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Post by Davrin's boobs on Aug 15, 2017 0:36:08 GMT
I must say that I'm really relief that the religious faction is not based on a real religion, at least it's what it seems because mages = heresy in those times. BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT they seem to be the mage-type in this game besides natives and as mage trash I kinda bugged about the fact you have to believe in that god to have magic powers??? My mages in DA are super atheists as I said, so I dont know what kind of character I want to be besides the merchant faction...
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Post by Ark on Aug 15, 2017 0:53:00 GMT
I think there's only one romance gated to a faction in FO4. The rest are neutral. I mean... it would be nice to not alienate potential LIs with my decisions in Greedfall, but if i have to choose between romance or driving out the colonists siding with the natives, I'll be choosing the natives. Hopefully it's not a either/or thing. Your cause is noble, but your character is one of the colonists. In fact what are we native supporters meant to do in the end? Leave as well? Hrm, it's hard to be certain since we don't yet know the context within the story yet. Using irl examples though, some of the worst parts of colonialism isn't so much the individuals, it's the industry and profit that arises from stripping resources, land, and culture away from the native populations. So an ideal ending might be that the colony you are a part of recognizes the existing native populations as people of equal standing. That you will not expand unilaterally, but invite the native inhabitants to found townships with your people, and synthesize the native culture/traditions into these townships? Or something along those lines....
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Post by Crimson on Aug 15, 2017 1:23:44 GMT
Davrin's boobs I'm kinda fine with giving crazy native witch gal to girls if I get my smartass scientist guy. they deserve it, especially after Morrigan, amirite, Crimson ? I've been summoned to this thread about a game I know nothing about, however, I gave a like cos of a Morrigan mention. You may say I'm a fan, or an idiot.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 2:31:09 GMT
Scientist boyfriend, pls.
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Post by Lee on Aug 15, 2017 2:32:25 GMT
whoever is hottest will be my pick Pffffft, so shallow Guilty as charged! Though hotness is not just in looks. Personality can save or break the hotness level. Reyes for example is kind of meh looks wise, but as soon as he talks I'm like "you can do what you want with my body" (though now I'm hopelessly devoted to Jaal, but hey he had me for a while) I'm reading a spanish article about the game and it says that the religious faction is composed by mages that think the disease the people are running from is a manifestation of their God's wrath. There are ton of texts that I'm not willing to traslate now lol here it is
edit. - Scientists want to cure the disease with medicine (duh xd) through resources they find in the island. - Neutral factions: Sailors and mercenaries - Natives have special magic related to nature - Every companion have different abilities - Two companions at the same time like Technomancer or ME - Companions can get mad at you and even betray you - Your character can choose abilities in the skill tree from the other factions, except natives (you are a colonist so it makes sense) also this In Greedfall the protagonist comes from a continent devastated by the wars and by a disease that is decimating to the population. He/She is the niece/nephew of a prince who rules in a merchant city and send him to an island almost unknown and isolated from the rest of the world since it is rumored that there may be the cure for the disease. All of that sounds pretty awesome. The religious faction sounds like it'll be kind of the bad guy though sadly. I knew you wouldnt let me down! =P I must say that I'm really surprised about native guy popularity. When we know the companions I will make another poll, well... if they go for all bi approach, because if they give us only one option is almost pointless making a poll, but I will make it anyway lol And yes the sailor faction is my second favorite!!!! I am really hoping one of them is super hawt and dresses like a pirate. No yea I mean, like me too, that's why I say I'm projecting. That sentence/statement was more like directed at 'people' that seem to think the two are mutually exclusive. I get ya boo. It's always nice to see another gay person with religious beliefs though. You like the doctor too... Stop being so awesome!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 2:38:07 GMT
That is true, Bioware tends to do m/m companions non-whites, it's like they throw their diversity bag in one place. I think we talked about this in other thread but I dont remember when or how lol Zevran, Fenris, Dorian, Gil, Reyes, Steve are all dark skinned and IB or Jaal are purple lol the only exceptions are Anders and Kaidan, one from a game with all bi approach and the other one with a tailored romance for women in mind. I'm not counting Sky for obvious reasons, I hope we have an east-asian companion in DA4. John Rolfe is bae too  I'm going to try to keep my expectations low for a native american though, I only ask the m/m option is not from the religious faction, sorry but I'm atheist as fuck and my character if they let you, is going to be it as well XD I always thought Kaidan had some Asian heritage so he wasn't 100% IndoEuropean. I would like a KISA but am not bothered by appearance. Just want some chivalry! Kaidan always read as sort of Asian to me, especially in ME1, but trying to divine ethnicity from phenotypes is a dodgy prospect and even more so when we're talking about video game graphics. Like a lot of people think of Gil as POC, but he's about the same tone as my dad who is completely Caucasian.
