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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 16:27:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 19:41:55 GMT
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Post by Lee on Aug 25, 2020 19:46:41 GMT
The first video I actually watched (cause cats). Wow, they are doing actual dice rolls...that is terrifying. I hope the easy mode somehow lessons the randomness of things or IDK if want...
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Post by mediocreogre on Aug 26, 2020 13:53:45 GMT
The first video I actually watched (cause cats). Wow, they are doing actual dice rolls...that is terrifying. I hope the easy mode somehow lessons the randomness of things or IDK if want... They’re being truer to tabletop D&D than most video game adaptations. Which is polarizing. i believe difficulty will be tied to DC (difficulty class) of a roll. So hard you have to roll over say 15 to persuade, easy you have to roll over 8. That’s how it’s done on tabletop. not sure how that would affect RNG content like rolling for a random thing but they do have the re-roll points that they’Ve said are easier and more frequent on lower difficulties. Essentially rolling with advantage but if you have enough points you appear to be able to roll until you get what you want, but we haven’t seen rolling in an RNG roll yet so I am unsure. save scumming will probably be useful if there’s RNG stuff that is important to go one way or another for RP reasons. and in terms of combat, at first it is annoying to miss a lot, but if you think about it, the mechanic is essentially the same as say Skyrim but instead of inflating health pools and Armor Reduction so that each attack you do has a percent of damage missing from it, that mitigation is instead a miss or dodge. also with turn based combat it’s not as bad as you think cause even if say you miss a spell attack or whatever you still have movement, a reaction, and a bonus action.
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Post by mediocreogre on Aug 27, 2020 20:47:34 GMT
I somehow missed that Shadowheart worships Shar. That’s pretty awesome. All the companions kinda have a “dark” side which gives me total DA2 vibes. But in a good way.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Aug 30, 2020 21:03:30 GMT
I'm sure you guys think every time I post about my progress something new about BG3 has come up sorryyyy 🙏 I'm in chapter 4 and ready to do the Cloakwood areas. I'm trying to do everything I can, meeting every companion and doing their things too... if it suits me (Coran )... Safana and Edwin are the only ones I cannot use anymore because the first I told her I didnt need another thief (lol I really dont need another Peebee in my group sorry!) but I finished her quest as I wrote days ago. And Edwin pretty much left after I dismissed him, lol bye bitch I did Neera's quest and the journal be like "I think she likes me" and I'm like I didnt write that you fucking devs lol WHY almost every game do this with female companions ... I havent finished Dorn's quest since it is required to go to Baldur's Gate but I hope he is forced that way too lol PS. I havent nor the game forced me to kill real life animals yet, feels nice even rescued an angry bear in the goblin's village when I did Neera's quest lol edit. wonder when it's a good time to do the DLC, I know there is a point of no return. Also, the fact all drows are considered evil is so racist I mean yeah it's a fictional race but...... well, real life racism inspirational take much? Viconia does not feel evil at all... yet...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2020 22:40:31 GMT
I'm sure you guys think every time I post about my progress something new about BG3 has come up LOLyes... srsly though, I like getting your takes and updates on your slog through that old-ass game. Im glad you seem to be enjoying it for the most part lol. Also yeah the whole "race x is evil"...theyre thankfully moving away from that bullshit. I fully plan to play as a Drow at some point in BG3. I've always liked them and my canon character in Icewind Dale was a drow. And I hope half-orc makes it in as well!
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Post by mediocreogre on Aug 30, 2020 23:33:38 GMT
D&d neckbeards will be like “akschully, some Drow are good look at Drzzt” which is true but on a whole only recently did they start changing the weird racism. Critical Role Campaign 2 really fleshes the post Llolth Drow lore out, but I have some issues with it still.... but that’s spoiler talk.
