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Post by Vallerie on Sept 3, 2017 17:04:48 GMT
Kind of random but...am I the only person who misses channeled Master Strike/Ravage? The instant one just isn't the same. Lacks a certain...oompf. (I'm saying that as someone who primarily played Vigilance Guardian)
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Post by mrjack on Sept 3, 2017 17:43:09 GMT
Kind of random but...am I the only person who misses channeled Master Strike/Ravage? The instant one just isn't the same. Lacks a certain...oompf. (I'm saying that as someone who primarily played Vigilance Guardian) I prefer that the ability isn't channelled because it it would constantly be interrupted but I don't like the new ravage animation either. The Jedi version (blade barrage?) is better than the wack-whack-standing forward tuck of ravage... it's more of a whack-whack-full twisting layout...  Either way, I don't want to go back to channelled abilities on a melee character. It's fine if your 30m away and not getting pummelled but otherwise, no thank you. |
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Post by farferello on Sept 3, 2017 20:13:54 GMT
Kind of random but...am I the only person who misses channeled Master Strike/Ravage? The instant one just isn't the same. Lacks a certain...oompf. (I'm saying that as someone who primarily played Vigilance Guardian) I kinda miss how cool the animation was, but I certainly don't miss enemies constantly interrupting it every time I'd start it. XD Though I think the Jedi version looks/feels cooler than the Sith version does now. I've gotten used to the swing of the rotation change now it's instant. |
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Post by Vallerie on Sept 3, 2017 21:02:58 GMT
Kind of random but...am I the only person who misses channeled Master Strike/Ravage? The instant one just isn't the same. Lacks a certain...oompf. (I'm saying that as someone who primarily played Vigilance Guardian) I kinda miss how cool the animation was, but I certainly don't miss enemies constantly interrupting it every time I'd start it. XD Though I think the Jedi version looks/feels cooler than the Sith version does now. I've gotten used to the swing of the rotation change now it's instant. I guess I will have to get used to it, I haven't played much during KotET. The interruption was annoying when you got knocked back, but there was something special about having this 3 hit channel that just felt...awesome |
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Post by farferello on Sept 4, 2017 8:01:53 GMT
I kinda miss how cool the animation was, but I certainly don't miss enemies constantly interrupting it every time I'd start it. XD Though I think the Jedi version looks/feels cooler than the Sith version does now. I've gotten used to the swing of the rotation change now it's instant. I guess I will have to get used to it, I haven't played much during KotET. The interruption was annoying when you got knocked back, but there was something special about having this 3 hit channel that just felt...awesome It did feel awesome, but on my Sentinel I'd always have to clip it right at the end anyway, so for me I didn't really mind getting rid out it considering it'd route you in place. Getting knocked back/stunned/having to move because of aoe and missing part of the attack because of it got so annoying. It's a shame to lose a cool animation but I don't miss being routed in place as a melee. |
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Post by farferello on Sept 7, 2017 14:05:17 GMT
*Internal screaming.* Okay, so there's no dialogue lines yet, but datamining revealed at least a quest snippet for a certain redeemed Prince. cnv.alliance.camp.arcann.arcann_romance_begin Website LinkI won't get too excited yet, mostly because there's nothing but the breadcrumb starter lines but...  |
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Post by mrjack on Sept 7, 2017 19:01:14 GMT
Okay, so there's no dialogue lines yet, but datamining revealed at least a quest snippet for a certain redeemed Prince. I know I didn't sound very enthused about an Arcann romance before but this is exciting. I can't believe they're adding another male romance. I feel a bit sorry for lesbians and I almost feel sorry for straight guys because for them it's Lana or no-one if you want a relevant romance but straight women and gay guys get THREE choices it seems. |
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Post by Vallerie on Sept 7, 2017 19:13:02 GMT
Okay, so there's no dialogue lines yet, but datamining revealed at least a quest snippet for a certain redeemed Prince. I know I didn't sound very enthused about an Arcann romance before but this is exciting. I can't believe they're adding another male romance. I feel a bit sorry for lesbians and I almost feel sorry for straight guys because for them it's Lana or no-one if you want a relevant romance but straight women and gay guys get THREE choices it seems. Hmmm, it would suck if I didn't like Lana I suppose. But she is pretty unique character in Star Wars, I mean a practical sith with light edge? Plus she is adorable  |
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Post by Ash on Sept 7, 2017 19:27:47 GMT
