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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 16, 2017 11:58:44 GMT
I definitely with your statement. I'd give the opportunity for others to shine since they ended not having a lot of attention in the main game. To think that Bioware said that even the most tiny of secondary characters would have a lot of content... Honestly, after everything that has happened bever since Andromeda launched, it doesnt surprise me in the least that no Mass Effect game has a GOTY award (in comparison to DAI)  I genuinely think that there was a misunderstanding of what BioWare said about this by journalists that lead to fan disappointment. What BioWare said was that the character with the least amount of dialogue in MEA has more than the character with the most amount in ME3. There is a lot of dialogue in MEA, characters on the Tempest are constantly chatting to each other and there is a huge amount of banter in the Nomad. They interact with each other in this way more than any other Mass Effect game. However what some fans expected when told there was more content with characters, were more fleshed out scenes with Ryder, not the characters chatting to each other, which led to disappointment. Personally, I'd prefer a combination of what we got in MEA with the DA:I approach which would give us all the nice chatting between characters with more fleshed out scenes, but BioWare only promised more dialogue, which is what we got. Not even that, they said "squadmate," not character. Then, people misquoted it over and over again. |
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on May 16, 2017 12:03:41 GMT
I honestly doubt Ryder will ever be protag again if they keep ME a thing. :/
BUT MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS IF THERE IS NO DRAGON AGE SERIOUSLY NO.
I love ME but Dragon Age Inquisition blew Andromeda out of the water and I am desperate for closure in that game ;o;
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Post by Lionrage on May 16, 2017 12:11:45 GMT
I honestly doubt Ryder will ever be protag again if they keep ME a thing. :/ BUT MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS IF THERE IS NO DRAGON AGE SERIOUSLY NO. I love ME but Dragon Age Inquisition blew Andromeda out of the water and I am desperate for closure in that game ;o;The fact that Dragon Age Inquisition is such a much better game compared to Mass Effect Andromeda hurts so badly given how much they've copied the game in a way and then managed to make things way less fun and developed..somehow.  >  >  >  |
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Post by phantomrachie on May 16, 2017 12:24:21 GMT
I genuinely think that there was a misunderstanding of what BioWare said about this by journalists that lead to fan disappointment. What BioWare said was that the character with the least amount of dialogue in MEA has more than the character with the most amount in ME3. There is a lot of dialogue in MEA, characters on the Tempest are constantly chatting to each other and there is a huge amount of banter in the Nomad. They interact with each other in this way more than any other Mass Effect game. However what some fans expected when told there was more content with characters, were more fleshed out scenes with Ryder, not the characters chatting to each other, which led to disappointment. Personally, I'd prefer a combination of what we got in MEA with the DA:I approach which would give us all the nice chatting between characters with more fleshed out scenes, but BioWare only promised more dialogue, which is what we got. I didnt remember the exact words, so thanks for pointing it out. But still, it doesnt make it less true. Bioware also said the crew would have way more content (equal to the "Advisors on DAI" level), and look how that turned out to be  Both things are true. It is true that MEA squadmates & crew have more dialogue than previous ME games, but it is also true that BioWare dropped the ball when learning how to flesh out character interactions from the success of DA:I. gaycaravaggio that you for the correction.  JewlieGhoulie I preferred MEA to DA:I overall. I thought all the things MEA took from DA:I improved on the DA:I formula, however the one thing I really wish they had taken from DA:I and they didn't, are the interactions with LIs & companions. The Dragon Age series has always done a much better job of this than the Mass Effect series and when BioWare said they were taking lessons learnt in DA:I to MEA I had hoped that relationships would be the main aspect that they transferred over. Even the fleshed out romances in MEA don't have as many scenes as the least fleshed out romance in DA:I |
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Post by VFerreira93 on May 16, 2017 12:24:55 GMT
I honestly doubt Ryder will ever be protag again if they keep ME a thing. :/ BUT MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS IF THERE IS NO DRAGON AGE SERIOUSLY NO. I love ME but Dragon Age Inquisition blew Andromeda out of the water and I am desperate for closure in that game ;o; Personally, I wouldnt like that much for them to take the DA approach on Mass Effect when it comes to change you MC in every game. There's still a lot of potential left with the Rider siblings and it would be a bit of a disservice to both characters if they did that because they havent had the character development that they deserve.. I mean, they can always change that with DLCs and such but at this point, we're not even sure if there's going to be more than one  |
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on May 16, 2017 12:55:45 GMT
I honestly doubt Ryder will ever be protag again if they keep ME a thing. :/ BUT MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS IF THERE IS NO DRAGON AGE SERIOUSLY NO. I love ME but Dragon Age Inquisition blew Andromeda out of the water and I am desperate for closure in that game ;o; Personally, I wouldnt like that much for them to take the DA approach on Mass Effect when it comes to change you MC in every game. There's still a lot of potential left with the Rider siblings and it would be a bit of a disservice to both characters if they did that because they havent had the character development that they deserve.. I mean, they can always change that with DLCs and such but at this point, we're not even sure if there's going to be more than one It's not that I don't want Ryder to come back. I love Ryder but the way EA is reacting to MEA just makes it seem unlikely in this current time. But, I do agree. I know a lot of people like the formula of constantly changing the protag in DA, but I feel like that should stay a DA thing if necessary. |
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Post by mrjack on May 16, 2017 15:10:57 GMT
Why do I keep hearing that DA might be getting dropped? I don't know what to believe anymore after the author of the downsizing article walked a lot of it back.
