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Post by phantomrachie on Jul 27, 2017 19:15:21 GMT
People are talking about a comic and I'm like...why couldn't it have been a book. With words  A) finding untranslated comic (hell, even a translated one) is a bitch around here B) I hate episodical releases of pretty much anything C) it's expensive to get a whole story. Maybe I'm old fashioned, idk. Not a fan of comics (unless I can read them on the internet using the...free way  ) I tend to buy trades. That way I get a whole story arch and it's cheaper. I only buy single issues on comixology cos again cheaper and I don't have a fuck ton of comics lying around my house. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 1:31:28 GMT
Meanwhile I'm quietly waiting for hints into the world-state post Trespasser. So far it seems like they are being pretty careful about throwing anything out. Le sigh  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 7:37:40 GMT
Just FYI to bump the thread, the next issue comes out on the 16th.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 9:04:03 GMT
Latest issue is out. I hope that they're not going to continue this red lyrium thing into the next game... I know it's still around and all, but I'd like to move on a bit. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 4:29:18 GMT
I don't know about anyone else, but I think they've done a good job with Varric's "voice." I think he sounds like Varric.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 13:13:39 GMT
Just read the latest issue. I'm really enjoying the story. I like that it's a more personal story and Vaea and her knight are deeper characters than Marius and Tessa, and the story ties in well to the previous games. I agree with @nightscrawl that I don't want the red lyrium drama to be a major part of future games, but it's not overshadowed the comic so far. My one gripe about this issue (which for me is really good) is Sebastian is so passive and almost not a character here. I wonder if the writer wasn't a fan of Sebastian in DA2, because he's taking on Elthina-level qualities of passivity. He just sits there when Varric and the Orlesian are arguing over Ser Aaron and asks Varric for help without doing anything himself. He just feels...there. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 13:32:25 GMT
Just read the latest issue. I'm really enjoying the story. I like that it's a more personal story and Vaea and her knight are deeper characters than Marius and Tessa, and the story ties in well to the previous games. I agree with @nightscrawl that I don't want the red lyrium drama to be a major part of future games, but it's not overshadowed the comic so far. My one gripe about this issue (which for me is really good) is Sebastian is so passive and almost not a character here. I wonder if the writer wasn't a fan of Sebastian in DA2, because he's taking on Elthina-level qualities of passivity. He just sits there when Varric and the Orlesian are arguing over Ser Aaron and asks Varric for help without doing anything himself. He just feels...there. I know! I was actually surprised to see him in the scene at that one point. Like, "Wait, he was there the whole time??" I thought he wasn't present for some reason. Sebastian sucks as a leader, and after he was so hot to get back his city and his title.  While Varric's role is okay, even if I am over the character at this point, these comics aren't doing cameos very well. Charter has been okay in both comic series because we don't actually know anything about her as a person, and her role in DAI was brief. I thought Dorian's cameo in Magekiller was utterly pointless. But I've gotta say that the Tevinter angle in this issue piqued my interest and I hope that is further developed. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 15:27:03 GMT
Just read the latest issue. I'm really enjoying the story. I like that it's a more personal story and Vaea and her knight are deeper characters than Marius and Tessa, and the story ties in well to the previous games. I agree with @nightscrawl that I don't want the red lyrium drama to be a major part of future games, but it's not overshadowed the comic so far. My one gripe about this issue (which for me is really good) is Sebastian is so passive and almost not a character here. I wonder if the writer wasn't a fan of Sebastian in DA2, because he's taking on Elthina-level qualities of passivity. He just sits there when Varric and the Orlesian are arguing over Ser Aaron and asks Varric for help without doing anything himself. He just feels...there. I know! I was actually surprised to see him in the scene at that one point. Like, "Wait, he was there the whole time??" I thought he wasn't present for some reason. Sebastian sucks as a leader, and after he was so hot to get back his city and his title. While Varric's role is okay, even if I am over the character at this point, these comics aren't doing cameos very well. Charter has been okay in both comic series because we don't actually know anything about her as a person, and her role in DAI was brief. I thought Dorian's cameo in Magekiller was utterly pointless. But I've gotta say that the Tevinter angle in this issue piqued my interest and I hope that is further developed. Yeah I'm okay with this being Varric's last in person appearance in DA. I assume we'll read more about him in DA4 but they need to stop relying on him as the rogue everyman.
His voice, as you say, is spot on but he's taking too much screen time when it's Vaea and Ser Aaron who should get more. I do think the time spent on the two new characters was done well, though.
And I'm still holding out hope that since Tessa and Marius made an appearance, their characters will be fleshed out, either in further comics or in a game. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Aug 22, 2017 11:24:17 GMT
Alright, it's time for more shitposting. I'm reading the latest chapters. - Reading Varric list off why the knight guy is so special in-universe is not exactly making me think the guy is special.
