paindelta
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Post by paindelta on May 25, 2017 2:42:24 GMT
I don't love Alistair necessarily, I think he's a generic nice guy and the most interesting thing about him is that he's a bastard prince. I would like for more lore on why being pregnant with him cured Fiona of the blight and what happened to the Theirin bloodline in the first place for that to even be possible. See, I actually REALLY DISLIKE all the layers of special that Alistair is wrapped in. It's just bad writing to me. "He's a bastard prince but ALSO half-elf and ALSO half-dragon!" Fucking give it a rest. I'm not the biggest Alistair fan (recruiting Loghain Does That,) but I kind of like that he is so comically protagonist-bait yet resists the role so bad he puts all the agency onto you lol, having him being just a support character with a background like that is funny and part of the charm for me. I don't think I really "get" people that go hard for characters like Bann Teagan and Knight Greagior. Like they registered as just rando npcs to me when I played and they aren't like particularly ~sexy~ or alluring enough to warrant the mini fandom of their own that they kinda have. |
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Post by Aurora'Harel on May 25, 2017 3:17:01 GMT
I don't understand the love for... 1. Lace Harding. She's boring and has like five lines in the whole game. 2. Dagna. Also boring and her personality is annoying. 3. The Chargers. Aside from Krem they each have about one line a piece and look weird to boot. 4. Carver. He's a little shithead who sells out his brother. 5. Shale. Her lines aren't funny. BOOM I said it  I agree with you about Harding. Carver reminds me of my brother in law. I like Dagna better than Harding. Krem is the only Charger that matters. Shale was okay, but I didn't think she was super special or anything. |
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 25, 2017 3:17:12 GMT
I also do not understand the appeal of the following characters:
Blackwall, the world's most boring murderer,
Cassandra "punch first and ask questions never" Pentaghast
Sera and her "lolrandumb" gutter humour
AND
Vivienne. Good lord, she is the worst. I mean, she's rude, selfish and just a terrible, terrible snob. And I could handle all that if she weren't such a HYPOCRITE.
And you never get to call her out on it!
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 7:21:11 GMT
Like for Alistair is explained by a single banter with Leliana.
Alistair: So... you're female, Leliana, right?
Leliana: I am? That's news. When did that happen?
Alistair: I just wanted some advice. What should I do if... if I think a woman is special and--
Leliana: You want to woo her? Here's a good tip: you shouldn't question her about her female-ness.
Alistair: All right, yes. Good point.
Leliana: Why do you ask? Are you afraid things will not proceed naturally?
Alistair: Why would they? Especially when I do things like ask women if they're female.
Leliana: It adds to your charm, Alistair. You are a little awkward. It is endearing.
Alistair: So I should be awkward? Didn't you just say not to do things like that?
Leliana: Just be yourself. You do know how to do that, don't you?
Alistair: All right, forget I asked.
The adorkable is a big attraction for some people. I can see it, too, but his other immaturity is a turnoff for me. Even David Gaider called him a "man-child" once.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 7:23:49 GMT
I don't have anything for a specific character, but I just generally find it odd when fans latch onto a character that has a very small amount of screen time and build up something around them, like Abelas.
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 25, 2017 7:35:33 GMT
As someone whose ideal date would be to go play lasertag, "man-child" works for me.
"Maturity" is like... what does that even MEAN, anyway? Stop liking cute things? Stop having fun? Always be articulate and never make a faux-pas ever?
That's not realistic, I don't know a single "adult" who acts that way, lol.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 8:03:16 GMT
I don't have anything for a specific character, but I just generally find it odd when fans latch onto a character that has a very small amount of screen time and build up something around them, like Abelas. omgaaaawd I forgot about Abelas yes. WHY? sorry Abelas fans |
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mrslothy
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Post by mrslothy on May 25, 2017 8:07:43 GMT
i loved shale...  but since this thread devolved into characters we don't like (not them necessarily having fans) i despise this one. annoying voice, annoying behaviour, annoying character |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 25, 2017 8:12:12 GMT
I don't have anything for a specific character, but I just generally find it odd when fans latch onto a character that has a very small amount of screen time and build up something around them, like Abelas. I generally agree. I think with, say, Krem it makes sense since he's our first trans dude character and the close friend of a major character who affects his character arc. He brings out a side of Iron Bull that is more vulnerable, I think. But then there's characters like Bann Teagan. Is it cause you can flirt with him? I don't get it. There's not really anything there. Same with that Ser Michel guy (though tbf apparently he's also in a tie-in novel so he does have some more content than what's in the game). Oh and Abelas, ofc, though I like him a lot just for his outfit tbh like can we get a hot butch ancient elf lesbian in that get-up please. To be entirely fair, though, I'm probably guilty of doing the same shit with female characters. I guess it's more that people like the concept of the character and the potential character arc. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 25, 2017 8:14:18 GMT
As someone whose ideal date would be to go play lasertag, "man-child" works for me. "Maturity" is like... what does that even MEAN, anyway? Stop liking cute things? Stop having fun? Always be articulate and never make a faux-pas ever? That's not realistic, I don't know a single "adult" who acts that way, lol. I think this probably ties into why those kinds of characters rub me the wrong way. |
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 25, 2017 8:17:41 GMT
As someone whose ideal date would be to go play lasertag, "man-child" works for me. "Maturity" is like... what does that even MEAN, anyway? Stop liking cute things? Stop having fun? Always be articulate and never make a faux-pas ever? That's not realistic, I don't know a single "adult" who acts that way, lol. I think this probably ties into why those kinds of characters rub me the wrong way. I don't understand, but I choose to interpret this as you saying you hate fun.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 8:18:47 GMT
