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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 9:23:02 GMT
What happened with the sixth secondary LI? I only see ten romance options in the picture at page one. We know, Bradach (who was one of the primary LI's) has been cancelled. But who's the other guy? Or do I just mess something up?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 9:27:57 GMT
Just played the demo. It's good. I like it. Kunal is a bit of a twat, but I'm sure I can make him more of a character that I'd like. Farron is HAAAAWWWWWT. He looks like a big sexy Nyle DeMarco elf. Woof. These boys are cute. I'm counting several playthroughs: Farron, Bradach, Tariq, Ehnsanh, Dioga, Luca. Farron once or twice more throughout that. How nsfw do we think this is? Like frontal nudity? <wink wink> I want CooT level nsfw-ness. <eggplant> Daaaave! Missed you! Ehsanh, Tariq, and Emre are my favourites. Plus Diogo. It's like I have a type or something Though I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Bradach has been scaled down, and he's no longer romanceable it's a shame, I loved his design. He removed a lot of the NSFW stuff from his tumblr, so I suspect it will be rather tame. I think he's trying to make it acceptable for steam. I think that would be pretty great, really. I think a game like this needs more exposure, and Steam is the way to get it. Kotaku has done several articles on different VNs and dating sims, so I think they are likely to cover this as well. It's going to offer the player an unique experience, so the more that know about it, the better. I'm kinda wondering why Bradach is no longer romancable... It seemed like he was sick of hearing about him in some of the comments like "OMG WER IS MAH WHITE GUY." There have been a few Tumblr posts (from him) about it over the months, but I hadn't seen that he was removed as an option completely. It seemed like he got pretty peeved about it, as well as some of the remarks about Kunal being short. I mean, I get him being upset, since he's devoting his life to this game. I remind myself of that when I see those sorts of responses from him. But at the same time it's just something you have to deal with if you're going to blog about the development process as it's going on. Perhaps it shouldn't be so, but that is reality. He should have expected player comments about their likes and dislikes, especially since the game has romances and people are going to want to have their preferred guy.
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Post by Lee on Aug 15, 2017 9:30:53 GMT
What happened with the sixth secondary LI? I only see ten romance options in the picture at page one. We know, Bradach (who was one of the primary LI's) has been cancelled. But who's the other guy? Or do I just mess something up? I was confused about the count when I was reading stuff too, it feels like he took out one and just didn't change the advertising for the game so he's coming up one short. I got pretty annoyed with how all of that was going down on the tumblr page too. It was like he was offended that people were disappointed that he cut one of the romances. Question though, was that romance part of the funding goals? cause there must have been a lot of drama for him to get so mad.
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Post by Rouccoco on Aug 15, 2017 9:32:00 GMT
I don't think anyone's missing. Six main LIs have been planned, I don't remember there ever being a set number of secondary ones.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 9:38:38 GMT
What happened with the sixth secondary LI? I only see ten romance options in the picture at page one. We know, Bradach (who was one of the primary LI's) has been cancelled. But who's the other guy? Or do I just mess something up? I was confused about the count when I was reading stuff too, it feels like he took out one and just didn't change the advertising for the game so he's coming up one short. I got pretty annoyed with how all of that was going down on the tumblr page too. It was like he was offended that people were disappointed that he cut one of the romances. Question though, was that romance part of the funding goals? cause there must have been a lot of drama for him to get so mad. It seemed to me that he was offended with the excessive focus on that one character, especially since he is white. I think it would have played out differently, with different tones, if it had been one of the other characters. This Tumblr post sums it up.[edit] This thread is the first time I'm seeing that he was actually removed as an option.
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Post by Lee on Aug 15, 2017 9:38:52 GMT
The count doesn't matter to me much anyway. I just need that tall elf loving. Faaron, I'm waiting for you!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 9:39:43 GMT
What happened with the sixth secondary LI? I only see ten romance options in the picture at page one. We know, Bradach (who was one of the primary LI's) has been cancelled. But who's the other guy? Or do I just mess something up? I was confused about the count when I was reading stuff too, it feels like he took out one and just didn't change the advertising for the game so he's coming up one short. I got pretty annoyed with how all of that was going down on the tumblr page too. It was like he was offended that people were disappointed that he cut one of the romances. Question though, was that romance part of the funding goals? cause there must have been a lot of drama for him to get so mad. I'm not sure, because I'd learned about the game after the campaign was over. But it certainly looked as if it had been part of the funding goals at some point during its time on kickstarter, although I don't see the image of the remaining character anywhere. But there's written: "$ 13,000 - six secondary love interests added - goal reached!" That sounds as if a sixth character had been planned. What a pity. Some irrational part in me had the hope that Eldet would be the sixth LI, because he had once made some suggestions about it. But I think he had rejected the idea.
