mrslothy
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Post by mrslothy on May 16, 2017 21:04:16 GMT
Why do I keep hearing that DA might be getting dropped? I don't know what to believe anymore after the author of the downsizing article walked a lot of it back. My friend's source at Bioware (same one that leaked ME:A's romances and who wrote what character) said that, if the Secret IP doesn't do well, then DA4 may be in danger. They're on ice with EA. However, we don't have the context for that. It could have just been EA trying to scare them into doing their very best. Or it could have been someone exaggerating how angry EA is with them. Still, I'll assume the worst and buy a ton of the new IP to make sure they succeed enough to give us DA4. Just in case. i'm sad to hear this, i want da4, but i hope this ip plays up to the strenghts of bioware, otherwise i don't see the point :/ |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 16, 2017 21:13:08 GMT
My friend's source at Bioware (same one that leaked ME:A's romances and who wrote what character) said that, if the Secret IP doesn't do well, then DA4 may be in danger. They're on ice with EA. However, we don't have the context for that. It could have just been EA trying to scare them into doing their very best. Or it could have been someone exaggerating how angry EA is with them. Still, I'll assume the worst and buy a ton of the new IP to make sure they succeed enough to give us DA4. Just in case. i'm sad to hear this, i want da4, but i hope this ip plays up to the strenghts of bioware, otherwise i don't see the point :/ Yeah, I'm scared that it's going to be a very un-Bioware game. If that sells badly, then EA might halt DA4 production indefinitely. If that sells well, then we're in for Bioware losing that special quality that gave them such a loyal fanbase. |
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Post by mrslothy on May 16, 2017 21:18:13 GMT
i'm sad to hear this, i want da4, but i hope this ip plays up to the strenghts of bioware, otherwise i don't see the point :/ Yeah, I'm scared that it's going to be a very un-Bioware game. If that sells badly, then EA might halt DA4 production indefinitely. If that sells well, then we're in for Bioware losing that special quality that gave them such a loyal fanbase. i seem to remember some vague descriptions of the new IP and it didn't sound like something a rpg fan might be interested in. it just seems so retarded for da4 to hinge on a success of a market experiment. experiment has by it's very nature a high chance of failure :/ i kind of think this is ea's fault. we might be watching the last great days of bioware and it's making me really sad :/ |
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Post by VFerreira93 on May 16, 2017 21:21:45 GMT
i said it before but i'll say it again: i'll buy MEA when the price matches the proportion of care put into m/m content compared to other romances. if patch brings it up to this level (lol) i'll go out of my way to buy it at full price, otherwise, discounts will be the way to go. i realize mea has more lgbt content than 90% of other games but i'm very pissed with biowares behaviour with this game.You're not the only one, fellow brother. How they even managed to go this backwards after winning a GLAAD award with one their previous titles is trully beyond me  |
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Post by Ark on May 16, 2017 21:22:11 GMT
I vaguely remember when Bioware was working on SWTOR that EA wanted to move them to be more and more of an online game studio. They acquired and merged with Mythic (and Warhammer online), which has since disintegrated. Maybe EA is revisiting that model if the RPGs aren't meeting expectations.
Excuse me whilst I vomit.
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Post by mrslothy on May 16, 2017 21:37:33 GMT
omg i think the new ip might move in this direction.  if that is the case i won't touch the new ip with 10foot pole, let alone buy it. i have absolutely NO interest in an online title. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 21:48:04 GMT
New IP is supposed to be online only.
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Post by VFerreira93 on May 16, 2017 21:50:17 GMT
New IP is supposed to be online only.  I may have a problem with spanish memes  |
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Post by mrslothy on May 16, 2017 22:01:08 GMT
New IP is supposed to be online only. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!! i absolutely DESPISE online only games. argh! FUCK YOU EA! |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 22:17:58 GMT
Source“Dylan is, from what I understand, a sci-fi themed game, it is sort of Destiny-style, takes some elements from The Division, it has like MMO elements. Someone described it as a ‘semi-MMO’,” he said, as reported by IBTimes. ... BioWare stressed at the time that the game would be an action adventure, not an RPG. This makes complete sense, especially when you consider EA is the only big publisher without a shared-world MMO-style live game to its name.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 22:24:16 GMT
^ They publish SWTOR...