Arcann romance confirmed with this pic. on a serious note: I don't believe this. master Ranos was datamined as romanceable at one point as well. somebody else too. plus, half of the playerbase killed him and we all know how SWTOR treats characters that may be dead, right? or they will give this romance to that part of the playerbase that has him alive but they will kill off Theron to maintain balance™. Koth way (where he will be killable and will get 0 future content) or just "yeah he's really a traitor". second one would mean bioware austin writing finally reached the bottom which is kinda predictable if you compare agent class story vs. kotet/kotfe, especially considering them obviously making the story for light-sided jedi knight and generally telling non-force users to gtfo. biowur, I just want my nice throne, I don't want to be considered a jerk/nice person purely because I pick throne/table, ffs. pre-obligatory pick-a-side my char was a light-leaning neutral and got Imperius and now he's a tyrant smh. even without destroying half of Zakuul and generally being nice. thaaanks biowur choices matter right.  on a side and good note: finished gearing my sin, still remember nightmare tacs and able to tank them properly. noice.  |
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Post by farferello on Sept 7, 2017 19:31:25 GMT
Okay, so there's no dialogue lines yet, but datamining revealed at least a quest snippet for a certain redeemed Prince. I know I didn't sound very enthused about an Arcann romance before but this is exciting. I can't believe they're adding another male romance. I feel a bit sorry for lesbians and I almost feel sorry for straight guys because for them it's Lana or no-one if you want a relevant romance but straight women and gay guys get THREE choices it seems. Honestly I don't feel too bad for the straight guys as some classes do get two romance options and they get multiple flirt/fade to black options throughout class quests. I do feel sorry for lesbian/bi woman who still only have Lana (and Lemda? from Republic Makeb doesn't really count) I'm just hoping if they do go ahead with this and it doesn't get cut (Bioware are known for cutting stuff previously datamined, like the Darth Marr thing) that he's an option for both genders. I'd be pretty pissed if he and the Commander can move past their history of trying to kill each other, but oh, you're a dude and that's one step too far.  I fully expect them to half ass it though. Honestly they'd need a lot of time and build up (like you had with Lana and Theron over SOR and onward) for it to feel like it fit. But I guess we'll see. |
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Post by farferello on Sept 7, 2017 19:36:43 GMT
Arcann romance confirmed with this pic. on a serious note: I don't believe this. master Ranos was datamined as romanceable at one point as well. somebody else too. plus, half of the playerbase killed him and we all know how SWTOR treats characters that may be dead, right? or they will give this romance to that part of the playerbase that has him alive but they will kill off Theron to maintain balance™. Koth way (where he will be killable and will get 0 future content) or just "yeah he's really a traitor". second one would mean bioware austin writing finally reached the bottom which is kinda predictable if you compare agent class story vs. kotet/kotfe, especially considering them obviously making the story for light-sided jedi knight and generally telling non-force users to gtfo. biowur, I just want my nice throne, I don't want to be considered a jerk/nice person purely because I pick throne/table, ffs. pre-obligatory pick-a-side my char was a light-leaning neutral and got Imperius and now he's a tyrant smh. even without destroying half of Zakuul and generally being nice. thaaanks biowur choices matter right. on a side and good note: finished gearing my sin, still remember nightmare tacs and able to tank them properly. noice. Yeah it's very possible it might not happen or get cut but considering I already use head canon for him and my Consular, it gives me a little hope, and if nothing comes of it then I still have head canon. But apparently Bioware have stated that them being killable doesn't rule them out and they plan to continue doing things with those characters. I take that with a grain of salt though considering how lacking in content current killable characters have. As for the throne, I do think it's a dumb choice they gated it behind light/dark. You could easily take the Throne but still act like the Peacekeeping counterpart, you don't have to automatically be some evil tyrant just because you took the throne the game kept trying to force on you anyway. Half of my characters want nothing to do with the damn thing. |
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Post by Ash on Sept 7, 2017 19:38:53 GMT
srsly tho, the only thing that gives me butthurt to this day is that you can be light 5 and pick lightside decisions only, but if you want a throne then you're automatically a bad guy.
you pick a throne and then go to Iokath storyline Theron says smth like "m'lord we have some civilians protesting should we bomb them as usual or are you feeling generous today" and I'm sorry WHAT.
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Post by Ash on Sept 7, 2017 19:41:19 GMT
seriously speaking, my assassin has nothing to do with kotfe/kotet storyline and this is the only thing that gives me peace. RP saves me from bioware once again, no 5 years in carbonite, no throne is BAD table is GOOD bullshit.
