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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 13:02:45 GMT
Has anyone read the first issue of the new comic series yet? Since it's new I will post everything in spoilers including thoughts of the issue, predictions, and summary. {Spoiler}
It might be the art style but Varric looks a bit like a creep. It's the heavy stubble, black in the comic but generally lighter in the games, and his constant grin which make him look oily. And his nickname for Vaea, Fingers, seems a bit creepy. And he kisses her hand which...I just don't envision Varric ever doing. Unless it's to subtly mock a fancy Orlesian like the de Launcets.
And while it's totally in character for Viscount Tethras to want to avoid a royal retinue wherever he goes, I think it would have made sense for a throw away line about him sneaking away from his entourage whenever he is on his own. He's at the docks by himself and alone in Lowtown at night, which seems like something Aveline would never allow.
Ser Aaron seems like a really fun character. I wonder how much he knows/authorizes Vaea's nighttime activities and how much he is oblivious to. I thought it was pretty funny that his stories both involved him getting between warring parties and serving as peacemaker.
Finally, I was surprised that Meredith's red lyrium statue hasn't spread to the rest of the Gallows. Given the war table reports on Kirkwall having red lyrium everywhere I feel this was an artistic oversight. It seems like overkill to make the Gallows so forbidden if it's just the one lyrium statue. I wanted to see clumps around the entire courtyard. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 16, 2017 20:20:55 GMT
I have a weird suspicion that Vaea might show up in DA4 that isn't based on anything more than my own hunch.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 20:26:06 GMT
I think so; I have a feeling that most of the major new characters from any comics between DAI and DA4 will have some form of presence in DA4. Otherwise Magekiller will have been completely useless.
But they might have cameo appearances like Michel and the Dalish elf in the Hinterlands whose name I can't even remember she's so minor. Which was disappointing after reading The Masked Empire where it felt like they were going to be major characters in the game.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 21:06:10 GMT
{Spoiler}I like this art more than the art for Magekiller. Right now, there hasn't been enough to tell whether Vaea will be likable (to me), but she also doesn't seem unlikable at this point.
The appearance by Varric (again!) is somewhat irksome, but the actual content isn't too bad. If they move away from Kirkwall, it might just be a minor appearance. Sadly, we didn't see much of the city in this first issue. BUT we did get to see the red, glowing, frozen form of Meredith, still haunting the Gallows.
The appearance of Charter at the end was surprising. This apparently takes place after Trespasser, so the new low-key Inquisition is in full swing. From the way it ended, I assume we'll have to wait until next issue to really get into the meat of the series.
I'm sort of hoping we'll get an update on Tessa and Marius, even though that was written by a different team, especially since Tessa and Charter are together. It will have been two years since we last saw them, so I'm curious. I think so; I have a feeling that most of the major new characters from any comics between DAI and DA4 will have some form of presence in DA4. Otherwise Magekiller will have been completely useless. But they might have cameo appearances like Michel and the Dalish elf in the Hinterlands whose name I can't even remember she's so minor. Which was disappointing after reading The Masked Empire where it felt like they were going to be major characters in the game. Wait... what Dalish elf in the Hinterlands? No name is fine, but what is the context of her appearance? Apparently my memory is so poor that I didn't even make the connection to a Masked Empire character.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 21:45:57 GMT
{Spoiler}I like this art more than the art for Magekiller. Right now, there hasn't been enough to tell whether Vaea will be likable (to me), but she also doesn't seem unlikable at this point.
The appearance by Varric (again!) is somewhat irksome, but the actual content isn't too bad. If they move away from Kirkwall, it might just be a minor appearance. Sadly, we didn't see much of the city in this first issue. BUT we did get to see the red, glowing, frozen form of Meredith, still haunting the Gallows.
The appearance of Charter at the end was surprising. This apparently takes place after Trespasser, so the new low-key Inquisition is in full swing. From the way it ended, I assume we'll have to wait until next issue to really get into the meat of the series.
I'm sort of hoping we'll get an update on Tessa and Marius, even though that was written by a different team, especially since Tessa and Charter are together. It will have been two years since we last saw them, so I'm curious. I think so; I have a feeling that most of the major new characters from any comics between DAI and DA4 will have some form of presence in DA4. Otherwise Magekiller will have been completely useless. But they might have cameo appearances like Michel and the Dalish elf in the Hinterlands whose name I can't even remember she's so minor. Which was disappointing after reading The Masked Empire where it felt like they were going to be major characters in the game. Wait... what Dalish elf in the Hinterlands? No name is fine, but what is the context of her appearance? Apparently my memory is so poor that I didn't even make the connection to a Masked Empire character. No offense to Laidlaw but I don't think he is as on top of lore and timelines as he really should be. There are a few reasons why the comic indicates it's set between DAI proper and Trespasser. {Spoiler}
Varric is only now being crowned viscount so unless he was named viscount but not crowned in Trespasser it doesn't really make sense. Plus I don't think Charter should be boldly wearing Inquisition uniform and telling a complete stranger about the Inquisition as if it's still a functioning organisation if it is publicly dissolved or part of the Chantry. Perhaps it's necessary in order to identify Charter since she isn't a major or unique character, and the point of the comic is to tie in DAI, but it seems like an oversight or plot mistake.