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Post by VFerreira93 on May 16, 2017 22:28:28 GMT
Source“Dylan is, from what I understand, a sci-fi themed game, it is sort of Destiny-style, takes some elements from The Division, it has like MMO elements. Someone described it as a ‘semi-MMO’,” he said, as reported by IBTimes. ... BioWare stressed at the time that the game would be an action adventure, not an RPG. This makes complete sense, especially when you consider EA is the only big publisher without a shared-world MMO-style live game to its name. I can already imagine its countless expansions and microtransactions coming left and right, sucking the money out of gamer's wallets. Unfortunately, we need this to succeed for DA4 to happen at some point...  |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 22:33:26 GMT
Isn't SWTOR considered RPG lite, though? It sounds like Bioware is trying to hint to everyone that this new IP is going to be action heavy and not an RPG at all. Which really doesn't appeal to me, regardless of being online only. Source“Dylan is, from what I understand, a sci-fi themed game, it is sort of Destiny-style, takes some elements from The Division, it has like MMO elements. Someone described it as a ‘semi-MMO’,” he said, as reported by IBTimes. ... BioWare stressed at the time that the game would be an action adventure, not an RPG. This makes complete sense, especially when you consider EA is the only big publisher without a shared-world MMO-style live game to its name. I can already imagine its countless expansions and microtransactions coming left and right, sucking the money out of gamer's wallets. Unfortunately, we need this to succeed for DA4 to happen at some point... I don't mind if Bioware makes this if it allows for DA4 to be made. But I'm increasingly worried that Bioware is going to become more and more MP based and their SP games will eventually disappear. Or at least MP will have more and more of an impact on the SP portion of games. IMO both DAI and MEA's combat systems in single player were designed to be similar to their MP systems and at least for DAI combat suffered as a result. |
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Post by Scottphoto on May 16, 2017 22:39:45 GMT
Source“Dylan is, from what I understand, a sci-fi themed game, it is sort of Destiny-style, takes some elements from The Division, it has like MMO elements. Someone described it as a ‘semi-MMO’,” he said, as reported by IBTimes. ... BioWare stressed at the time that the game would be an action adventure, not an RPG. This makes complete sense, especially when you consider EA is the only big publisher without a shared-world MMO-style live game to its name. I'm not sure how I feel is sci-fi themed. It's making it sound like a planned mass effect replacement if anything. I mean being sci-fi, it will make me more interested because its my jam but I do wonder if they will keep two similar themed franchises afloat. Plus it will make things more heated against Destiny. Anyway, I'm just venting nervously probably. The breaks between franchises is normal, we just have to hope the game sells a lot so we can continue to get the other franchises we like as well. Most of these games make profit through their online service a lot, even the one about cars called The Crew did well, so here's hoping the new IP becomes a stable way for them to get income to have budget for their single player games moving forward. EDIT: A list of job openings they are currently searching for www.linkedin.com/pulse/want-join-our-team-we-hiring-josca-remerie-bhrm-rpr |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 22:44:56 GMT
Source“Dylan is, from what I understand, a sci-fi themed game, it is sort of Destiny-style, takes some elements from The Division, it has like MMO elements. Someone described it as a ‘semi-MMO’,” he said, as reported by IBTimes. ... BioWare stressed at the time that the game would be an action adventure, not an RPG. This makes complete sense, especially when you consider EA is the only big publisher without a shared-world MMO-style live game to its name. I'm not sure how I feel is sci-fi themed. It's making it sound like a planned mass effect replacement if anything. I mean being sci-fi, it will make me more interested because its my jam but I do wonder if they will keep two similar themed franchises afloat. Plus it will make things more heated against Destiny. Anyway, I'm just venting nervously probably. The breaks between franchises is normal, we just have to hope the game sells a lot so we can continue to get the other franchises we like as well. Most of these games make profit through their online service a lot, even the one about cars called The Crew did well, so here's hoping the new IP becomes a stable way for them to get income to have budget for their single player games moving forward. Who knows? The IP has been in production for a while but since they greenlit MEA I don't know if they were considering the two franchises as competitors. Or perhaps the lack of support for MEA's development is a sign that EA was willing to milk the ME franchise without investing too much and were hoping most of their sci fi market would be covered by the new IP. I think they really just want to compete with the other large online games at the moment since successful ones bring in more money long term than single player games. It seems like the new IP is being developed regardless of how successful DA and ME are. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 16, 2017 22:51:53 GMT
What I don't get is why they're so eager to have another multiplayer IP when their one MMO did super badly, relatively speaking, and lost most of its playerbase anyways.
