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Post by Lee on Feb 4, 2021 8:01:57 GMT
Reading all the homophobes on twitter talk about how great Mass Effect is...makes me stop and ask, but is it? The answer is it's a pretty decent set of games, but it's not nearly as good as it's hyped to be. They all 3 have a lot of glaring issues (bad facial animations, audio bugs out the ass, storylines that go nowhere, and god the pushy NPCs that invade one's personal space). It always felt like a solid start, but it never felt finished (especially the ending of Mass Effect 3...head cannon my ass-finish the freaking story!)
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Post by mediocreogre on Feb 4, 2021 15:18:55 GMT
It’s probably nostalgia. From my experience no golden age of RPGs game is as good as you remember it. Except Kotor2 TSL. That one kinda holds up and I appreciated it more as an adult playing it (the themes are amazing). Kotor not so much. You can also now mod TSL to have Atton with a knob because of huge technical advancements in pixel wang technologies. Cyberpunk eat your heart out.
As much as I would have liked them to tweak it so you could romance a dude as mShepard in 1 and or 2, I actually would have been fine with the scraps left for modding... I’m so used to modding RPGs from around that time (and later) that I could have dealt with that option but with out it... the price I am willing to pay drastically dropped.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Feb 4, 2021 17:37:59 GMT
What about a campaign like #MakeJaalBi like #MakeMassEffectGayerAgain or something? I feel like if this is not something that makes noise with PR consequences devs are still going to ignore us all along and beyond cause they dont care about us but they DO care about their image min: 6:45 "and there wasnt really any sort of intent for Jack to be anything other than what she was" Jack is canon bisexual in the game, she mentions a hook up with a man and a WOMAN in the game, WTF dude I hate ME devs so much, glad Hudson is gone, wish it was the same for the rest higher charges ps. work is draining the life out of me, I have only energy to whine on twitter lol
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Post by Andrew Mancer on Feb 4, 2021 18:07:39 GMT
This guy makes me sick. He continues to ignore us and then puts out lies like that to try and cover up his tracks... If we start a campaign, you can count me in. This is a disgusting situation and they shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Feb 4, 2021 18:18:17 GMT
We are not as strong as the days of makejaalbi sadly, we are so scattered, but we can discuss it for sure, we can post it in different sites and I'm open to post in BSN cause why the fuck not lol
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Post by VFerreira93 on Feb 4, 2021 20:12:01 GMT
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Post by VFerreira93 on Feb 4, 2021 20:20:16 GMT
Wait a minute. So it's possible to reuse animations from mshep to femshep but not viceversa for, say, balance romances out for both parties? The logic there is not computing well in my brain "In turning their attention into providing players with a better ‘overall experience,’ Walters further explained that the team gave special attention to improving the game’s handling of the female version of Commander Shepard, whose character lacked customization features and reused many of the male-centric animations from her male counterpart."
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Post by Andrew Mancer on Feb 4, 2021 22:10:37 GMT
At 5:00 there's a quick glimpse of Tali being planned as a same-sex option in the early stages of development...which we already know still shows in the final game. The fact that they choose to make all these other changes but yet completely ignore all the cut same-sex content and male Shepard not being able to romance anyone until the third game says a lot about the Mass Effect team...
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Post by farferello on Feb 4, 2021 22:59:52 GMT
They make it pretty clear that the Mass Effect team gives zero fucks about same sex romances and their player base. I mean, that was pretty obvious already but hearing all this 'yeah they were supposed to be bi/gay and it was cut' and for Bioware to then not add it in with the remaster now 'times have changed' when it comes to gay and lesbian romances makes it very clear they don't give a shit and will never change.
I mean between ME:1 and ME:A there's been ten years. Ten years to change, develop, and improve. What did we get? Some guy in the hold whose entire plot is about his creepy best friend trying to make him have a baby, the lying devious bisexual whose animations are completely fucked for the same sex side of the romance and you barely see him once the planet is finished, and then Jaal whose bisexuality was originally cut and we had to make a whole damn campaign to get it reinstated. With the remaster that's even longer and still no change.
Things haven't improved, they've just gotten more ass backwards.