And my babies the Orcs and Goblinoids are still done so damn dirty.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Aug 31, 2020 21:22:10 GMT
I've been this close to kill a bunch of hunters in Cloakwood Lodge, thankfully Jaheira helped me to make a peaceful solution. It seems these fuckers give you a quest inside of Baldur's Gates... Probably gonna kill them later if the game let me I already killed a hunter that bragged about killing bears ooops This reminds me that I need to be a druid in some of the upcoming games, never been that kind of magical boi before. Hope the next Obsidian game has third person view, romances and druid as class, that would be super cool to me. Also, since I want to be a warlock in BG3 I really need to make up a story about why a good boi would seek the help of a Great Old one lol maybe something tragic, a sibling was killed maybe, he seeked for their resurrection, the Cthulhu-like sponsor tricked him something like "they shall live but inside of me huahaha" and maybe the soul of that human infects the old one something like Illyria from Buffyverse. We'll see lmao dont even know if that is lore friendly but I need to do a research about those big ass elder gods. edit. wtf a broodmother
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Post by mediocreogre on Sept 2, 2020 18:09:42 GMT
Generally Great Old Ones are a broad and diverse group of entities. They usually have some connection to the Far Realms, planes of existence defined by basically being incomprehensible to most beings from the other planes. But several Great Old Ones have no connection to the Far Realms outside favoring mental domination (the main power of the Far Realms denizens is causing insanity or the like).
Usually Great Old Ones are the most uninterested in their warlock pact members. Devil/demonic pacts always end in your favor being called in, usually to fight in the blood war. Fey Pacts are mercurial and sometimes benevolent but they generally will eventually want something from you.
Great Old Ones in the Far Realms might view a pact as merely a piece of sand in an hourglass they are playing. Their pound of flesh for power might seem inconsequential or merely be the slow corruption of your mind. Some may even give mortals power for no reason. If the Old One is chained on another plane or like one of the Drow pseudo Old Ones Betrayer Gods, then your pact is more apt to involve you trying to free them or serve in their campaign to dominate the material plane.
Generally though Great Old Ones Warlocks are roleplayed to go crazy while devil/fey pacts involve some sacrifice of physical nature and demon pacts can be all over the place.
but great old one pact warlocks can have tons of freedom in story telling because the whims and expectations of the Patron may even be vague images, feelings, and not be actual communication and contracts like with devils or fey.
edit: also there are completely not Great Old Ones classified as Great Old Ones pacts. Often times a forgotten betrayer god or betrayer god servant will tempt people with pact power in lieu of having clerics and for some reason these pacts are the same mechanically as true Great Old Ones.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2020 18:25:46 GMT
Watched bg3 interview with Swen just now.
a few points
They've finished the voice recordings needed for Early Access
They decided to up the level 10 cap for full release, so itll go beyond 10.
"Good" aligned companions are coming later, the 5 we have now are more neutral/evil aligned apparently.
Mod support confirmed.
Class respec option on the table
EA will be $59.99 so usual AAA game price
Swen gave advice about not constantly reloading if you get a dice roll you dont like, "they've got you covered"
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Sept 2, 2020 19:49:40 GMT
mediocreogre you know so much!!! Love it! Thanks I think I'm gonna go for Great Old one for sure, the fact the reasons of them being a patron being so vague definitely gives room for a lot of roleplay, and I doubt a custom character's backstory is going to be as defined as hottie Wyll "Good" aligned companions are coming later, the 5 we have now are more neutral/evil aligned apparently. This is cool! It means that if they give us a male non-human companion (male tiefling pls 🤞) he's going to be a good boi Swen gave advice about not constantly reloading if you get a dice roll you dont like, "they've got you covered" Totally scared about this lol let us reload
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2020 20:24:19 GMT
Totally scared about this lol let us reload lol To be more clear, he just said he wishes players will let the dice roll and let it play out and not reload 50 times cuz you never know how itll turn out further down the road with choices/consequences. "They've got you covered" hints to me like you can still get your desired/preferred outcome for something even if a few rolls fail. IF you want to reload constantly, you can still do that! Also more specifically, he said our 5 companions are True Neutral and Neutral Evil aligned. Guessing Bae'zel is going to be NE, Shadowheart too. Wyll and Gale strike me as TN. Astarion NE.. also I forgot to list in previous post, "Lone Wolf" playstyle confirmed for full release. Apparently the people playtesting it right now have asked for it often so. Lone wolf play doesnt interest me much but itll be there for those who like it.