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Post by farferello on Sept 7, 2017 19:51:36 GMT
srsly tho, the only thing that gives me butthurt to this day is that you can be light 5 and pick lightside decisions only, but if you want a throne then you're automatically a bad guy. you pick a throne and then go to Iokath storyline Theron says smth like "m'lord we have some civilians protesting should we bomb them as usual or are you feeling generous today" and I'm sorry WHAT. I've never taken the throne option so I had no idea Theron spoke like that on the Iokath bit, ugh that's awful. :/ It's a shame the game ignores everything else you've done to railroad you for one decision. The game has a serious case of black and white for some issues. Taking the Throne honestly should never have had a dark/light option to begin with considering everyone was telling you, you needed to take the damn thing. Though honestly I hated Iokath for railroading me into picking Republic or Empire when we'd spent so long building up our Alliance but PLOT-REASON we can't pick our Alliance and instead have to make a damn choice. I'm somewhat worried as both my Inquisitor's chose Republic and I worry Andronikus and Ashara may just pull an Elara and tell them to fuck off because of it. At least my Warrior's were able to keep Quinn when they picked Republic. |
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Post by Ash on Sept 8, 2017 6:09:19 GMT
farferello Quinn is kind of non-existent on non-Warrior characters. Like, you see him for 1 second on Iokath, then he disappears until the CHOICE™. Even if you pick the Empire, he's non-existent too - literally zero mentions of him outside of him saying "yeah noice". And then you notice him in your companions. Excuse me, what? What if I never had warrior, Bioware? Am I just supposed to be like "oh some strange guy joins me after 2 phrases but it's ok, despite me having no idea who he is"? But yeah, system auto-counting you as a tyrant and bad guy™ just because you want a goddamn red chair instead of having to stand on your own near a blue table is so fucking awful. Heya, Darth Imperius, your decisions matter, right? Well, except they don't, have fun. My assassin literally is the only one character that managed to keep Koth around (so no destructions on Zakuul), saved Senya and Arcann, etc.. But he's a tyrant because he wanted a throne. Meanwhile, my vanguard and pt generally burned everything to the ground and both sit on dark 5, but they picked the table... and voilà, they're the nice guys. Bioware why.  Also, I still don't get why Republic/Empire is light/dark choice too. What the fuck, srsly. If my character grew in the Empire and just generally treats it as a home - not the best one, but home which he loves... somehow choosing to ally with it is a darkside choice. Especially fun for BHs where republic is shown as a corrupted clusterfuck who did nothing but bad to them.
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Post by farferello on Sept 8, 2017 9:27:45 GMT
farferello Quinn is kind of non-existent on non-Warrior characters. Like, you see him for 1 second on Iokath, then he disappears until the CHOICE™. Even if you pick the Empire, he's non-existent too - literally zero mentions of him outside of him saying "yeah noice". And then you notice him in your companions. Excuse me, what? What if I never had warrior, Bioware? Am I just supposed to be like "oh some strange guy joins me after 2 phrases but it's ok, despite me having no idea who he is"? But yeah, system auto-counting you as a tyrant and bad guy™ just because you want a goddamn red chair instead of having to stand on your own near a blue table is so fucking awful. Heya, Darth Imperius, your decisions matter, right? Well, except they don't, have fun. My assassin literally is the only one character that managed to keep Koth around (so no destructions on Zakuul), saved Senya and Arcann, etc.. But he's a tyrant because he wanted a throne. Meanwhile, my vanguard and pt generally burned everything to the ground and both sit on dark 5, but they picked the table... and voilà, they're the nice guys. Bioware why. Also, I still don't get why Republic/Empire is light/dark choice too. What the fuck, srsly. If my character grew in the Empire and just generally treats it as a home - not the best one, but home which he loves... somehow choosing to ally with it is a darkside choice. Especially fun for BHs where republic is shown as a corrupted clusterfuck who did nothing but bad to them. Oh I know. I'm not saying the reunion with Quinn was anything to write home about, but at least I still got to keep him, regardless of who I sided with. But with Quinn I'm not surprised there's so little content considering how many people were screaming for his death - but the fact they brought Elara back in the same sense of not giving her much content, and letting her walk out on you just... yeah. But the same goes for Elara joining you as a non Trooper. You don't even get a chat, when I first did Iokath on my Warrior I didn't even realize I'd gotten her as a companion until I was summoning a different companion and saw her in the long, long list of them (I really wish we could close off certain sections on the companion/contact list and not have them auto open again because ugh.) It also sounds like Vector is coming back through an Alliance Alert at some point, so that's three romance options brought back in meh ways. I wish they'd thought through how exactly they'd bring companions back in meaningful ways before they took them from us. Having some show up and accompany us in KOTFE chapters was great, but the Alliance Alerts were incredibly lame. Not to mention that they've just completely dropped the ball on Lord Scourge. I had him with my Knight for the entirety of the Shadow of Revan stuff and nothing. Yeah it's so silly how some decisions are with the light and dark system, especially when it comes to the Throne. Though I've always hated the system when leveling because of how stupid a lot of the light side choices can be (because unleashing a psychopathic Sith on the Galaxy with no one to hold her reins is totally a Light side choice. Any of my Imps that do Taris planet story always end up with Dark side points because of that nonsense.) I just hate that Iokath decision so much. Most of my Sith were happy to jump ship to the Republic for various reasons, but my Jedi were a lot more burnt out over the Order/Republic in general (especially my Knight) but they wouldn't join the Empire so were still stuck with the Republic instead of ya know, their own Alliance third party. |
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Post by farferello on Sept 9, 2017 14:18:54 GMT
Well apparently his VA has confirmed it. Now I have to hold onto the hope that he's available to both genders.
