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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jul 2, 2018 13:17:40 GMT
Aside from Lee's awesome arguments why you people choose to kill companions, I would feel so bad lmao even characters that I dont like like Durance or Sebastian I try to use them to some extent in the party with narrative reasons you can hate Bull because he's a purple minotaur or he's another bi promiscuous man or whatever (people with bad tastes you cant help with that ) but thanks to the Chargers he has found a life away from the Qun, the Inquisitor being the last push to get rid of it, like... Bull is the most anti-qun qunari ever existed lmao You are literally sending him to the wolves and indoctrination again lmao
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Post by disgustednoise on Jul 2, 2018 16:34:24 GMT
Aside from Lee's awesome arguments why you people choose to kill companions, I would feel so bad lmao even characters that I dont like like Durance or Sebastian I try to use them to some extent in the party with narrative reasons you can hate Bull because he's a purple minotaur or he's another bi promiscuous man or whatever (people with bad tastes you cant help with that ) but thanks to the Chargers he has found a life away from the Qun, the Inquisitor being the last push to get rid of it, like... Bull is the most anti-qun qunari ever existed lmao You are literally sending him to the wolves and indoctrination again lmao Edit: This was also in reply to Lee, but I forgot to double quote. 1. I didn't bring this up to debate the pros and cons of y'alls boyfriend's fate with anyone. It was relevant to another post that I have experience with because I've done it multiple times. 2. He might be the least Qun Qunari to ever Qunari, but he's still a Qun follower. And he also had every chance to defect like every other Tal-Vashoth, but he doesn't unless you as a player hand-of-god him into it. He's not truly even on the fence outside of video game power fantasy where we get to make huge life choices for people that aren't even our character. 3. It just doesn't make roleplay sense for the characters I play to ever agree to even go on the quest that would result in working that closely with the Qun. Letting Bull and the Chargers in is one thing since the Inquisition is in dire straights before closing the breach and also the fact that you're only the Herald rather than the Inquisitor at that point and the people above you really ought to be in charge of accepting or shutting down the situation, but both those circumstances have changed by the time Bull's loyalty quest shows up. 4. I have no interest in clinging to the squeaky clean, generically perfect protagonist that's really popular on here. Which includes being suspicious, prejudiced, and mistrustful of people and ideas that it's logical for my protagonist to be suspicious, prejudiced, and mistrustful about from his limited perspective.
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Post by Andrew Mancer on Jul 2, 2018 20:36:00 GMT
Oops looks like Iron Bull is going to die this game. The only character I've ever killed is Velanna, both because I just don't like Grey DeLisle at all and for roleplay reasons as my Warden is married to Alistair. ...But there are certainly a few here and there I wouldn't mind seeing killed, either by the protagonist or other circumstances. VARRIC.
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on Jul 3, 2018 0:21:17 GMT
To be back on topic; Aria decided to become a rift mage. She completed her training with Your Trainer today and is officially a rift mage. She cleared it most of the Exalted Plains, helped out her fellow Dalish along the way. She finally returned the wedding ring to the miner in Fordbidden Oasis (who was super glitched ugh), and kill d the Dragon in Hinterlands ! Currently, she’s in Crestwood, planning to help the town from the undead. She feels so sorry for them and her opinion on the wardens suffered a bit when they didn’t stay to help. They have their orders but... Grey Wardens are supposed to help are they not? (Roleplaying perspective of course)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2018 8:21:46 GMT
Finished DAI but not super happy with it. Vivienne forming a new Circle, the elves flocking to Solas, the betrayal of the Iron Bull (which I thought only happened if the Chargers were killed but I don't recall sending them on any missions, or even discussing it - plus, they were present during Trespasser). I also refused to dismantle the Inquisition citing a writ from Divine Justinia. Instead, they became the personal guard of Divine Victoria. I think I'd rather use the writ as a reason for the Inquisition to remain its own independent organization. Fuck Arl Teagan and his demon-infested son. It's not really betrayal – he's loyal... to the Qun. It's logical you must separate him from the Qun. True, his loyalty mission is too hard, if the Inquisitor absolutely doesn't trust the Qun, and thinks, a Qunari ally can't bring any benefit... True – then why recruited Bull... So: it's a little bit interesting choice in every way. He sought out the Inquisitor specifically to work for the Inquisition. Therefore, he betrayed the Inquisition. There's not really any way around it not being a betrayal when he says he works for you but then tries to stab you in the back.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2018 8:26:10 GMT
My Inquisitor (or Herald, atm), Maxwell (stock name), recruited Blackwall and Vivienne. Shut down most, if not all, rifts in the Hinterlands. Though a Circle mage, he never joined the rebel mages. He's also a True BelieverTM of Andraste and the Chantry. Therefore, he is aligned with Vivienne and opts to seek help from the Templars rather than the mages. It's not going well. Attacked by a bunch of Red Templars and now I'm in that dream place trying to figure out how to get around that green fire.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2018 19:59:38 GMT
Completed Champions of the Just, recruiting Cole along the way. Chose to form an alliance with the Templars rather then making them disband and become part of the Inquisition. Leliana didn't like it. Went to the Storm Coast to recruit Iron Bull. Eliminated that bandit kind or whatever and then left for the Hinterlands. Did some minor quests and now working on gaining the Horsemasters favor.