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Post by Ark on May 16, 2017 23:05:49 GMT
What I don't get is why they're so eager to have another multiplayer IP when their one MMO did super badly, relatively speaking, and lost most of its playerbase anyways. I don't think it would make much sense to make a game similar to SWTOR, cause yea, that was not a huge success. But they may be looking at titles like Overwatch and League of legends and thinking: "How can we cram our usual obsession of Call of Duty into THAT!?" I'm bitter. So very bitter. |
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Post by VFerreira93 on May 16, 2017 23:10:37 GMT
What I don't get is why they're so eager to have another multiplayer IP when their one MMO did super badly, relatively speaking, and lost most of its playerbase anyways. I don't think it would make much sense to make a game similar to SWTOR, cause yea, that was not a huge success. But they may be looking at titles like Overwatch and League of legends and thinking: "How can we cram our usual obsession of Call of Duty into THAT!?" I'm bitter. So very bitter. God have mercy on us all. Feeling a bit conflicted here: if I support this, then DA4 could happen while Bioware gradually losing their own gaming identity. And if I dont, mostly because I'm not that big of a online-based games fan, DA4 miht not even come to see the light. Ugh, why did Montreal had to screw up this badly?  |
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Post by mrslothy on May 16, 2017 23:38:40 GMT
I don't think it would make much sense to make a game similar to SWTOR, cause yea, that was not a huge success. But they may be looking at titles like Overwatch and League of legends and thinking: "How can we cram our usual obsession of Call of Duty into THAT!?" I'm bitter. So very bitter. God have mercy on us all. Feeling a bit conflicted here: if I support this, then DA4 could happen while Bioware gradually losing their own gaming identity. And if I dont, mostly because I'm not that big of a online-based games fan, DA4 miht not even come to see the light. Ugh, why did Montreal had to screw up this badly? well, i have no intention soiling myself with multiplayer, microtransactions and other bullshit in hopes this *may* help getting singleplayer rpgs done. no offense to people who play online, it's just not what i consider entertaining or have interest in, and have no intention of supporting it by giving it money. if that means bio gets lost in mimicry of skyrims, destinys, wow and similar type games, then it's been a nice ride, old games will keep me warm for years to come and i hope someday we will see a similar developer. but it will be a farewell |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 23:41:45 GMT
God have mercy on us all. Feeling a bit conflicted here: if I support this, then DA4 could happen while Bioware gradually losing their own gaming identity. And if I dont, mostly because I'm not that big of a online-based games fan, DA4 miht not even come to see the light. Ugh, why did Montreal had to screw up this badly? well, i have no intention soiling myself with multiplayer, microtransactions and other bullshit in hopes this *may* help getting singleplayer rpgs done. no offense to people who play online, it's just not what i consider entertaining or have interest in, and have no intention of supporting it by giving it money. if that means bio gets lost in mimicry of skyrims, destinys, wow and similar type games, then it's been a nice ride, old games will keep me warm for years to come and i hope someday we will see a similar developer. but it will be a farewell Yeah... I'm not going to purchase a game I have no interest in, not connected to DA in any way, just to supposedly support DA4. I don't even know that that would make a difference anyway. I'm even wary of a hypothetical DA strategy game, which I also have no interest in. But I would buy it because it's at least Dragon Age, and I'd want to see if it's connected to the series lore in some way. |
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