Really, all they're doing is taking a popular character and using him to prop up the author's glorified OC. - "oozed from your fetid tongue" Oooh, they brought out the thesaurus for that one. Remind me to save that for the next time I'm having one of those internet arguments
- Has it really taken people this long to suspect he and his squire's travels are connected to the thievings in those areas? This has been going on for, what? Months? Years? I guess things work differently in medieval fantasyland
Ok, so one, "Marius' " as in... the plural possessive form, so Marius is actually multiple people. They're three people stacked together in a person suit. One guy does the longterm thinking and strategy. Another handles the money. The third is a small child. He grows. He thinks. He feels. Sometimes, he learns.- And, second, this is confirmation that both these characters have messy handwriting. Meaning they both can write. Which brings me to the line of thought that they're all writing in the Common Tongue, right? But, while we don't know all that much about Nevarra (which I'm guessing is where Tessa is from), we do know that the Imperium isn't monolingual, meaning the Common Tongue could for all we know be
Marius's Marius' second language. So give him a break, Vaea. Hell, considering how medieval Europe was, we should be glad these jokers can even write. Hell, now I'm wondering how Vaea even knows how to read. - Is standardized education a thing in Thedas? Who's teaching all these poor people to read? The Chantry? I mean, Sera was raised by a rich noblewoman, so she at least has an excuse. Zevran was trained to be an assassin, so I'm assuming that included a rudimentary education (basic arithmetic, reading, writing, dodgeball, all that stuff that haunted 6-year-old me in my nightmares). I know Thedas is hundreds of years ahead of medieval times in our Europe when it comes to various -isms, but would education be too when there's no evidence of a widespread education system beyond the Circles and a University in Orlais that only just recently admitted an elf for the first time? Sure, Alistair mentions some Chantry education, but what happens to Alienage elves if the Chantry is outside the Alienage proper and therefore inaccessible or at least inconvenient? What happens in rural areas where the Chantry is gonna be too far of a walk to go to school for?
 Info on Red Lyrium research in his bedchamber And who do we know has a whole personal quest in DA:I about learning the secrets of Red Lyrium? And is also in Starkhaven staying with Prince Sebastian? And has a vitriolic relationship with him where Sebastian aches for his friendship while Varric pushes him away? A relationship in which... perhaps..... alcohol may bring forth some uncomfortable truths about the nature of their feelings.... You know where I'm going with this. - CONGRATULATE VARRIC, VAEA, SOMEONE GOT LAID.
- I have never seen so many fictional dead bodies since that time I summoned infinite dragons in Skyrim.
- "Who'd like a drink I know I would" Varric, we all know now that you've had far too much.
- "Varric please" Hmmmmmm "help an old friend out" Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmt
- Did Sebastian just use the word "dominate" in front of Varric? -x files theme again-
- "I know we were never close, but I need you
r help" "I know how you feel" Damn, this imaginary subplot in my head has more pathos than the main plot. - Oh. It's.... that guy as the mastermind Really? The author must really, really hate turn of the century archaeologists.
- Okay, archaeologist dude, when you start talking like you're a villain straight from a Saturday Cartoon, you need to take a step back and reflect on your life choices.
- That thing about pretending to be dead among the corpses is actually something people irl do in similar situations where there's a mass homocide. Supposedly.
- If you live in Thedas, let's be real, there's probably a lot of playing dead. Without the internet, there's not much else to do.
- Next on Knight Errant: Vaea critiques Sebastian's interior decorating
- See, kids, you don't need to go to fancy schools to know good decor from bad. I wonder if Interior Decorating is a major at University of Orlais. They're admitting elves now; maybe Vaea stands a chance for admission!
- Is the University tuition as much a scam in Thedas as it is in the US? I guess they can probably charge whatever they want, considering they seem to be the one option.
- She was caught red handed! And, for once, she's not even the bad guy here. Funny how life works, eh?
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Yeah, that was my reaction when Weekes said Iron Bull was a Slytherin, too. - Her employer guy to the rescue! He's only 99% useless, remember.
- And that ends that. I mean, we all know that was a total cliffhanger, but are we actually wondering whether they'll eventually end up on good terms again? We all know the formula by now.
- Predictions: Varric and Sebastian confess their feelings for eachother, but a misunderstanding drives them apart. Vaea and her boss guy have The Talk. Archaeologist guy gets back his letter of acceptance into the League of Villainy written by GraySkull personally; he's advised to "tone it down a notch."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 12:20:56 GMT
Tessa is nobility, so she most certainly can read and write. The phrase doesn't necessarily suggest that Marius can read or write, just that those are their notes as a unit/team; they gathered that intelligence together. I don't recall from Magekiller whether Marius is depicted as being literate, or if that's addressed at all. In addition, I don't see anything there that suggests that either or both of their handwriting is poor. Vaea makes the statement because she is having to depend on someone else, instead of gathering her own intelligence, as she normally does, since she works alone.
