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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 16:44:56 GMT
I don't get the excitement over Lace Harding and why people want her to be a LI. Ok she's a dwarf and we never had a dwarf LI, but I expcted somebody... More interesting I guess? I wasn't flashed by her design, her character and voice and you could only talk with her a handful of times. Also like... I didn't find her character story really interesting at all, since I like characters who had some deep drama in their life and their own demons. Maybe I'll like her more in DA4 if she'll be in it, but idk... I'm just not flashed by her at all and I wasn't even interested in talking with her at all.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 16:49:44 GMT
I don't get the excitement over Lace Harding and why people want her to be a LI. Ok she's a dwarf and we never had a dwarf LI, but I expcted somebody... More interesting I guess? I wasn't flashed by her design, her character and voice and you could only talk with her a handful of times. Also like... I didn't find her character story really interesting at all, since I like characters who had some deep drama in their life and their own demons. Maybe I'll like her more in DA4 if she'll be in it, but idk... I'm just not flashed by her at all and I wasn't even interested in talking with her at all. If she is in DA4, and also a follower, I'm sure she will be developed further. There hasn't been a single follower to date that is completely happy with their life, or doesn't have some sort of conflict.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 16:54:09 GMT
I don't get the excitement over Lace Harding and why people want her to be a LI. Ok she's a dwarf and we never had a dwarf LI, but I expcted somebody... More interesting I guess? I wasn't flashed by her design, her character and voice and you could only talk with her a handful of times. Also like... I didn't find her character story really interesting at all, since I like characters who had some deep drama in their life and their own demons. Maybe I'll like her more in DA4 if she'll be in it, but idk... I'm just not flashed by her at all and I wasn't even interested in talking with her at all. If she is in DA4, and also a follower, I'm sure she will be developed further. There hasn't been a single follower to date that is completely happy with their life, or doesn't have some sort of conflict. I mean ok I can get behind that! I just don't get why everybody is in love with her right now. (rofl)
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Post by The Haunting of Praise Adrast on May 25, 2017 16:56:18 GMT
I do love that Scout Harding randomly shows up at the Corypheus battle and then...falls down and that's it I think her fan fave status and extended role in DLC pretty much guarantees she'll be SOME sort of companion in the next game. Which I'm fine with so long as we also get Calpernia
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 16:59:47 GMT
I do love that Scout Harding randomly shows up at the Corypheus battle and then...falls down and that's it I think her fan fave status and extended role in DLC pretty much guarantees she'll be SOME sort of companion in the next game. Which I'm fine with so long as we also get Calpernia Oh I'll take Calpernia over boring ole Harding any day!
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 17:02:52 GMT
I do love that Scout Harding randomly shows up at the Corypheus battle and then...falls down and that's it I think her fan fave status and extended role in DLC pretty much guarantees she'll be SOME sort of companion in the next game. Which I'm fine with so long as we also get Calpernia Oh I'll take Calpernia over boring ole Harding any day! Can I watch you and gaycaravaggio fight over her?
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 17:19:37 GMT
Oh I'll take Calpernia over boring ole Harding any day! Can I watch you and gaycaravaggio fight over her? Oh gosh! Nah, she's a handsome, stern, older woman... I graciously gift her to gaycaravaggio, that's her dream woman!
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Post by toomanyclouds on May 25, 2017 17:41:43 GMT
I don't get the excitement over Lace Harding and why people want her to be a LI. Ok she's a dwarf and we never had a dwarf LI, but I expcted somebody... More interesting I guess? I wasn't flashed by her design, her character and voice and you could only talk with her a handful of times. Also like... I didn't find her character story really interesting at all, since I like characters who had some deep drama in their life and their own demons. Maybe I'll like her more in DA4 if she'll be in it, but idk... I'm just not flashed by her at all and I wasn't even interested in talking with her at all. I'm sort of on the same page, even though a dwarf LI is all I have ever wanted out of the romance in a Dragon Age game. I have no problem with Harding, but I didn't quite get the hype. However, I also have a tendency to fall in love with semi-important random NPCs (just look at my icon), so I guess I can sort of see how people would stan a certain character concept and their potential for development - even if I don't get it in that particular case.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 25, 2017 18:17:00 GMT
With Harding, I think I like the sort of... potential of her. She's not a developed character at all yet, but there are details that together make me think they could do stuff with her. OK, here's what we know so far: - She's embarrassed by her very feminine first name
- World of Thedas Volume 2 has an entry about her that implies her mother was not happy with Harding seeking out adventure and not following in her footsteps (wanting her to settle down, perhaps?)