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Post by turianlannister on Feb 5, 2021 1:13:53 GMT
I gather from the interview that by sexualised cutscenes they mean the scenes in both ME2 and ME3 where Miranda's butt takes up a significant proportion of the screen that all Shepard's get, I didn't romance her but I remember the infamous butt shot in her room where the game pauses for a dialogue selection and the player can stop and stare at her ass for as long as they want. The only change I could see them making to actual sex scenes would be taking underwear off as that wouldn't require much work Dudebros are flipping out about Miranda's butt being censored in the comments of the link you posted lol
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Post by VFerreira93 on Feb 5, 2021 1:28:29 GMT
I gather from the interview that by sexualised cutscenes they mean the scenes in both ME2 and ME3 where Miranda's butt takes up a significant proportion of the screen that all Shepard's get, I didn't romance her but I remember the infamous butt shot in her room where the game pauses for a dialogue selection and the player can stop and stare at her ass for as long as they want. The only change I could see them making to actual sex scenes would be taking underwear off as that wouldn't require much work Dudebros are flipping out about Miranda's butt being censored in the comments of the link you posted lol There are even people on this masseffect facebook group i'm in that arent gonna get LE because of this and I'm here just like "dudebro tears sure are refreshing today" xD
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Post by turianlannister on Feb 5, 2021 2:13:56 GMT
I gather from the interview that by sexualised cutscenes they mean the scenes in both ME2 and ME3 where Miranda's butt takes up a significant proportion of the screen that all Shepard's get, I didn't romance her but I remember the infamous butt shot in her room where the game pauses for a dialogue selection and the player can stop and stare at her ass for as long as they want. The only change I could see them making to actual sex scenes would be taking underwear off as that wouldn't require much work Dudebros are flipping out about Miranda's butt being censored in the comments of the link you posted lol There are even people on this masseffect facebook group i'm in that arent gonna get LE because of this and I'm here just like "dudebro tears sure are refreshing today" xD Is it that big Mass Effect group that has over 40000 members?
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Post by dgcatanisiri on Feb 5, 2021 2:21:35 GMT
The camera not lingering lovingly on Miranda’s ass IS legit cause for celebration, considering it gets more screen time than she does...
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Post by VFerreira93 on Feb 5, 2021 2:21:47 GMT
There are even people on this masseffect facebook group i'm in that arent gonna get LE because of this and I'm here just like "dudebro tears sure are refreshing today" xD Is it that big Mass Effect group that has over 40000 members? It might be that one, yeah. 58.7 members so far.
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Post by turianlannister on Feb 5, 2021 2:27:05 GMT
Is it that big Mass Effect group that has over 40000 members? It might be that one, yeah. 58.7 members so far. I've just been there, there's a post about the changes and dudebros are throwing a fit in the comments Edit: Apparently they're also changing FemShep's sitting animation so she's no longer flashing Garrus and Hackett in a dress
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Post by turianlannister on Feb 5, 2021 2:53:01 GMT
Quite a number of people in the Mass Effect group are saying that Bounding into Comics is a clickbait site and isn't well regarded in the comics world so it could be that they're pulling facts out of their arse
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Post by Lee on Feb 5, 2021 3:12:43 GMT
I'm still mad. Can't let go of the salt it seems.
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Post by mediocreogre on Feb 5, 2021 4:50:58 GMT
Yikes. The whole point of a remaster is to modernize the aesthetics of a dated game, some times the mechanics too, to bring it on par to the expectations of current gamers. So essentially they are saying they’ll modernize aesthetics, mechanics, but not modernizing decisions they made out of fear or lack of conviction. So to me that means they support their past choices in terms of LGBTQ rep. Hear you loud and clear BW.
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Post by turianlannister on Feb 5, 2021 19:47:51 GMT
I gather from the interview that by sexualised cutscenes they mean the scenes in both ME2 and ME3 where Miranda's butt takes up a significant proportion of the screen that all Shepard's get, I didn't romance her but I remember the infamous butt shot in her room where the game pauses for a dialogue selection and the player can stop and stare at her ass for as long as they want. The only change I could see them making to actual sex scenes would be taking underwear off as that wouldn't require much work Dudebros are flipping out about Miranda's butt being censored in the comments of the link you posted lol There are even people on this masseffect facebook group i'm in that arent gonna get LE because of this and I'm here just like "dudebro tears sure are refreshing today" xD It's not like there isn't plenty of views of Miranda's ass in the trilogy anyway, it's just that the rest of her is also in the shot They'll probably flip their lid if bioware leaves in that scene where Shepard stares at a romanced Kaidan's ass, hope they don't also take that scene out if they are indeed removing Miranda's ass shots
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Post by turianlannister on Feb 5, 2021 19:59:56 GMT
What about a campaign like #MakeJaalBi like #MakeMassEffectGayerAgain or something? I feel like if this is not something that makes noise with PR consequences devs are still going to ignore us all along and beyond cause they dont care about us but they DO care about their image min: 6:45 "and there wasnt really any sort of intent for Jack to be anything other than what she was" Jack is canon bisexual in the game, she mentions a hook up with a man and a WOMAN in the game, WTF dude I hate ME devs so much, glad Hudson is gone, wish it was the same for the rest higher charges ps. work is draining the life out of me, I have only energy to whine on twitter lol We should go and reply #MakeMassEffectGayerAgain on all of Hack Walters twitter posts and on the other devs Incidentally that video is now private
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