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Post by Lee on Aug 15, 2017 2:44:21 GMT
Kaidan always read as sort of Asian to me, especially in ME1, but trying to divine ethnicity from phenotypes is a dodgy prospect and even more so when we're talking about video game graphics. Like a lot of people think of Gil as POC, but he's about the same tone as my dad who is completely Caucasian. I've actually wondered about this a number of times. Gil is hard to peg down. I mean I've seen tons of white guys with darker tans, but he doesn't look like the tanning kind (given they won't even let him off the ship usually). It doesn't matter much I suppose-but I would like to know just the same.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 3:01:08 GMT
Kaidan always read as sort of Asian to me, especially in ME1, but trying to divine ethnicity from phenotypes is a dodgy prospect and even more so when we're talking about video game graphics. Like a lot of people think of Gil as POC, but he's about the same tone as my dad who is completely Caucasian. I've actually wondered about this a number of times. Gil is hard to peg down. I mean I've seen tons of white guys with darker tans, but he doesn't look like the tanning kind (given they won't even let him off the ship usually). It doesn't matter much I suppose-but I would like to know just the same. I mean in my dad's case, he doesn't go out of his way to tan and it also doesn't fade much during the winter months. I've also got a buddy with the same situation who's often assumed to be Latino even though he's not to his knowledge. It doesn't really matter to me either, ethnicity isn't something I consider when it comes to dating in either real life or video games, but I feel more than a little uncomfortable when people think that anyone who isn't pasty can't be white. Characters like Gil and Kaidan are just sort of Shrodinger's ethnicity for me without word of god one way or another.
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Post by Lee on Aug 15, 2017 3:04:32 GMT
I mean in my dad's case, he doesn't go out of his way to tan and it also doesn't fade much during the winter months. I've also got a buddy with the same situation who's often assumed to be Latino even though he's not to his knowledge. It doesn't really matter to me either, ethnicity isn't something I consider when it comes to dating in eother re life or video games, but I feel more than a little uncomfortable when people think that anyone who isn't pasty can't be white. yeah. It's always a little awkward when people just assume such things. Like when a certain someone took ownership in the Gil thread on BSN cause he looked like he was from his part of the world...and started attacking people for not liking him cause he wasn't white. It was hella awkward cause no one was saying that. We just wanted him to have a unique scanned face like the other characters.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Aug 15, 2017 3:10:21 GMT
I've actually wondered about this a number of times. Gil is hard to peg down. I mean I've seen tons of white guys with darker tans, but he doesn't look like the tanning kind (given they won't even let him off the ship usually). It doesn't matter much I suppose-but I would like to know just the same. I mean in my dad's case, he doesn't go out of his way to tan and it also doesn't fade much during the winter months. I've also got a buddy with the same situation who's often assumed to be Latino even though he's not to his knowledge. It doesn't really matter to me either, ethnicity isn't something I consider when it comes to dating in either in real life or video games, but I feel more than a little uncomfortable when people think that anyone who isn't pasty can't be white. Characters like Gil and Kaidan are just sort of Shrodinger's ethnicity for me without word of god one way or another. my father is caucasian and he has the same dark skin tone than Gil, he has dark dirty blonde hair and green eyes, the guy is a Lannister chimera so to speak lol I mean spanish people have arabian heritage for sure, but as far I know from my father's side they have never had arabian relatives they know about XD, I would like to do that blood test from where I come from though lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 3:36:45 GMT
Davrin's boobs I'm kinda fine with giving crazy native witch gal to girls if I get my smartass scientist guy. they deserve it, especially after Morrigan, amirite, Crimson? I would be fine with this set up. I'm usually down with the queer warrior who isn't Fenris/Bull sort of edgy, but scientists are always going to trump that for me. Take me to bed and whisper your dirty thoughts on heliocentrism in my ear.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 3:58:08 GMT