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Post by mediocreogre on Sept 2, 2020 23:23:24 GMT
Interesting about companion alignments.
Shadowheart could be True Neutral and still follow Shar. But yeah.
edit: in that I am open to the interpretation that Gale is Neutral Evil as they tend to be arrogant and self centered.
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Post by farferello on Sept 3, 2020 12:13:06 GMT
Interesting that we're only getting access to True Neutral and Neutral Evil companions for EA. A few of them I can see being Neutral Evil, wondering what Wyll will be considering he made a deal with a demon and now wants to end said deal (whether it's because he regrets it, or just because he doesn't want to be under someone's control is up for debate.) Though now I'm not sure my good boy Cleric is going to want to romance an Evil aligned companion, may have to change plans on Wyll depending on how his personality plays out. My second character would still possibly work with Gale though. Also kinda lol that Humans/Elves are the main Evil companion aligned types. Hoping we'll get a Good-of-some-sort Tiefling, or Drow companion, that could be neat. As for reloading if you don't get the rolls you want... I'm probably going to reload until I get the outcome I want anyway, lol.
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Post by mediocreogre on Sept 3, 2020 12:34:22 GMT
Wyll has at times been implied to be a person who fought for some cause and made a Pact out of somewhat desperate circumstances. Most often they say he regrets it but he’s still the least seen. So true neutral possible.
Gale is said to be obsessed with being the best and infatuated with some powerful being and these things led him to self destructive behavior (true neutrals tend to be about balance, gale seems extremes are his thing). True neutral is still possible though.
Githyanki are ruthless as a culture and borderline genocidal. Vampire spawns make sense to be neutral evil as their whole survival depends on the suffering of others.
ShadowHeart I can see going either way but her description says specifically she is wrestling with her faith. And usually Shar initiates are exposed to the Shadow Weave after passing a test of faith. Neutral Evil would not balk at the price of the Shadow Weave. Another interpretation though is that her being Neutral Evil she cares mostly for herself and does not like being sent to her death.
I’m not a huge fan of dnd morality systems so hopefully there’s some nuance (which I see as all the characters are going through a crisis of sorts).
but this reminds me of debates I had in high school with my dnd crew then, about whether neutral evil alignment you could even be a cleric for anyone even an evil god. Your wholly self interested, and even evil gods want you to care about their interests more.
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Post by mediocreogre on Sept 3, 2020 14:58:30 GMT
Neutral Evilness did not make sense to me for years until I started thinking about it as American Libertarianism/Social Darwinism. The weak perish, the strong thrive. Success is the only virtue that matters.
True Neutral is like a radically planned society focused on the whole and not any individual interest and a little cold (because often times there is an apathy to almost everything besides balance or asceticism). Lawful Good is a belief in top-down benevolence sometimes to an extent you could ignore oppression or corruption. Chaotic good are like civil rights activists. Chaotic neutral is like anarcho syndicalists and extremely left activism and lawful neutral is socialism.
Lawful Evil is like Movement Conservativism in the US and chaotic evil is like the Ledger’s Joker character.
neutral good is maintenance of the status quo, the most good for the most people, but can be non confrontational and apologetic for problems in the world.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 21:58:22 GMT
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Post by mediocreogre on Sept 3, 2020 22:56:49 GMT
Only question I have is will there still be a society capable of providing power to my PC so I can play BG3 when the game comes out.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Sept 5, 2020 17:29:34 GMT
So I'm trying to decide if I should do the Thieves guild quests, I'm not a thief and I never -unless I brainfarted lol- stole anything from good/neutral characters (even though Imoen lockpicks a lot to loss reputation lmao) and now I have this moral dilemma I can... somehow roleplay that my party wants to know more about the Iron Throne and the Thieves' Guild is good way to know things, so infiltration seems to be a cool way of a justification, but I dont want to do evil things to do this, steal is ok I guess, but forced murder is another thing I havent done them yet so I dont know if it is possible to just sneak the quests away
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