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Post by Scottphoto on May 16, 2017 15:36:07 GMT
Why do I keep hearing that DA might be getting dropped? I don't know what to believe anymore after the author of the downsizing article walked a lot of it back. I think DA is still good for now but the new IP needs to get good revenue because it seems to be a project that cost a lot of money so far and Andromeda hasn't made up for its budget much. I want them to continue Ryder badly, he is my favorite protagonist from all the Bio games I have played. I say played cuz I stil haven't tried Hawke hehehe. I feel gameplay wise I like Andromeda more than DAI for sure, the problem is that it isn't as meaty in story and production values like Dragon Age Inquisition to keep the journey excting throughout. |
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Post by VFerreira93 on May 16, 2017 15:56:00 GMT
Why do I keep hearing that DA might be getting dropped? I don't know what to believe anymore after the author of the downsizing article walked a lot of it back. I think DA is still good for now but the new IP needs to get good revenue because it seems to be a project that cost a lot of money so far and Andromeda hasn't made up for its budget much. I want them to continue Ryder badly, he is my favorite protagonist from all the Bio games I have played. I say played cuz I stil haven't tried Hawke hehehe. I feel gameplay wise I like Andromeda more than DAI for sure, the problem is that it isn't as meaty in story and production values like Dragon Age Inquisition to keep the journey excting throughout. I havent really played Dragon Age Inquisition, so I cant really comment on that. But the graphics and the bits and pieces of it that I've read story-wise makes me wanna jump right into the game! (and I still have to start/finish Origins and DA2 in its fullest entirety)  |
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Post by Vy on May 16, 2017 18:24:55 GMT
If Starfield is a space opera RPG (remember, we literally only have a title to base our assumptions on), I'm betting that Bethesda's marketing department is practically salivating at the idea of winning over the sci-fi RPG fans who were disillusioned by Andromeda. I doubt we'll see it at E3 (IMO, Wolfenstein: The New Colossus and The Evil Within 2 are more likely announcements), but if we do, it'd be hilarious to see them throw some well-earned shade at Andromeda.
We should probably make an E3 thread when June rolls around, shouldn't we?
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Post by Aurora'Harel on May 16, 2017 18:28:45 GMT
If Starfield is a space opera RPG (remember, we literally only have a title to base our assumptions on), I'm betting that Bethesda's marketing department is practically salivating at the idea of winning over the sci-fi RPG fans who were disillusioned by Andromeda. I doubt we'll see it at E3 (IMO, Wolfenstein: The New Colossus and The Evil Within 2 are more likely announcements), but if we do, it'd be hilarious to see them throw some well-earned shade at Andromeda. We should probably make an E3 thread when June told around, shouldn't we? yes, we should!!! When it is closer to E3, someone can make one in the General Gaming section. |
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Post by Scottphoto on May 16, 2017 19:24:01 GMT
If Starfield is a space opera RPG (remember, we literally only have a title to base our assumptions on), I'm betting that Bethesda's marketing department is practically salivating at the idea of winning over the sci-fi RPG fans who were disillusioned by Andromeda. I doubt we'll see it at E3 (IMO, Wolfenstein: The New Colossus and The Evil Within 2 are more likely announcements), but if we do, it'd be hilarious to see them throw some well-earned shade at Andromeda. We should probably make an E3 thread when June told around, shouldn't we? yes, we should!!! When it is closer to E3, someone can make one in the General Gaming section. Yeah, I was thinking of doing one (look I have like 20 rough draft threads ok hahaha) but decided to wait for the event to get closer. But put it up once the EA event starts than I think is a bit before E3. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 20:06:06 GMT
I don't think DA is in danger. Rather, it might be under more pressure now to be successful since MEA didn't hold up its end of Bioware' revenue. Hopefully that means it will receive more resources and support, but I have a feeling it's the new IP that EA really wants to succeed.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 16, 2017 20:17:15 GMT
Why do I keep hearing that DA might be getting dropped? I don't know what to believe anymore after the author of the downsizing article walked a lot of it back. My friend's source at Bioware (same one that leaked ME:A's romances and who wrote what character) said that, if the Secret IP doesn't do well, then DA4 may be in danger. They're on ice with EA. However, we don't have the context for that. It could have just been EA trying to scare them into doing their very best. Or it could have been someone exaggerating how angry EA is with them. Still, I'll assume the worst and buy a ton of the new IP to make sure they succeed enough to give us DA4. Just in case. |