Scientist boyfriend, pls. This was my second poll choice! Nerds are great, especially enthusiastic ones who will chatter about their interest. It's one of the things I like about Dorian. I fully admit I picked the native guy as my first choice for the hotness factor. >.> Kaidan always read as sort of Asian to me, especially in ME1, but trying to divine ethnicity from phenotypes is a dodgy prospect and even more so when we're talking about video game graphics. Like a lot of people think of Gil as POC, but he's about the same tone as my dad who is completely Caucasian. I've actually wondered about this a number of times. Gil is hard to peg down. I mean I've seen tons of white guys with darker tans, but he doesn't look like the tanning kind (given they won't even let him off the ship usually). It doesn't matter much I suppose-but I would like to know just the same. I mean in my dad's case, he doesn't go out of his way to tan and it also doesn't fade much during the winter months. I've also got a buddy with the same situation who's often assumed to be Latino even though he's not to his knowledge. It doesn't really matter to me either, ethnicity isn't something I consider when it comes to dating in eother re life or video games, but I feel more than a little uncomfortable when people think that anyone who isn't pasty can't be white. yeah. It's always a little awkward when people just assume such things. Like when a certain someone took ownership in the Gil thread on BSN cause he looked like he was from his part of the world...and started attacking people for not liking him cause he wasn't white. It was hella awkward cause no one was saying that. We just wanted him to have a unique scanned face like the other characters. It's a slippery slope with this topic, really. There are still people who insist that Isabela isn't black, even though the devs say that she is, and comes from Rivain, which is full of black people. On appearance alone, I never considered Fenris to be a POC, just a bit more swarthy than your average elf. But that's how a segment of the fandom looks at him now, and Maker help you if you fail to recognize that. Poor exca got shit for some of his earlier Gil art for not making him as dark as he is. I can understand some of it to a degree -- whitewashing and erasure is a problem -- but I think jumping on people to that extremity only brings divisiveness into the fandom. Instead of celebrating a character together, people split into factions.
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Post by Andrew Mancer on Aug 15, 2017 4:13:35 GMT
That is true, Bioware tends to do m/m companions non-whites, it's like they throw their diversity bag in one place. I think we talked about this in other thread but I dont remember when or how lol Zevran, Fenris, Dorian, Gil, Reyes, Steve are all dark skinned and IB or Jaal are purple lol the only exceptions are Anders and Kaidan, one from a game with all bi approach and the other one with a tailored romance for women in mind. I'm not counting Sky for obvious reasons, I hope we have an east-asian companion in DA4. John Rolfe is bae too I'm going to try to keep my expectations low for a native american though, I only ask the m/m option is not from the religious faction, sorry but I'm atheist as fuck and my character if they let you, is going to be it as well XD Yeah, we did talk about this trend in the other thread! It just makes me sad that the guys that are my type always default to straight. I mean...can't the cute, blonde, KISA be gay for once? John Rolfe has the personality and the good looks. He's too perfect. A guy like that wouldn't even have to try and sweep me off my feet. I'd fall for him in an instant, haha. The day we get a man like him as a gay romance is the day I can die happy. I would like a KISA but am not bothered by appearance. Just want some chivalry! I'm shallow but yeah...I can probably get past looks if he is really sweet. Andrew isn't my type going off of his appearance (far from it), but his romance is just too adorable that he gets my heart racing. I'll be satisfied if they can replicate that feeling in this game. Davrin's boobs I actually want the religious faction guy/girl etc be attracted to the same sex (that actually states their attraction clearly, looks at suvi) bc we need more of those types; thought I finally got that with Joseph from dream daddy but no. They really messed up with that one. I love Joseph, but he really deserved better. I totally agree. It would be wonderful to have them be open about their attraction to the same sex. I can't believe that BioWare still hasn't gotten this right after so many years of featuring same-sex romance...at least with the males anyway. They seem to have no problem allowing the females to be open about it. I wonder if the sailor faction... maybe a hot pirate? PIRATES ARE RENEGADE SAILORS Sorry I really love this gif. GIVE ME SOMEONE LIKE THAT, BUT BLONDE/GINGER WITH A HAIRY CHEST AND WE'RE GOOD, Spiders. The thing about pirates is that homosexuality was a thing between them, of course not everyone was gay/bi lol but when society from those days condemned homosexuality, ofc a lot of gay men were pirates. I dont know if you guys know about what Matelotage is, but that's the name for gay marriage between two pirate men. One of many reasons I want a native american or a pirate as LI in this case, it's because -if Spiders does their historical homeworks right- they were people where homosexuality was not a sin. I dont want gay angst with colonists... Goddess that would be awful, of course this is a game and they could ditch the historical homophobia, but I dont want risks like those and the game is set in the real world, not like DA. Oh wow, I decided to look that up and it is actuially quitre interesting. I mean I remember reading about homosexuality