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Post by Rouccoco on Aug 15, 2017 9:43:54 GMT
I think that would be pretty great, really. I think a game like this needs more exposure, and Steam is the way to get it. Kotaku has done several articles on different VNs and dating sims, so I think they are likely to cover this as well. It's going to offer the player an unique experience, so the more that know about it, the better. I'm kinda wondering why Bradach is no longer romancable... It seemed like he was sick of hearing about him in some of the comments like "OMG WER IS MAH WHITE GUY." There have been a few Tumblr posts (from him) about it over the months, but I hadn't seen that he was removed as an option completely. It seemed like he got pretty peeved about it, as well as some of the remarks about Kunal being short. I mean, I get him being upset, since he's devoting his life to this game. I remind myself of that when I see those sorts of responses from him. But at the same time it's just something you have to deal with if you're going to blog about the development process as it's going on. Perhaps it shouldn't be so, but that is reality. He should have expected player comments about their likes and dislikes, especially since the game has romances and people are going to want to have their preferred guy. I mean some people will be disappointed, his NSFW stuff is very good. But it would be nice for mainstream appeal, and I do want the game to succeed. He said on ks that he just didn't click story-wise, so his role changed. I think he got a lot of responses about Bradach, and a lot of them probably angry. I don't remember it exactly (you can read one of the updates, and my fumbling comments on it). I think he felt a lot would only play for the white characters. And that would be an upsetting thought. I mean, he didn't expect to get the attention he got (he was sure the campaign would fail), and people tend to be more vocal about the stuff they don't like, so I understand his defensiveness.
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Post by Lee on Aug 15, 2017 9:47:09 GMT
I was confused about the count when I was reading stuff too, it feels like he took out one and just didn't change the advertising for the game so he's coming up one short. I got pretty annoyed with how all of that was going down on the tumblr page too. It was like he was offended that people were disappointed that he cut one of the romances. Question though, was that romance part of the funding goals? cause there must have been a lot of drama for him to get so mad. It seemed to me that he was offended with the excessive focus on that one character, especially since he is white. I think it would have played out differently, with different tones, if it had been one of the other characters. This Tumblr post sums it up.[edit] This thread is the first time I'm seeing that he was actually removed as an option. Yeah that's the thing the focus was on him cause he's the only option that was removed. I know a few people were mad cause a white option was removed...but it felt like he ran with that scandal as a way to mull over the fact he was shorting people of a planned romance-though for all I know he replaced him with someone else. I have no clue. Still it felt off to me... I didn't like the looks of the cut guy anyway, he was ginger but that was all I like about him. I only have eyes for the elf at the moment. I hope though the others will be awesome too. I liked the other option you could flirt with in the demo too though. I was confused about the count when I was reading stuff too, it feels like he took out one and just didn't change the advertising for the game so he's coming up one short. I got pretty annoyed with how all of that was going down on the tumblr page too. It was like he was offended that people were disappointed that he cut one of the romances. Question though, was that romance part of the funding goals? cause there must have been a lot of drama for him to get so mad. I'm not sure, because I'd learned about the game after the campaign was over. But it certainly looked as if it had been part of the funding goals at some point during its time on kickstarter, although I don't see the image of the remaining character anywhere. But there's written: "$ 13,000 - six secondary love interests added - goal reached!" That sounds as if a sixth character had been planned. What a pity. Some irrational part in me had the hope that Eldet would be the sixth LI, because he had once made some suggestions about it. But I think he had rejected the idea. He was very vauge about that. I think he just meant you'd have that magical partnership with him though. It almost sounds like you are kind of possessed by him. kind of creepy honestly. My younger self would not be able to play the game cause of hyper religious conflict and irrational fear of such a thing. (movies about possession still scare me)
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Post by Rouccoco on Aug 15, 2017 9:48:33 GMT
What a pity. Some irrational part in me had the hope that Eldet would be the sixth LI, because he had once made some suggestions about it. But I think he had rejected the idea. Well, maybe he is, but it's spoiler territory, so he's not talking about it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 9:49:27 GMT
Rouccoco Hah as you were writing that, I did find that update you were referring to, and your posts. I've only been skimming the updates, and not read any character bios or anything, because I want to go in with as little info as possible. That's why I didn't know about his removal. I tend to read parts where he talks about designing scenes and such, because I find that stuff interesting (loved the animation work!), but skip right over character stuff because I want to learn about them in the game itself, along with Kunal, like meeting a real person. I can always go back and read them for extra bits after the first play.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 10:09:17 GMT
What a pity. Some irrational part in me had the hope that Eldet would be the sixth LI, because he had once made some suggestions about it. But I think he had rejected the idea. Well, maybe he is, but it's spoiler territory, so he's not talking about it. Maybe, but there was also talk about an romanceable ork, who was cancelled later. So I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with only five secondary LI's (which would still be a great number... though I must admit, I'm alrady in love with Eldet (and Faaron). I really hope he turns out to be a secret romance option. : )
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 10:15:50 GMT
Well, maybe he is, but it's spoiler territory, so he's not talking about it. Maybe, but there was also talk about an romanceable ork, who was cancelled later. So I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with only five secondary LI's (which would still be a great number... though I must admit, I'm alrady in love with Eldet (and Faaron). I really hope he turns out to be a secret romance option. : ) Can you explain this to me?? Is it just the way he looks, or what? When I first saw that people wanted him I was basically like . I'll admit I've been into my share of villains, but would never actually romance one.