- She takes pride in her skill (smirking at her kills in her very first cutscene)
- She likes "mayhem" if only jokingly and has a light-hearted demeanor
- Regarding slavers/slavery she came across (was this the Hissing Wastes? idr), she says she had to be "held back" from going on a rampage, so despite having no issue with killing she does have ideals she feels very strongly about
- She, among with Charter and some dude I forgot the name of, are named as the "successors" Leliana is trying to groom to all take her place
Those factors give me the vibe that she could take some qualities of both Alistair and Leliana, with some of her own personal drama thrown in. She's a young tomboyish Ferelden country girl who sometimes lets her emotions get the best of her (a little like Alistair) who I'm gonna assume feels some shame about her girlish upbringing (having learned to ballroom dance, having the girly name she doesn't like to give out, probably even knowing how to sew considering her mother's a seamstress who wanted the same for Harding). She's a ruthless archer into women (familiar?), something in her making Leliana confident that she could be a potential Spymaster. She doesn't shy away from violence, but she still has that idealistic core to her and the kind of optimism that you know will break down eventually in a place like Tevinter. Then again, that doesn't mean shit if they fuck her up. They could totally just Josephine her and not explore any interesting avenues with her or have her grow at all. Then again, if she's the front-and-center right hand woman who's a starter companion, I feel like they'd have to develop her beyond "that nice dwarf archer you can kiss."
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Post by Suaimhneas on May 25, 2017 18:28:43 GMT
Iron Bull. I legit can not think of one thing I like about him. I also really don't like FPJ's voice acting.
He introduces us to Krem and I'm eager to see more Krem I guess?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 2:54:11 GMT
Iron Bull. I legit can not think of one thing I like about him. I also really don't like FPJ's voice acting. He introduces us to Krem and I'm eager to see more Krem I guess? This exactly for me, even the Krem bit, who I do like. Sadly, no Krem for me, as I just don't recruit him for roleplay reasons regarding Qunari.
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on May 26, 2017 2:59:27 GMT
I don't have anything for a specific character, but I just generally find it odd when fans latch onto a character that has a very small amount of screen time and build up something around them, like Abelas. omgaaaawd I forgot about Abelas yes. WHY? sorry Abelas fansYeah dude what the heck?? I do not get the Abelas love
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 26, 2017 4:00:17 GMT
Oh gosh! Nah, she's a handsome, stern, older woman... I graciously gift her to gaycaravaggio , that's her dream woman! Calpernia can raw me. Marius can go walk off a cliff.
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 26, 2017 4:41:21 GMT
Cullen is trash and should be thrown off the Skyhold ramparts. :phear:
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 26, 2017 4:42:13 GMT
Iron Bull. I legit can not think of one thing I like about him. I also really don't like FPJ's voice acting. He introduces us to Krem and I'm eager to see more Krem I guess? For some reason I had you pegged as an Iron Bull fan, lol.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 4:50:14 GMT
I never really was that fond of Cullen in the first place, but ever since I've come across a few members of his fan club, that pretty much killed any supposed appeal he had left from Dragon Age: Origins and Dragon Age II. I get that he's written as this Knight In Shining Armour with PTSD of some sort, and how that it appeals to fans, but I'm not buying it.
That he's a straight male romance option for female elven and human Inquisitors already meant that I'm not gonna be as invested in his character as a gay male player. No matter how many times his fans say he's originally almost going to be written as bisexual. He was ALMOST going to be bisexual. ALMOST. Sorry, but "ALMOST" doesn't count.
Had he been written as gay or bisexual, I would've been more forgiving, I suppose, because finally, a gay/bi Knight In Shining Armour, but at the same time, I'm rather thankful that it ISN'T Cullen to fulfill that elusive, yet-to-be-seen character archetype.