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Post by mrjack on Sept 10, 2017 2:49:40 GMT
Well apparently his VA has confirmed it. Now I have to hold onto the hope that he's available to both genders.
(I've no idea how to embed the twitter info fully so here's the link.) Holy crap. I honestly can't imagine he won't be available to males. We all got the come-on email. Now I'm wondering if there is anyway for my shadow to dump Koth and take up with Arcann. I made the stupid, stupid mistake of getting with him and I really regret it. I haven't don't KOTET yet on him. Can I still kill him if he didn't steal the Gravestone? My shadow's quite dark but it would be a bit twisted even for him but I'm willing to do it anyway if it means getting rid of his annoying bf who can't stop thinking of Denon and thinks he can outrace me....  |
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Post by farferello on Sept 10, 2017 8:55:18 GMT
Holy crap. I honestly can't imagine he won't be available to males. We all got the come-on email. Now I'm wondering if there is anyway for my shadow to dump Koth and take up with Arcann. I made the stupid, stupid mistake of getting with him and I really regret it. I haven't don't KOTET yet on him. Can I still kill him if he didn't steal the Gravestone? My shadow's quite dark but it would be a bit twisted even for him but I'm willing to do it anyway if it means getting rid of his annoying bf who can't stop thinking of Denon and thinks he can outrace me.... It would honestly be pretty dumb of them to gender gate him. Neither male or female characters have had a male force user to romance (and you really can't compare Lord Cytharat considering even if you do save him from Lava he disappears from the game after Makeb is done. You can't include him as a true romance ) and Arcann does send the flirty letters to both genders. And I have you. Kills me every time I read it. (Though my Consular would like to sit him down and be all 'yeah, saying you're a weapon I can use is not healthy, I'm not your father.' But that likely comes from his upbringing where Arcann has no idea how to act or be, if he's not being used as a tool. Some of the dialogue he says is pretty heartbreaking and shows even more how much of a messed up childhood they all had.) But no, you can't kill Koth if he never left you. The only option I ever got is a dark side option to punch him instead. (Though I never took the mean options with him so idk if it's hidden under some other dialogue, but I doubt it.) But being in a relationship has never stopped characters from flirting with others before, so who knows. I do wonder how they'd approach the romance, it'll likely be done with your character initiating the flirts which could be awkward. My Consular has never flirted in his life, he probably doesn't know how. |
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Post by Vallerie on Sept 10, 2017 10:54:25 GMT
Holy crap. I honestly can't imagine he won't be available to males. We all got the come-on email. Now I'm wondering if there is anyway for my shadow to dump Koth and take up with Arcann. I made the stupid, stupid mistake of getting with him and I really regret it. I haven't don't KOTET yet on him. Can I still kill him if he didn't steal the Gravestone? My shadow's quite dark but it would be a bit twisted even for him but I'm willing to do it anyway if it means getting rid of his annoying bf who can't stop thinking of Denon and thinks he can outrace me.... It would honestly be pretty dumb of them to gender gate him. Neither male or female characters have had a male force user to romance (and you really can't compare Lord Cytharat considering even if you do save him from Lava he disappears from the game after Makeb is done. You can't include him as a true romance ) and Arcann does send the flirty letters to both genders. And I have you. Kills me every time I read it. (Though my Consular would like to sit him down and be all 'yeah, saying you're a weapon I can use is not healthy, I'm not your father.' But that likely comes from his upbringing where Arcann has no idea how to act or be, if he's not being used as a tool. Some of the dialogue he says is pretty heartbreaking and shows even more how much of a messed up childhood they all had.) But no, you can't kill Koth if he never left you. The only option I ever got is a dark side option to punch him instead. (Though I never took the mean options with him so idk if it's hidden under some other dialogue, but I doubt it.) But being in a relationship has never stopped characters from flirting with others before, so who knows. it'll likely be done with your character initiating the flirts which could be awkward. My Consular has never flirted in his life, he probably doesn't know how. Why this way of course  (I doubt it) |
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