I looked it up before posting. In Magekiller #1, Tessa offers to read an injured Marius one of Varric's books. She specifically refers to Marius as "struggling with literacy," which suggests he has (at that point, before Inquisition starts) basic skills, but that's all at the moment. Keep in mind that Marius was a slave, like Fenris, who was also illiterate. I don't know how much further along he might be by this time, since they're necessarily kept busy with Inquisition missions.
As for the ending... I don't know, I'm almost wondering if Ser Aaron knew all along.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 12:54:50 GMT
I guess I would headcanon that Ser Aaron taught Vaea to read, as it's likely that most city elves wouldn't be literate. And perhaps the reason no one caught the trail of thefts until now is that they were so interspersed over a long period of time that it was only recently that the common element of Ser Aaron and Vaea could be traced. Weak reasoning but that's what I'm going with. If Ser Aaron is attending large functions like he has at Kirkwall and Starkhaven, it would be hard to pinpoint who is the thief when there are large numbers of outsiders present. Only when comparing all thefts over the course of a year or two would the trail become obvious.
I wouldn't be surprised if Ser Aaron knew all along but didn't mind since she wasn't getting caught and she was giving the proceeds of said larceny to the poor. But now she's got some splaining to do with all those dead guards!
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Aug 22, 2017 18:54:35 GMT
Tessa is nobility, so she most certainly can read and write. The phrase doesn't necessarily suggest that Marius can read or write, just that those are their notes as a unit/team; they gathered that intelligence together. I don't recall from Magekiller whether Marius is depicted as being literate, or if that's addressed at all. In addition, I don't see anything there that suggests that either or both of their handwriting is poor. Vaea makes the statement because she is having to depend on someone else, instead of gathering her own intelligence, as she normally does, since she works alone. I looked it up before posting. In Magekiller #1, Tessa offers to read an injured Marius one of Varric's books. She specifically refers to Marius as "struggling with literacy," which suggests he has (at that point, before Inquisition starts) basic skills, but that's all at the moment. Keep in mind that Marius was a slave, like Fenris, who was also illiterate. I don't know how much further along he might be by this time, since they're necessarily kept busy with Inquisition missions. As for the ending... I don't know, I'm almost wondering if Ser Aaron knew all along. Yeah, I read it when I was sleep-deprived and off my meds.  Not sure why I thought it was saying their handwriting is bad. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 18:34:25 GMT
Last issue is out September 13.
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Post by vertigomez on Sept 4, 2017 16:41:53 GMT
Literacy in DA is kind of wonky. Actual bound books, scrolls, signage, etc. seem way more common and accessible in Thedas than they would be in medieval Europe. I figure the proliferation of books indicates more literacy than you'd expect from your average Joe Peasant. There are signs in the Denerim alienage barring elves from carrying weapons, so I assume most of them can read or that'd be kind of useless. (Unless that's the point. Or maybe there are pictures?)
Anyway, I'm really enjoying this comic. I like Vaea and Ser Aaron. I'm still confused by Vaea's zany goat pupils. I like that Sebastian hasn't been forgotten about even if his character here is kinda flimsy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 10:29:07 GMT
Read the latest, and final, issue. Totally not surprised that Ser Aaron knew all along. If people weren't convinced that we're going to Tevinter even more after this ending, that's some major denial.
I'm not totally pleased. While I thought the Tevinter angle was interesting story-wise, I don't like the strong implication that they will be in the next game, possibly as followers. I wouldn't mind NPCs, I suppose, but I don't want followers to be introduced in ancillary materials. I can excuse Cole because his DAI-self was practically a different person due to the events at the end of Asunder, but in general it's not something I want. I want to be surprised when I meet some new person, not think, "Oh, it's her from the comic." =/
At any rate, it was a fun run, and I liked the ending. vertigomez I finally saw what you're talking about with the goat pupils! LOL! Yeah... that's weird. It's not an elf thing, either, since Charter is normal.  |
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Post by vertigomez on Sept 14, 2017 6:08:41 GMT
I finally saw what you're talking about with the goat pupils! LOL! Yeah... that's weird. It's not an elf thing, either, since Charter is normal. Right? What a weird design decision. No other elves have goofy pupils. Do not like. In other news I kind of want Ser Aaron to be my grandpa. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Dec 18, 2017 19:55:42 GMT
Oh, yeah, I gotta do the last issue.
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Not sure why I thought it was saying their handwriting is bad.
Much love right back at ya!
