC basicallyā¦ fell apart so I dunno if thatās even a thing that will happen, all projects but bg3 are delayed or canceled so I have no idea if theyāll try to maintain that idea more than like 5 essays they wrote.
Apparently LaeāZel might ninjamance you at the end now. PTSD from the first time she did that to me.
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Post by farferello on Feb 17, 2024 12:00:10 GMT
Morality is whack all over the place. I was prepping for my next DUrge run which will be a resist!Urge until reuniting with a certain someone in Act 3 and then just snapping and falling back into his old ways. So, I was testing things out ahead of time and as Karlach was going to be a close friend I wanted to see if he could give her to Gortash as a gift as by that point he'd consider her a threat. But nope, you can't do anything like that. Which is a little disappointing considering you can side with the Gur and turn on Ascended!Astarion, give Shadowheart to Viconia, kill off Lae'zel when she aggros if you let the Emperor feed on whatshisface's brain, and give Aylin to Lorroaken. Funnier still though, if you take the 'don't pick a fight in front of the steel watch' option when allying with Gortash after getting Orin's Netherstone, she will literally just... say and do nothing and not have any reaction to allying with him. I am going to do horrible bad things at the end for head canon, I am so sorry Karlach. It's a shame. I can kinda see why people are mad that the evil path isn't that evil or you can't do enough evil. You can certainly do a lot of murder hobo stuff and pick the evil ending, but it's still kind of lacklustre that you can't side with the main villains. Yeah you can kinda side with Raphael and give him the crown in a sense but you can't play and side with the Dead Three because even if you ally with, say, Gortash, the game pulls a 'haha no' and has the brain kill him instantly. Which... why can't it do that to us? Why can it kill him when he doesn't have a tadpole but it can't do anything at all to us except the annoying slow down 'mindbroken' debuff when we're walking toward it?
I don't play evil, I hate evil and it will take a lot for me to get through act 3 as an evil DUrge, so it's a little disappointing that when I get there, I get a false decision that goes nowhere because Larian suddenly decides you can't side with the bad guys even though you can still dominate the brain and go evil that way She can WHAT? Was that added in from the changes they did with the Dragon and being able to go with her as a non Gith? I usually don't pick her up anyway and my next DUrge will taunt Orin into killing her but that's still pretty sucky. Though I have been reading that there's a whole bunch of bugs introduced with the patch, even for people on console/without mods. Edit: I was able to get my Halsin saves to load and omg, they really be giving the Halsin stans some good food after the fuckery of his romance pre party epilogue. I am dying, they were so precious.
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Post by mediocreogre on Feb 17, 2024 14:31:25 GMT
LaeāZel is Abducting people at the point where youād normally choose what you do before the epilogue and taking you on her new anti vlaakith dragon thing (which is cool but lore nerd me is likeā¦ the red dragons are evil and love vlaakith, thatās who they have a compact with, not Gith or Orpheus, itās between Tiamat and Vlaakith).
It even ends your romances at the epilogues because itās triggering romance flags lol. And yes, I fully agree, this game lets you be a murder hobo for sure but not really evil and for all of bg1/2 not doing evil that greatā¦ it was a bit more fun and better. Playing evil in this is actually painful. I tried.
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