Doctor Who

Oh that was beautiful, you were expecting it to be tense and she was afraid to tell them but they embraced her with open arms about it.

I'm just trying to remember when she says it. There's the big house episode where she mentions it, the Romans and the last episode where she tells it to the Doctor. Now at the start of the series and the end with her girlfriend, I would say that's show not tell. So 3 instances of tell, and 2 of show (I know I'm probably forgetting something).

Anyway...that's nowhere near enough. There can always be more gay.

Torchwood has my cries.

Literally sobbed till I couldn't see the screen and my eyes hurt lmao.

There's also the date with penny.
In two realities.

12 reminded me a lot of 1, i.e. the douchiness factor. Like there are points where they are both nice and all bc this is still the doctor we are talking about here. But I can't help but draw other conclusions. New regeneration cycle and all that, and meeting each other? Guess it's only fitting.

[don't understand people who didn't like eleven at all]

Just like how people didn't like Martha bc she wasn't rose but were fine with Donna. We all really know it's about race and the fact that she dared to fall in love with the doctor. The irony is that most of the hate came from tumblr who was all about woc and all that jazz

I'm pretty much in the same boat re: the late to the party. I think I finally caught up when s7 was about to start. My favourite of ten's era was Martha but then again I didn't really like ten much bc again, douchiness factor.

So some english papers are making a fuzz about some "nudes" the actor did back in the past, wtf. This is so low.

Big ole' Whovian -- I've been avoiding this thread because of spoilers, but now that I got through all of season 10...here we go!

Yeah, that pretty much IS who the Doctor has been since the start. I mean, when the War Doctor looked at 10 and 11 and wondered if he had a Mid-Life Crisis, he wasn't that far off. You should see how authoritative 1 and 3 could be...

If you're curious about who showed up in the end, I would recommend checking out "An Adventure in Space & Time." It was a TV movie that they made around the time of the 75th anniversary about the start of Doctor Who.

Well, the show wasn't about that originally -- at first it was a way to get kids to learn lessons about history or general morality in an entertaining way. 

And the classic show had done about as much exploration of the Doctor's past before. I mean, they fully intended his real name to be Sigma Alpha before it was retconned to be a nickname from the Academy.

The show is always changing gears, that's how it works, how it's been around for this long.



Hey, in terms of embarassing accessories, the bow time doesn't hold a candle to 5 walking around with a celery stuck to his coat.

But I suppose they can't all be as fashion forward as 6...



I didn't feel Class all that much. Like, I dug the attempts at diversity, but the show itself felt kind of bland outside of that.

Uh...I don't know how you could have gotten something completely wrong without actively trying to.

Yes, he was a manipulative asshole in season 8, but that was part of his character arc. He saw what that did to Clara and Danny, and pulled it back. Way back. From that moment on, Twelve was probably the most compassionate, the most emotional Doctor in the modern show. I mean, how can you call this moment "emotionally defunct?"



If I were perfectly honest, it kind of sounds like from what I'm seeing that the only reason some of you guys don't like Twelve is that he's older and not as young and hot as Tennent or Smith.

I don't like the whole "damnsels in distress" thing when it's with women, why should I like it when it's men? Just let both characters have their own strengths and give them reasons in the story why they're there. That's far more powerful and, frankly, far more progressive. Like, I think the best example of what this sort of dynamic would be the recent Wonder Woman movie -- Steve was never shown to be lesser than Diana, sometimes she saved his ass, sometimes he saved hers.

I liked the idea of the scene, but felt it ran for a little too long in a story that was already pretty light on actual plot and substance.

Well, it's definitely invocative of Twelve's current outfit, so we'll see her in something like this, I'm sure.

One was kind of on another level. In the beginning, all he cared about was protecting his granddaughter. That's it. Hell, his first companions he basically kidnapped, probably to dispose of because he was afraid that they would reveal who his grandaughter was. Every story was less about saving people and more "we have to save these people so we can get the hell out of here." It wasn't until the middle of the first or second season that the Doctor was able to get into the TARDIS and leave at any time but didn't because stopping the threat was the right thing to do.

I mean, Martha's arc with being in love with the Doctor could have been better handled, and probably wasn't the brightest idea to do right after the whole budding romance with Rose, but yeah, Martha was definitely great. It was a shame that they never got a chance to really flesh her out in Torchwood, like they planned.

And yeah, Tumblr is kind of a horrible place 90% of the time. At least it has the good fan art.

My first season watching live was season 6. It might be why I like that one as much as I do, despite some it's flaws. 

Heh, sorry if that was too much. The funny thing is, I had to actually cut out some posts when I saw they were similar.

And yeah, I've loved all the Doctors too -- each of them offered something great to the table and have at least a few undesputed classics under their belts.

Here, to make it even more interesting -- I loved both Davis' AND Moffat's runs. They both had their pros and cons.

Anyway, something interesting I just found. I have no problems with a female Doctor and looking forward to seeing what Jodie will do with the character, but I think this offers a good point why it was important that the Doctor was a man.