And Varric's codex in Trespasser says they finally removed the Meredith statue from the Gallows, which hasn't occurred here yet. But there is no red lyrium spreading so Cullen's troops may have been actively clearing it out and saving the statue for last. I looked up her name, it's Mihris. The one in Solas' side quest in the Hinterlands where we learn about Veilfire. She was the Dalish elf from the hostile clan in The Masked Empire who survived. She and Michel and Imshael were very disappointing cameos that were built up from the book to be more than what they turned out to be. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 16, 2017 21:48:25 GMT
I think so; I have a feeling that most of the major new characters from any comics between DAI and DA4 will have some form of presence in DA4. Otherwise Magekiller will have been completely useless. But they might have cameo appearances like Michel and the Dalish elf in the Hinterlands whose name I can't even remember she's so minor. Which was disappointing after reading The Masked Empire where it felt like they were going to be major characters in the game. This is a long shot, but I'll just throw it out there: Vaea could be a future companion/love interest. We've had a lesbian elf, a few bisexual elves (2 dudes, 1 girl), and a "straight" male elf. They'll probably have a straight female elf love interest sooner or later. Then again, they could also just give her a small cameo and be done with it. Or maybe she dies in this comic and is never mentioned again. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 21:56:22 GMT
I think so; I have a feeling that most of the major new characters from any comics between DAI and DA4 will have some form of presence in DA4. Otherwise Magekiller will have been completely useless. But they might have cameo appearances like Michel and the Dalish elf in the Hinterlands whose name I can't even remember she's so minor. Which was disappointing after reading The Masked Empire where it felt like they were going to be major characters in the game. This is a long shot, but I'll just throw it out there: Vaea could be a future companion/love interest. We've had a lesbian elf, a few bisexual elves (2 dudes, 1 girl), and a "straight" male elf. They'll probably have a straight female elf love interest sooner or later. Then again, they could also just give her a small cameo and be done with it. Or maybe she dies in this comic and is never mentioned again. I don't think that's a long shot! Or if not a companion, an Inquisition agent on a level like Harding. I think Bioware is going to find as many reasons as possible to bring as many Fereldans into Tevinter; the setting originated with the pseudo-Anglo medieval fantasy flavor, and they have heavily relied on it for each game. DA2 is set in the Free Marches but the PC is Ferelden and a lot of the story is about Ferelden refugees. The culture of the Free Marches and Kirkwall is not explored nearly as much as Ferelden culture was. DAI has a split between Orlais and Ferelden but feels to me to have a bias in favor of Ferelden; Orlesians are still caricature French fops and not a lot of time is spent learning more about Orlesian culture than what we already knew. So even though Tevinter is probably the most distinct country in the setting apart from Fereldan and Orlais at this point, I feel like they're going to want to have Fereldan still be the comfort area and keep Tevinter as exotic outsider status. If anything, I would think one of the Magekiller characters will be killed off in DA4. Or else they will be minor characters seen offscreen like Rhys and Evangeline. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 21:59:57 GMT
Frankly, I'd prefer that they not have key characters that are introduced in ancillary material. As much as I think Maevaris is potentially great, I think it's a shame, and annoying, that players have to read the comics to get that bit of backstory.