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Post by Lee on Aug 15, 2017 10:16:09 GMT
I am curious to know how Faaron will communicate given his muteness. Mild spoiler from the demo. But yeah I'm very curious about that. I have theories of magic being the answer. Magic always a good answer.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 10:30:44 GMT
Maybe, but there was also talk about an romanceable ork, who was cancelled later. So I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with only five secondary LI's (which would still be a great number... though I must admit, I'm alrady in love with Eldet (and Faaron). I really hope he turns out to be a secret romance option. : ) Can you explain this to me?? Is it just the way he looks, or what? When I first saw that people wanted him I was basically like . I'll admit I've been into my share of villains, but would never actually romance one. hmm, It's difficult to explain. I've always been fascinated by evil/dark characters, or characters with dubious morals. in Star Wars, I also liked the conflict with the dark side of the force. I especially like evil characters that suddenly have to deal with feelings that they never knew before or that they tried to avoid, no matter what. Those contrasts are quite interesting. You know the character is evil. He either feels hate or he's cold hearted and indifferent about love and other peoples feelings. Maybe he doesn't even know what true affection means... And yet he falls in love with another person ot of a sudden and has to deal with these new discovered feelings. This can be very exciting, especially if those new feelings lead to inner conflicts and to an attempt to fight them. But yeah, I also like Eldets look. And he seems very mysterious. You just want to know who he is and "what" he is. And he's probably bound up with the protagonist or his mind, so there's some kind of special connection between these two characters, which could lead to an interesting dynamic as well.
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Post by Rouccoco on Aug 15, 2017 10:31:44 GMT
Maybe, but there was also talk about an romanceable ork, who was cancelled later. So I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with only five secondary LI's (which would still be a great number... though I must admit, I'm alrady in love with Eldet (and Faaron). I really hope he turns out to be a secret romance option. : ) Can you explain this to me?? Is it just the way he looks, or what? When I first saw that people wanted him I was basically like . I'll admit I've been into my share of villains, but would never actually romance one. We still don't know, if the label villain applies here. I think he'll keep people guessing, like Flemeth.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 10:40:02 GMT
Oh man. That's a bummer about Bradach. He was the best looking one in my opinion. I mean, there are still plenty of other good looking guys, but it stinks that the ging is the one that got dropped as an LI. There aren't a ton of male ging LI's in games, even less if you are talking m/m LI's. I mean, there's Gil and one of the daddies in dream daddy. But......who else? So it stinks that the sexy ging bear is the guy who gets dropped but the ripped blond gets to stay. But it's not my game and he seems to have his reasons. I'm sure it will still be a pretty great game.
I feel bad for him that he was getting so frustrated about people focused on one of the white characters getting removed. I think people who are saying that's it's a problem because of diversity are pretty foolish. He promised diversity and there's a ton of it and one less white guy doesn't change that. Side note: in that blog post linked earlier, he mentions that there are now two black guys, two white guys, two Asian guys, two Arabic/middle eastern guys, and two mixed race guys. Who is the other white fuy beside Luca? Farron? Or that other elf that looks like a thinner Farron? That would be my only minor grip -- the two elf LIs look a ton alike. And he has some other really cool diverse looking elves in his concept art, so it's a bummer that both romanceable elves have similar facial features, long dark hair, blue eyes, facial hair.
Anyway, not to sound nitpicky, since I'm excited for this (even if it's going to be pretty tame compared to what I was hoping for). So good on him for creating a game like this and sticking to his prinicples!
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Post by Lee on Aug 15, 2017 10:40:15 GMT
Can you explain this to me?? Is it just the way he looks, or what? When I first saw that people wanted him I was basically like . I'll admit I've been into my share of villains, but would never actually romance one. We still don't know, if the label villain applies here. I think he'll keep people guessing, like Flemeth. I get the feeling his morality will be shaped by our choices as he sounds like part of the pc. all random speculation on my part though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 11:01:44 GMT
One more minor gripe since I'm griping 😜
There is a serious lack of body hair on these guys. Only two of them have more than a light sprinkling of chest hair. Boo! One more reason that Farron is clearly the best LI! 😉
Who would have thought that I'd be a fan of the long haired elf? Cognitive dissonance is a go!
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Post by Lee on Aug 15, 2017 11:05:41 GMT
One more minor gripe since I'm griping 😜 There is a serious lack of body hair on these guys. Only two of them have more than a light sprinkling of chest hair. Boo! One more reason that Farron is clearly the best LI! 😉 Who would have thought that I'd be a fan of the long haired elf? Cognitive dissonance is a go! He's clearly best husband. He's so tall. Our shortie pc will need to climb that for sure.
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