in the pirate life before but I never looked into it! Yes, please, give us some gay pirates! I wouldn't mind seeing some LGBT NPCs around as well outside of the romance options. Of course. In games set in present times, fictional settings like DA or set in the future like ME I wouldnt care, Suvi is awesome as much as Leliana. But this game is set in the past of our real world, I'm just scared of the implications Yeah, aren't we playing as a prince/princess? I don't want any of that "you need an heri" stuff, but I'd like to think Spiders is above that when compared to BioWare. Looking at you, Alistair, Sebastian, and Gil. well it's the first rpg with an inspired 17th century setting where I will be able to be gay so the game has all my attention YES!!! This is exactly why this game has my attention! I love the idea of a game set in the 17th century where you can be gay. These types of historical settings appeal to me so much as a historian. ...I'm still waiting for the day where we'll get a game that has a more historical/realistic medieval setting that allows for a gay protagonist with a gay prince/king that you can romance. I know it won't happen, but I can dream can't I? edit. also guise I would like to know what kind of bae do you want for this game, I know that phantomrachie wants a warrior woman, Andrew Mancer his noble blonde man and Ash his nerdy scientist and I'm sure you all are tired of me saying that I want a native american lol I WANT TO HEAR YOUR DESIRES!!!! edit2. Oh fuck I'm gonna do a poll!!!! ...Oh, you know me so well. AAAHHH Nick how do you expect me to choose between mercenary and sailor?! Both can totally be extremely hot! I'm super ok with smartass (like, smart asshole, not purely nerdy) scientist also being noble blonde man. Yes please. I'd love this! Well, let's start dreaming Top list: 1 - Native warrior, hunky, bootiful LOOOONG black hair and really tall. Sorry but I love the nature/animal-loving stereotype because that's me in real life so I want a male disney Pocahontas lol 3- Mercenary, ruthless and very dangerous, sexy af 4- Scientist, noble guy, chivalrous and educated, super cutie cute. 5- Religious, the only way that I would like someone religious in the game, give me a daddy priest to break his vows #sorrynotsorry You've totally got me with 3, 4, and 5! I also wouldn't say no to the first... is this from porn? it looks like it's from porn. or else a smutty novel dust jacket I dont know, I just googled sexy priest XD that guy needs more grey hair though ...Yes please. I'd love an older man as a romance option! ..We could've has this with Blackwall...but of course the writers at BioWare believe KISA types can't be gay...ugh... I can already see it, the theories and discussions and inside jokes about the game we'll have, and of course the inevitable husbando wars as we get closer to release. I think this will be fun. Oh boy...I can't wait for the husbando wars! It'll totally be fun and I can't wait to learn more about the game! I dont know, I just googled sexy priest XD that guy needs more grey hair though I voted Native Davrin's boobs . Though it was a tough call, and if there's a hot sailor that's gay I may be swayed to that side. To be fair whoever is hottest will be my pick so this early poll pick is highly subject to change. Though the natives are weird green people apparently, and that's pretty awesome! (correct me if I'm wrong there) Yeah, I'm shallow enough to go for whatever side has the hottest guy. If there's a hot blonde/ginger you know I'll be after him the entire time. Davrin's boobs I would also like a sailor/pirate bae. I just like their aesthetic more. Would settle for a bad ass mercenary though. My canon romance in DA2 was Isabela with my lesbian Hawke, I would LOSE mind for a hot male Isabela I voted Native Davrin's boobs . Though it was a tough call, and if there's a hot sailor that's gay I may be swayed to that side. To be fair whoever is hottest will be my pick so this early poll pick is highly subject to change. Though the natives are weird green people apparently, and that's pretty awesome! (correct me if I'm wrong there) I knew you wouldnt let me down! =P I must say that I'm really surprised about native guy popularity. When we know the companions I will make another poll, well... if they go for all bi approach, because if they give us only one option is almost pointless making a poll, but I will make it anyway lol And yes the sailor faction is my second favorite!!!! If my guy is straight...well, mods will save the day! ...It worked with Alistair and Cullen and I won't be afraid to do it again. But I honestly have high hopes for this....if we only have one I believe he will be a high quality romance and we won't be neglected. Male sailor male sailor male sailor...! You wouldn't be able to pull me away from him, haha. Isabela is my favorite Dragon Age companion so a male version that is just as fun? Totally! I'm reading a spanish article about the game and it says that the religious faction is composed by mages that think the disease the people are running from is a manifestation of their God's wrath. There are ton of texts that I'm not willing to traslate now lol here it is