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Post by Andrew Mancer on Jul 3, 2018 22:37:24 GMT
My Inquisitor (or Herald, atm), Maxwell (stock name), recruited Blackwall and Vivienne. Shut down most, if not all, rifts in the Hinterlands. Though a Circle mage, he never joined the rebel mages. He's also a True Believer TM of Andraste and the Chantry. Therefore, he is aligned with Vivienne and opts to seek help from the Templars rather than the mages. It's not going well. Attacked by a bunch of Red Templars and now I'm in that dream place trying to figure out how to get around that green fire. I wanted to try Champions Of The Just for this game because it makes sense for my character, but it looked like that would make Vivienne the most likely candidate for Divine. I couldn't find any answers on how difficult it would be to make Leliana the Divine going through that path so I decided not to risk it. My character does support Vivienne, but I just don't think she's the best choice for leading Thedas. ...Also I just really wanted to see Alistair again and I like Samson and Fiona. I wish I had gone through with it though as I've never seen that quest before.
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Post by Crimson on Jul 3, 2018 23:15:19 GMT
Bull betrays you if you don't do his loyalty quest. That's my personal canon so that Krem can live. that is evil who hurt you also >I've put down Anders on a few runs >I would never go the murder route with Alistair but I did turn him into a drunk on two occasions cos that felt more dark to me.
*flameshield engaged*
Iron Bull is a good boy who wants to be a real boy, he needs to leave the Qun. He also gets excited when we hunt dragons sooooo he shall never die in my timeline.
It's interesting to see how others play their games, I enjoy switching it up a bit from time to time and living with the darker consequences. I'll always have my canon runs tho which keep everyone alive cos, I want to see what they're up to down the line.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jul 3, 2018 23:41:20 GMT
>I've put down Anders on a few runs >I would never go the murder route with Alistair but I did turn him into a drunk on two occasions cos that felt more dark to me. *flameshield engaged*
I'll always have my canon runs tho which keep everyone alive cos, I want to see what they're up to down the line. Softieee
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Post by Andrew Mancer on Jul 4, 2018 2:09:50 GMT
Making more progress again in Inquisition...and again I am reminded why I am so disappointed with this game. I stopped reading the codex entries and notes for quests a long time ago because there are just way too many of them and it would take forever to get through the game that way... So I was running through the Emerald Graves taking care of some of the "quests" in the area when I decided to just go ahead and read one of the diaries I found...and it was surprisingly pretty heartbreaking. It added A LOT of depth to the faceless bad guys I had just killed. This is the type of stuff that should have been brought into scenes/conversations with these "bad guys". It would have made these actual quests and so much more interesting. As it stands now...all you really do in the game is fight a bunch of enemies and read a bunch of notes telling you to do more of the same and it gets old really fast. The Freemen Of The Dales could have been such an interesting story if you were given an actual chance to talk to these guys and learn their motivations and then have different ways of dealing with them (like joining the Inquisition) as was the case with Origins and DA2. These notes humanize them in a way that should have been done in-game with conversations...now I feel bad about killing them because they really aren't bad people...but the game doesn't give you that choice because "open world exploration and combat" takes priority over actual quests and interactions with NPCs...ugh... Inquisition would have been a much more interesting and enjoyable experience for me if it focused on the story and characters instead of the open world...
I'll probably do a bit more today in the Emerald Graves and finish that up tomorrow and probably take care of The Forbidden Oasis and Western Approach next.
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Post by disgustednoise on Jul 4, 2018 2:54:57 GMT
I've ruined Aveline. She's haunted.
I put in a redesign mod without realizing that the character morphs are mostly good awful. For all the other ones I didn't like, I could slam in a different morph and over top of it, but it didn't work for Aveline. So then I tried deleting her entire folder from the redesign mod, BUT ITS STILL THERE EVEN THOUGH THE FILE IS GONE.