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Post by Vy on May 16, 2017 20:19:23 GMT
yes, we should!!! When it is closer to E3, someone can make one in the General Gaming section. Yeah, I was thinking of doing one (look I have like 20 rough draft threads ok hahaha) but decided to wait for the event to get closer. But put it up once the EA event starts than I think is a bit before E3. I just checked; EA Play begins on June 10, E3 begins on June 13th. Maybe we should put it up on the 8th or 9th, with schedule information and confirmed pre-event details (such as "Ubisoft confirms Far Cry 5 reveal at E3") in spoiler tags within the OP. |
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Post by Vy on May 16, 2017 20:25:33 GMT
I don't think DA is in danger. Rather, it might be under more pressure now to be successful since MEA didn't hold up its end of Bioware' revenue. Hopefully that means it will receive more resources and support, but I have a feeling it's the new IP that EA really wants to succeed. Gotta cash in on those multiplayer micro transactions I guess.  It just sounds worryingly backwards to me - "We're going to make the continued existence of a studio known for single player RPGs contingent on their first multiplayer-focused game being a hit." Hopefully EA and Bioware know what they're doing... Edit: technically it's their second after SWTOR, but I think the spirit of my post still stands. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 20:27:50 GMT
Why do I keep hearing that DA might be getting dropped? I don't know what to believe anymore after the author of the downsizing article walked a lot of it back. They're doing lots of new hiring at Edmonton. I'm not concerned at all, really. DAI sold really well and earned a GOTY. There is no reason at all to drop Dragon Age. Right now, it seems as if their focus is on the new IP, so aside from occasional bits that the core DA team (which doesn't get moved around) is working on some mysterious thing, and having meetings on mysterious things, and taking work trips for mysterious reasons, there is nothing we can rightly expect from the DA team for a long while. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 20:31:41 GMT
Why do I keep hearing that DA might be getting dropped? I don't know what to believe anymore after the author of the downsizing article walked a lot of it back. My friend's source at Bioware (same one that leaked ME:A's romances and who wrote what character) said that, if the Secret IP doesn't do well, then DA4 may be in danger. They're on ice with EA. However, we don't have the context for that. It could have just been EA trying to scare them into doing their very best. Or it could have been someone exaggerating how angry EA is with them. Still, I'll assume the worst and buy a ton of the new IP to make sure they succeed enough to give us DA4. Just in case. If this is true, I will be cynical and hope that it means there will be a DA4 but future DA games will depend on DA4's profits. Because I can be selfish and be okay with just one more DA game, but I will be devastated if we don't get any further story after Trespasser. I would think that since the comics are still coming out EA must be invested enough in the IP to keep it active. |
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Post by VFerreira93 on May 16, 2017 20:37:11 GMT
I don't think DA is in danger. Rather, it might be under more pressure now to be successful since MEA didn't hold up its end of Bioware' revenue. Hopefully that means it will receive more resources and support, but I have a feeling it's the new IP that EA really wants to succeed. Gotta cash in on those multiplayer micro transactions I guess. It just sounds worryingly backwards to me - "We're going to make the continued existence of a studio known for single player RPGs contingent on their first multiplayer-focused game being a hit." Hopefully EA and Bioware know what they're doing... Edit: technically it's their second after SWTOR, but I think the spirit of my post still stands. They even mentioned that it would have "compelling stories and interesting characters you want to root for/fall in love with" or something between those lines, so yeah. Not having much faith in their writters when it comes to their new IP |
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Post by mrslothy on May 16, 2017 21:02:39 GMT
i said it before but i'll say it again:
i'll buy MEA when the price matches the proportion of care put into m/m content compared to other romances. if patch brings it up to this level (lol) i'll go out of my way to buy it at full price, otherwise, discounts will be the way to go.
i realize mea has more lgbt content than 90% of other games but i'm very pissed with biowares behaviour with this game.
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