edit. - Scientists want to cure the disease with medicine (duh xd) through resources they find in the island. - Neutral factions: Sailors and mercenaries - Natives have special magic related to nature - Every companion have different abilities - Two companions at the same time like Technomancer or ME - Companions can get mad at you and even betray you - Your character can choose abilities in the skill tree from the other factions, except natives (you are a colonist so it makes sense) also this In Greedfall the protagonist comes from a continent devastated by the wars and by a disease that is decimating to the population. He/She is the niece/nephew of a prince who rules in a merchant city and send him to an island almost unknown and isolated from the rest of the world since it is rumored that there may be the cure for the disease. Thanks for getting some info for us! Every little bit just gets me more and more excited! I am really hoping one of them is super hawt and dresses like a pirate. OH YES PLEASE!!! On the topic of POC romance...tanned skin is just not my type. I like the pale, blond/ginger with blue/green/grey eyes look. It's why none of the BioWare LIs have interested me. Anders was closest, but his personality/romance was the exact opposite of what I want and he didn't have pretty blue eyes...still love him though. I don't think there's anything wrong with having a preference for pale guys...but the fandom seems to think not liking POC sexually/romantically makes you racist or whatever, and that's just ridiculous. Glad that isn't the case here. If I said this anywhere else, I'd probably receive death threats or something.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Aug 15, 2017 4:14:57 GMT
Okay, I have read the thread. Let's speak about this game guize!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well, first I'll just repeat what Sir Drell said, that the phrasing about same-sex romances is unfortunately too vague to know if they mean more than one of each, or more than one same-sex romance, I.E. one gay one lesbian. I know it's easy to get excited, since this is still a rare occurrence, but based both on their last game as well as learning not to get my hopes up from ME:A, I'd advise caution. Sadly, I can easily see it going the route of DA:O and having 2 straight and 2 bi options, in other words: straight people get 2 options while The Gays™ get 1 I hope I'm wrong. Oh, and as for the poll, I voted for female scientist (because I mean, of course I did ) only for now. Because I like those. I didn't vote for faction because I need more info, but would probably side with either Scientists or Natives. And I didn't put my second vote into female sailor or merc because either is cool as long as she's a KISA She seems like a chaman, so mage-type I suppose? of course she is from the native faction Maker, she's scary I always like the warrior woman and she is always straight. It's my curse. Yes, it's mandatory, apparently. Bioware (and hopefully not everyone else too) needs to stop straight-coding knights. It's frustrating. Why can't we have those traits or like those romances? I always like the warrior woman and she is always straight. It's my curse. how many years gay/bi people have been asking for a warrior-type s/s romance and Bioware keeps doing the same archetypes over and over again ¬¬U And not just that they haven't done a non-straight KISA of either gender in all their games, but also that they make way too many bi/gay Rogues, like it's deviant. Oh, and m/m options who can betray/leave you, strangely. Davrin's boobs the description you posted said the colonists are from 'several distinct nations', so there may be coloured people across the factions. It seems like quite a specific and deliberate way they wrote that, so don't worry too much. Yeah, this is fictional. They're using "native" with its most basic meaning, that they live there. They don't have to look like First Nations people. Who knows what races the other nations are, either? They could be mixed and intermingled, even. I'm glad the dev explained why it's not open world, i hope they really drive home the fact that the game is better for not having it. I just hope the mindset of the industry changes and open world stops being this mandatory trend people feel the need to include just for the sake of it. Just... imagine what ME:A could have been if they toned down the open world (and therefore never wasted an entire year of development on procedurally-generated planets)... I actually want the religious faction guy/girl etc be attracted to the same sex (that actually states their attraction clearly, looks at suvi) bc we need more of those types; thought I finally got that with Joseph from dream daddy but no. Yeah, it's frustrating not just for queer religious representation, but just lesbian representation, since she's the only one in the game and you'd never know. Lame. As I've said before many times. Yes, i would actually enjoy debating with my partner in the game about their beliefs, you know as long as it's an open minded thing and he doesn't hate me for not fully agreeing. I really liked the civil debates i had with Suvi, now if i could do that with my boyfriend? That could be really interesting. Yes, it's a lot better, and sweeter, than full-on rivalry, which isn't needed. You don't have to be exactly the same to love each other. I agree it would be great to have a clearly