So I guess she's just stuck with unmemorable, generically pretty random NPC face forever.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 3:07:28 GMT
My character does support Vivienne, but I just don't think she's the best choice for leading Thedas. I personally dislike Vivienne but my Inquisitor mage feels differently. He is pro-Circle. He is, after all, a Trevelyan. Since he comes from a noble family, he gains certain concessions, like the ability to visit his family on occasion. Take note that his family has close ties to the Templar Order, which means a) he doesn't see them Templars so negatively and b) he's Vivienne also had a distinctly better life than most mages. Hell, she was powerful enough within Orlaisian society that she could actually murder someone at her party with no consequences. You can see how a loyalist mage that comes from noble family would find Vivienne to be in alignment with his own feelings. Now, given how Vivienne perverts the Chant of Light if she becomes Divine, yes, it's a terrible outcome. However, my Inquisitor doesn't know this going in and so will follow the path that makes the most sense to him. In RP terms it would be odd for him not to be in agreement with Vivienne.
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Post by Lee on Jul 4, 2018 3:56:54 GMT
Fun fact but siding with the templars is actually the fast track to getting Cassandra as the divine. Conscripting the mages is the way to get Vivienne. However, there is a points system, and if you use the guide you can get whoever you like with a little meta gaming. It's just up to you how you want to go about it. All the points mapped out on the wiki
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Post by disgustednoise on Jul 4, 2018 5:18:12 GMT
Fun fact but siding with the templars is actually the fast track to getting Cassandra as the divine. Conscripting the mages is the way to get Vivienne. However, there is a points system, and if you use the guide you can get whoever you like with a little meta gaming. It's just up to you how you want to go about it. All the points mapped out on the wikiI always try to follow that and I still get Vivienne half the time when I'm going for the other two. I swear she rigs it with blood magic and a series of dice rolls.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 5:55:01 GMT
Fun fact but siding with the templars is actually the fast track to getting Cassandra as the divine. Conscripting the mages is the way to get Vivienne. However, there is a points system, and if you use the guide you can get whoever you like with a little meta gaming. It's just up to you how you want to go about it. All the points mapped out on the wikiI always try to follow that and I still get Vivienne half the time when I'm going for the other two. I swear she rigs it with blood magic and a series of dice rolls. I got Leliana when I was practically goading Cassandra into taking the job. I guess the Chantry Conclave didn't care what I thought.
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Post by Lee on Jul 4, 2018 5:55:24 GMT
Fun fact but siding with the templars is actually the fast track to getting Cassandra as the divine. Conscripting the mages is the way to get Vivienne. However, there is a points system, and if you use the guide you can get whoever you like with a little meta gaming. It's just up to you how you want to go about it. All the points mapped out on the wikiI always try to follow that and I still get Vivienne half the time when I'm going for the other two. I swear she rigs it with blood magic and a series of dice rolls. Ah, that sucks. I always get who I want. Though I mostly do the same things every time too so I'm kind of boring like that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 8:39:28 GMT
Took on Corypheus and his pet dragon. Survived the fall of Haven and became the leader of the Inquisition. Solas pointed us to Skyhold where I was named Inquisitor. Now trudging through the Fallow Marsh with Solas, Sera and Iron Bull. I somehow failed to recruit Cole and Dorian. Just have to chat with them at Skyhold.
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Post by vertigomez on Jul 4, 2018 18:49:17 GMT
I got a lot done last night! I started The Long Road and brought Isabela, Merrill, and Fenris along for the journey (and the lulz - I love Hawke frantically interrupting Aveline and Isabela lolol), then got ambushed by slavers so we went ahead and took care of Hadriana and co. for Fenris, who was on the low end of rivalry and by the end of this questline was on the low end of friendship so I guess we're going that route this time. Also got introduced to the Eluvian by Merrill, gave Anders a gift and he also seems to think we're in a romance or there's some kind of unrequited love thing going on there (gave my heart to Isabela bro byyyee), and talked to Varric about bringing the pain to Bartrand. All in all, a pretty gud day in Kirkwall. Also Leandra saying "I've heard that pirate girls of yours talk", aww, you think she's mine. Thanks mum.
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Post by Andrew Mancer on Jul 6, 2018 13:54:45 GMT
I think I've made some good progress again with Inquisition. I'm always 50/50 on this game but I'm having fun again...although it's probably thanks to my Inquisition playlist and the songs I enjoy. I managed to complete everything at the Emerald Graves that was possible at my current level as well as everything in the Forbidden Oasis. I'm finally going to start moving forward with the story tomorrow so I can finally make more progress with the Cullen romance. I'm going to deal with the Wardens first so I can get the dance with Cullen in WEWH! I missed that last time! ...I think it was Blackwall who offered a dance even though we broke up by that point. Of course I'll also have to talk to everyone before making any progress in the main quest so I don't miss anything!
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