But that's the thing these days, so I just have to roll with it. It's one reason I fell out of watching the Marvel movies. In order to get the full experience you have to watch ALL THE THINGS, and it's just not worth it to me.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 22:02:01 GMT
This is a long shot, but I'll just throw it out there: Vaea could be a future companion/love interest. We've had a lesbian elf, a few bisexual elves (2 dudes, 1 girl), and a "straight" male elf. They'll probably have a straight female elf love interest sooner or later. Then again, they could also just give her a small cameo and be done with it. Or maybe she dies in this comic and is never mentioned again. I don't think that's a long shot! Or if not a companion, an Inquisition agent on a level like Harding. I think Bioware is going to find as many reasons as possible to bring as many Fereldans into Tevinter; the setting originated with the pseudo-Anglo medieval fantasy flavor, and they have heavily relied on it for each game. DA2 is set in the Free Marches but the PC is Ferelden and a lot of the story is about Ferelden refugees. The culture of the Free Marches and Kirkwall is not explored nearly as much as Ferelden culture was. DAI has a split between Orlais and Ferelden but feels to me to have a bias in favor of Ferelden; Orlesians are still caricature French fops and not a lot of time is spent learning more about Orlesian culture than what we already knew. So even though Tevinter is probably the most distinct country in the setting apart from Fereldan and Orlais at this point, I feel like they're going to want to have Fereldan still be the comfort area and keep Tevinter as exotic outsider status. If anything, I would think one of the Magekiller characters will be killed off in DA4. Or else they will be minor characters seen offscreen like Rhys and Evangeline. *Groooooooaaaaaannnnn.* I hate that you're probably right. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 22:12:16 GMT
Frankly, I'd prefer that they not have key characters that are introduced in ancillary material. As much as I think Maevaris is potentially great, I think it's a shame, and annoying, that players have to read the comics to get that bit of backstory. But that's the thing these days, so I just have to roll with it. It's one reason I fell out of watching the Marvel movies. In order to get the full experience you have to watch ALL THE THINGS, and it's just not worth it to me. I agree in that games should not be relying on ancillary materials to flesh it out, like I felt happened in WEWH. And Cole's backstory for the most part. Having Rhys and Evangeline on the war table felt like a missed opportunity and I wonder if players who hadn't read Asunder didn't get as much of an impact. But if we only learn a tiny bit about a character in a book or comic and then the character is greatly expanded upon in the game I don't mind as much. Since new characters introduced in a comic series are not going to be as fleshed out as Cole was in Asunder, I don't think people who didn't read the comics will be at a disadvantage if Vaea is a DA4 companion. It's kind of like if Vivienne had a mini series about her time in Celene's court before DAI came out; it might help provide more context for her story but it wouldn't have told anything the game didn't already. I will be open to the idea of these comic characters reappearing in a significant way in the game. And if they're minor cameos I won't be as disappointed as I was with the novel characters who felt like wasted potential. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 16, 2017 22:15:30 GMT
I was gonna post something speculative about DA4 that you guys inspired but I'll post it in either the DA4 thread or the Lore thread.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 1:51:49 GMT
Next one is June 14, FYI.
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Post by firmicute on May 18, 2017 15:44:41 GMT
ugh, wished that shit was easier to get in germany
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Post by Scottphoto on May 18, 2017 15:46:09 GMT
ugh, wished that shit was easier to get in germany Yeah I can't find any comics or books of games over here either. I can amazon but its just not the same. |
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Post by gayhawke on May 18, 2017 19:19:32 GMT
ugh, wished that shit was easier to get in germany |
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Post by firmicute on May 18, 2017 21:47:11 GMT
aeh. thats a nice blue sentence, is it supposed to do something ?:3
because nothing happens when i click on it.
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Post by gayhawke on May 18, 2017 21:50:22 GMT
aeh. thats a nice blue sentence, is it supposed to do something ?:3 because nothing happens when i click on it. guess I shouldn't try linking to stuff from my phone  I fixed it now |
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Post by firmicute on May 18, 2017 22:08:41 GMT
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Post by algaeabomination on May 18, 2017 23:18:11 GMT
This is a long shot, but I'll just throw it out there: Vaea could be a future companion/love interest. We've had a lesbian elf, a few bisexual elves (2 dudes, 1 girl), and a "straight" male elf. They'll probably have a straight female elf love interest sooner or later. Then again, they could also just give her a small cameo and be done with it. Or maybe she dies in this comic and is never mentioned again. I don't think that's a long shot! Or if not a companion, an Inquisition agent on a level like Harding. I think Bioware is going to find as many reasons as possible to bring as many Fereldans into Tevinter; the setting originated with the pseudo-Anglo medieval fantasy flavor, and they have heavily relied on it for each game. DA2 is set in the Free Marches but the PC is Ferelden and a lot of the story is about Ferelden refugees. The culture of the Free Marches and Kirkwall is not explored nearly as much as Ferelden culture was. DAI has a split between Orlais and Ferelden but feels to me to have a bias in favor of Ferelden; Orlesians are still caricature French fops and not a lot of time is spent learning more about Orlesian culture than what we already knew. So even though Tevinter is probably the most distinct country in the setting apart from Fereldan and Orlais at this point, I feel like they're going to want to have Fereldan still be the comfort area and keep Tevinter as exotic outsider status. If anything, I would think one of the Magekiller characters will be killed off in DA4. Or else they will be minor characters seen offscreen like Rhys and Evangeline. If they kill anyone from Magekiller off, I'm almost positive it'd be Tessa. Marius has more of a connection to slavery in Tevinter, and and to Calpernia. It'd add to his manpain, too. I think we'll definitely see Charter and Harding (in similar roles to Leliana and Cassandra) in DA4, and Knight Errant has the same 'hey look new people' vibe to that Magekiller did. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 23:51:44 GMT
Considering that Tessa and Charter get together in Magekiller, I hope they don't kill Tessa off so we can finally have a stable f/f relationship outside of the PC/LI. I mean, obviously it will have been 2+ years, so you never know what happens with people, but it would still suck.
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