queer character (sorry Suvi) who is also religious/spiritual without having Real World religious issues. It would be nice in a fantasy world to allow religions not to have the same homophobia or other social issues that we often face IRL. I am not religious but I would imagine for queer people who are, it would be nice for them to have representation in games. I agree that Suvi was a wasted opportunity there, even if I'm not religious myself either. As for Greedfall, it would depend heavily on the nature of the religion as to whether I think it would be a good thing. I could get very frustrated depending on how it works if my option was religious. I found Suvi's faith a lot more appealing than real-world religions because it's not even an organized religion, but a personal thing. It doesn't have all the baggage that almost every real religion does, or the dogma, etc. The one in Greedfall is certainly organized and they seem capable of less-than-good things if they believe a plague to be a god's wrath. So not so appealing. "Limited customization" huh...so, CC even more restrictive than MEA? Yeah, unfortunately. Technomancer has a very limited CC, even more of a preset editor than ME:A. Although, it might have features ME:A's didn't. Hell, Destiny's CC is better in some ways... Yeah, the premise isn't entirely uninteresting It just lacks that...je ne sais quoi...that spark that drew me into those previously mentioned games. Granted, I was drawn in by early gameplay rather than trailers for those (I haven't watched trailers for any of them), so my opinion might still change. I'm not super enthused either, just keeping it on my radar(/gaydar?). That time-period/setting isn't my favourite. But we'll see what happens. And few games have that je ne sais quoi for me either, but there aren't many games on the horizon I'm looking forward to, soo... On that note, I feel it's my duty to tell you (and the thread) that "Je ne said quoi" literally means "I don't know what" Davrin's boobs I would also like a sailor/pirate bae. I just like their aesthetic more. Would settle for a bad ass mercenary though. Women can certainly pull off that look very well. I'd love to finally have a warrior woman after all these years/games, but not with an amoral merc personality. Any romance option I like has to be good at heart. Your cause is noble, but your character is one of the colonists. In fact what are we native supporters meant to do in the end? Leave as well? Depends on what the Natives want, no? They might want you to leave entirely, or maybe everyone but you because you're special, or maybe they are okay with integration, or small colonies?
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 15, 2017 4:19:53 GMT
I've actually wondered about this a number of times. Gil is hard to peg down. I mean I've seen tons of white guys with darker tans, but he doesn't look like the tanning kind (given they won't even let him off the ship usually). It doesn't matter much I suppose-but I would like to know just the same. I mean in my dad's case, he doesn't go out of his way to tan and it also doesn't fade much during the winter months. I've also got a buddy with the same situation who's often assumed to be Latino even though he's not to his knowledge. It doesn't really matter to me either, ethnicity isn't something I consider when it comes to dating in either real life or video games, but I feel more than a little uncomfortable when people think that anyone who isn't pasty can't be white. Characters like Gil and Kaidan are just sort of Shrodinger's ethnicity for me without word of god one way or another. i get wanting diversity and things of the like but boy... some people, especially on Tumblr go all lynch mob on other people like "mccree has to be not white." I mean I like that idea of mixed/poc mccree and I support it but until there's canonical proof, it's not wrong to also assume he could just be tanned/darker skinned, (I have a friend who is Chinese but his skin is like darker than some Malays), and going around attacking peaople regarding their views and calling them racist based on that alone... or like there's currently drama about Robert small as well; I can see it but considering Val is pretty darker skinned compared to Robert, it could just be Val being mixed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 4:26:18 GMT
If my guy is straight...well, mods will save the day! Can you do mods with these Spider games? That would help me buy the game, honestly. I love modding and tinkering. I think I may have spent more hours modding Skyrim and DAI than actually playing the games.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 4:30:53 GMT