I don't have anything for a specific character, but I just generally find it odd when fans latch onto a character that has a very small amount of screen time and build up something around them, like Abelas. I generally agree. I think with, say, Krem it makes sense since he's our first trans dude character and the close friend of a major character who affects his character arc. He brings out a side of Iron Bull that is more vulnerable, I think. But then there's characters like Bann Teagan. Is it cause you can flirt with him? I don't get it. There's not really anything there. Same with that Ser Michel guy (though tbf apparently he's also in a tie-in novel so he does have some more content than what's in the game). Oh and Abelas, ofc, though I like him a lot just for his outfit tbh like can we get a hot butch ancient elf lesbian in that get-up please. To be entirely fair, though, I'm probably guilty of doing the same shit with female characters. I guess it's more that people like the concept of the character and the potential character arc. Yeah sometimes it really is just all about them being hot. Kinda like Ser Barris I guess. *whispers softly* Hot damn. Barris.  |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 25, 2017 8:26:28 GMT
I think this probably ties into why those kinds of characters rub me the wrong way. I don't understand, but I choose to interpret this as you saying you hate fun. I guess it's more that like.... there's this conception that if you don't like manchild characters that you want characters to be mature all the damn time and never crack a smile, which isn't the case. I've known way too many manchildren IRL for the majority of fictional ones to do anything for me, I guess.  Especially if they talk like they're straight out of a Joss Whedon show. |
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Post by mrslothy on May 25, 2017 8:36:22 GMT
Yeah sometimes it really is just all about them being hot. Kinda like Ser Barris I guess. *whispers softly* Hot damn. Barris.   barris (or a worthy replacement) for da4 romance! open for all! |
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 25, 2017 8:40:17 GMT
I don't understand, but I choose to interpret this as you saying you hate fun. I guess it's more that like.... there's this conception that if you don't like manchild characters that you want characters to be mature all the damn time and never crack a smile, which isn't the case. I've known way too many manchildren IRL for the majority of fictional ones to do anything for me, I guess. Especially if they talk like they're straight out of a Joss Whedon show. I don't have much experience with Joss Whedon. I thought the Serenity movie was okay. I also had to watch Hush for a screenwriting class, which is the episode from Buffy where everyone's voices are stolen, so they spend most of it not talking at all, lol. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 25, 2017 8:41:43 GMT
I guess it's more that like.... there's this conception that if you don't like manchild characters that you want characters to be mature all the damn time and never crack a smile, which isn't the case. I've known way too many manchildren IRL for the majority of fictional ones to do anything for me, I guess. Especially if they talk like they're straight out of a Joss Whedon show. I don't have much experience with Joss Whedon. I thought the Serenity movie was okay. I also had to watch Hush for a screenwriting class, which is the episode from Buffy where everyone's voices are stolen, so they spend most of it not talking at all, lol. He has a tendency to write str8 manchild characters that irk me (see: Xanders).  |
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 25, 2017 8:44:56 GMT
I don't have much experience with Joss Whedon. I thought the Serenity movie was okay. I also had to watch Hush for a screenwriting class, which is the episode from Buffy where everyone's voices are stolen, so they spend most of it not talking at all, lol. He has a tendency to write str8 manchild characters that irk me (see: Xanders). Well, most of what I hear these days (from tumblr, lol), is that Whedon leans hard on sexist tropes that he only got away with in the past because the scant feminism he displayed before was considered groundbreaking for the time. So if you say his dudes are annoying, I believe you. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 9:03:04 GMT
I don't understand, but I choose to interpret this as you saying you hate fun. I guess it's more that like.... there's this conception that if you don't like manchild characters that you want characters to be mature all the damn time and never crack a smile, which isn't the case. I've known way too many manchildren IRL for the majority of fictional ones to do anything for me, I guess. Especially if they talk like they're straight out of a Joss Whedon show. To me it's just more about being an adult, dealing with adult things, and thinking in an adult way. It doesn't have anything to do with not liking cute things, or having fun, or being silly, or making crude jokes. Being an adult sucks. It means that you sometimes have to do things you don't want to do; deal with people you loathe; recognize that compromises have to be made; take responsibility for your actions and realize that they can have negative consequences; understand that you're not the center of the universe and that other people, and their feelings, matter too; and understand that there are some ideas and beliefs that are different from yours, but not necessarily wrong. |
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Post by phantomrachie on May 25, 2017 9:26:37 GMT
Anora is a terrible person but a vaguely competent ruler, Alister is terrible Warden & King but is nice enough in a stupid way so together they one passable ruler. IMO there is no other choice at the end of DA:O but to make them rule together because otherwise, everything will turn out awful.
Loghain killed his king. There is no other way to look at it, I don't care how much "other side of the story" crap that was shoved into DA:I. The Hero of Ferelden was there, we know what happened. That being said, he seems to make a passable Warden so there is an argument to be made to let him live, although only long enough to send him to his death instead of Hawke.
It shocks me that Stroud has a fanbase and that people find it difficult to choose between him and Hawke. Stroud was designed to be a generic Warden that you come across in the deep roads in DA2 and the last resort Warden, only to be in DA:I if both Alister and Loghain aren't Wardens. Even though it would actually make more sense for Stroud to be the Warden Hawke is friends with because they always meet in DA2.
This is more of an entire show rather than a character but I just don't get why there are fans of Enterprise. Everything about it was terrible.
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on May 25, 2017 13:04:51 GMT
This song is going to be in my head all day. Thanks, thread.
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Especially if they talk like they're straight out of a Joss Whedon show.
barris (or a worthy replacement) for da4 romance! open for all! 