Also, I really don't care about Varric as a character as well. I think he's got better appeal than Cullen, but not by much...
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 26, 2017 4:55:43 GMT
Varric is just boring to me and always has been, but Cullen is a douche. I would be MORE inclined to forgive (though not by much), if he actually owned up to his role in the events of Kirkwall and his complicity in the oppression there. I feel like he oversells his role in the rebellion by a LOT. "I stood against Meredith, in the end." Yeah, the VERY end, when Hawke was already winning anyway, or all the mages were dead. Fuck. You. I wish Hawke and Cullen could meet in DA:I. And if Hawke was pro-mage, he would punch him in the face. >_>
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Post by phantomrachie on May 26, 2017 8:20:47 GMT
I hated Oghren so much in DA:O that he and the deep roads section legitimately made me dislike Dwarves in general. A few characters I did end up liking have swayed me but I'm still not a huge fan. I know I mentioned Alister before but did playing The Darkspawn Chronicles make anyone else completely change their mind about him? I originally thought he was stupid but generally ok, but then I played The Darkspawn Chronicle, saw who he recruited to his cause and was like ' wow, you are legitimately bad at being a Warden' I feel like he oversells his role in the rebellion by a LOT Cullen oversells everything he does by alot. What does he really do for the Inquisition? Lead their troops, Cassandra seems better suited for that. Lead their templars? In most of my playthroughs, I only have a handful of templars for him to lead. I know what Josephine and Leliana do. I get why they are important, but not Cullen.
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Post by Catilina on May 26, 2017 9:33:14 GMT
I hated Oghren so much in DA:O that he and the deep roads section legitimately made me dislike Dwarves in general. A few characters I did end up liking have swayed me but I'm still not a huge fan. I know I mentioned Alister before but did playing The Darkspawn Chronicles make anyone else completely change their mind about him? I originally thought he was stupid but generally ok, but then I played The Darkspawn Chronicle, saw who he recruited to his cause and was like ' wow, you are legitimately bad at being a Warden' I feel like he oversells his role in the rebellion by a LOT Cullen oversells everything he does by alot. What does he really do for the Inquisition? Lead their troops, Cassandra seems better suited for that. Lead their templars? In most of my playthroughs, I only have a handful of templars for him to lead. I know what Josephine and Leliana do. I get why they are important, but not Cullen. Needed a military line with the diplomatic and spy lines. I agree: Cassandra would more suit this position, and the half-disillusioned Templar could be joined to Inquisitor's operative group.
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Post by phantomrachie on May 26, 2017 10:49:41 GMT
I hated Oghren so much in DA:O that he and the deep roads section legitimately made me dislike Dwarves in general. A few characters I did end up liking have swayed me but I'm still not a huge fan. I know I mentioned Alister before but did playing The Darkspawn Chronicles make anyone else completely change their mind about him? I originally thought he was stupid but generally ok, but then I played The Darkspawn Chronicle, saw who he recruited to his cause and was like ' wow, you are legitimately bad at being a Warden' Cullen oversells everything he does by alot. What does he really do for the Inquisition? Lead their troops, Cassandra seems better suited for that. Lead their templars? In most of my playthroughs, I only have a handful of templars for him to lead. I know what Josephine and Leliana do. I get why they are important, but not Cullen. Needed a military line with the diplomatic and spy lines. I agree: Cassandra would more suit this position, and the half-disillusioned Templar could be joined to Inquisitor's operative group. Don't get me wrong. I love Cassandra, so much so that I'm still salty about not being able to romance her, especially when half the straight guys on the old BSN spent their time showing how much they didn't appreciate her awesomeness. *deep breath* but she would have made a much better military advisor. Cullen's history in past games shows how he is not ready to command an army as large as the Inquisition. He was blinded by wanting revenge in DA:O, and took way to long to realise how batshit crazy Meredith was in DA2. He needed time to grow as a leader, time that I don't think the Inquisition could really afford to give him. It would have been better to make Cass the military advisor and Cullen the companion. There would've been a nice character arch there with him growing into the leader the Inquisition needed him to be. IMO the only reason he turns out ok as the military advisor is because the plot needs him to, not because it necessarily makes sense.
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