I mean in my dad's case, he doesn't go out of his way to tan and it also doesn't fade much during the winter months. I've also got a buddy with the same situation who's often assumed to be Latino even though he's not to his knowledge. It doesn't really matter to me either, ethnicity isn't something I consider when it comes to dating in either real life or video games, but I feel more than a little uncomfortable when people think that anyone who isn't pasty can't be white. Characters like Gil and Kaidan are just sort of Shrodinger's ethnicity for me without word of god one way or another. i get wanting diversity and things of the like but boy... some people, especially on Tumblr go all lynch mob on other people like "mccree has to be not white." I mean I like that idea of mixed/poc mccree and I support it but until there's canonical proof, it's not wrong to also assume he could just be tanned/darker skinned, (I have a friend who is Chinese but his skin is like darker than some Malays), and going around attacking peaople regarding their views and calling them racist based on that alone... or like there's currently drama about Robert small as well; I can see it but considering Val is pretty darker skinned compared to Robert, it could just be Val being mixed. I think the best comparison would be to how some people choose to ignore that Gil is gay and that pisses you guys off -- and rightly so! For a POC player to finally see representation of themselves, and then have other players say it's not really there, is just cause for being pissed. But again, Tumblr peeps take things to extreme levels. On that I fully agree.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 15, 2017 5:53:04 GMT
i get wanting diversity and things of the like but boy... some people, especially on Tumblr go all lynch mob on other people like "mccree has to be not white." I mean I like that idea of mixed/poc mccree and I support it but until there's canonical proof, it's not wrong to also assume he could just be tanned/darker skinned, (I have a friend who is Chinese but his skin is like darker than some Malays), and going around attacking peaople regarding their views and calling them racist based on that alone... or like there's currently drama about Robert small as well; I can see it but considering Val is pretty darker skinned compared to Robert, it could just be Val being mixed. I think the best comparison would be to how some people choose to ignore that Gil is gay and that pisses you guys off -- and rightly so! For a POC player to finally see representation of themselves, and then have other players say it's not really there, is just cause for being pissed. But again, Tumblr peeps take things to extreme levels. On that I fully agree. Agreed. Though Gil is like canonically gay. Yea, like I said we need more diversity in general but peeps on tumblr act like their way is the only way and anyone who dare thinks different is just the most vile and evil person to ever exist (and some of these lynch mob people aren't even poc and they just want to 'be inclusive'). Sick of that mentality tbh.
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Post by farferello on Aug 15, 2017 5:55:53 GMT
I'm reading a spanish article about the game and it says that the religious faction is composed by mages that think the disease the people are running from is a manifestation of their God's wrath. There are ton of texts that I'm not willing to traslate now lol here it is
edit. - Scientists want to cure the disease with medicine (duh xd) through resources they find in the island. - Neutral factions: Sailors and mercenaries - Natives have special magic related to nature - Every companion have different abilities - Two companions at the same time like Technomancer or ME - Companions can get mad at you and even betray you - Your character can choose abilities in the skill tree from the other factions, except natives (you are a colonist so it makes sense) also this In Greedfall the protagonist comes from a continent devastated by the wars and by a disease that is decimating to the population. He/She is the niece/nephew of a prince who rules in a merchant city and send him to an island almost unknown and isolated from the rest of the world since it is rumored that there may be the cure for the disease. Hmm interesting. I've no idea what the release time frame for the game will be so no clue when we will start seeing more details about it and the companions. I'm shallow and will likely drift toward the faction my romance choice is in, unless choosing a different faction won't mess the romance up. (Kinda like romancing Preston but choosing Railroad didn't mess up his in F4) Though I'm hoping the opportunity for a companion to get mad and betray you is pretty obvious and not ' you did this one small thing you forgot about at the start of the game and that was enough.' Like, more understandable if you do everything you can to work against their faction or annoy them enough, though hopefully you won't annoy companions too much just by making small decisions. The amount of times in games I've given up my characters personality to try and make their companions like them is too high. I also hope companions having different abilities doesn't make one end up being more favourable over another. (Not that it's stopped me before from taking my favourites together, even if they don't make up a good party composition.)
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Post by Lee on Aug 15, 2017 6:03:52 GMT
I am sure it'll be a pretty obvious thing. Like in Technomancer one of your companions will leave the team if you side with the most evil group in the game-and the companions bitched at me over and over that she wouldn't like it...I didn't listen and I felt bad about it. I reloaded and picked other options though later on it worked out cause I got all the faction trophies that way.
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