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Post by mediocreogre on Apr 4, 2021 3:35:28 GMT
There’s still tons of people who only play legendary. It’s a contentious debate about which is better. I’m really not sure but I play special mostly just cause it’s harder to port mods from special to legendary than older legendary mods to special. I do think the graphics they added to special are terrible and run like crap. The snow shader is an affront to god. Black snow? Wtf
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Post by Lee on Apr 4, 2021 3:41:25 GMT
I only have "special edition" on PS4. I love it though. I would get it for Xbox for the better mods, but honestly, I have bad luck with mods. It feels like every other new mod I try on fallout 4 (xbox) causes some major issues, so I just get exhausted with the whole experience. I have like a handful of mods I like on F4 and I stick with them, and when I play Skyrim (if I do again?) I'll probably just stick with mainly vanilla stuff anyway. Honestly though, without new content, I don't know if I'd replay again.
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Post by mediocreogre on Apr 4, 2021 13:47:03 GMT
I only have "special edition" on PS4. I love it though. I would get it for Xbox for the better mods, but honestly, I have bad luck with mods. It feels like every other new mod I try on fallout 4 (xbox) causes some major issues, so I just get exhausted with the whole experience. I have like a handful of mods I like on F4 and I stick with them, and when I play Skyrim (if I do again?) I'll probably just stick with mainly vanilla stuff anyway. Honestly though, without new content, I don't know if I'd replay again. Modding is kind of hard and the more complicated mods are (PS4 uses least complicated, pc most complicated) the more likely they are to need to be in specific places in how they load. Xbox is in the perfect grey zone to have complicated, load order sensitive mods but limited ability to patch and force load order. I’d also argue that FO4 mods are more likely to be messy. I have a heavily modded Skyrim (700 mods) that only crashes when NPCs try and access deleted Navmeshes from a couple messy mods I haven’t bothered to fix, where as my much smaller FO4 mod load order (200 and most of that is outfits and weapons) is super unstable and frustrating. but I did play SE on Xbone for a bit myself. It’s pretty easy to add non PS4 available mods like Bruma, Ordinator, armor packs, and not have crashes and have a much larger game at the end of it with more stuff to do and I ended up giving my xbone to my housemate and she plays Skyrim on it heavily modded with few crashes. FO4 not so much. |
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Post by mediocreogre on Aug 20, 2021 20:36:02 GMT
So the Skyrim Anniversary Edition is coming out 11/11/21 (10 years after the original… god I feel old) and I’ve been playing my modded Skyrim Special Edition having a blast and immediately became worried what this would mean in terms of breaking my mods and whether a truly new version of Skyrim was coming like with OG Skyrim vs SE Skyrim. Which divided the mod base for a year.
Here’s what I learned, their release videos were confusing but here’s the scoop:
It’s not a new edition of the game, really. It literally says at the end of the long release announcement that it is Special Edition plus the Creation Club content (the paid mods). If you have special edition, you appear to be able to get three free CC mods to celebrate the anniversary (survival mode, a new fishing thing, and something called saints and seducers) or Upgrade to the Anniversary Edition and pay some unknown amount of money for all the CC mods ever made. The exception being something about a “free upgrade” for people who own Skyrim Special Edition on Next gen PS5 and whatever Xbox is called to the anniversary edition on their next generation console. According to people who have played and tested the build for Bethesda, it appears that this will be the “end” of Creation Club, as when you own the Anniversary Edition, the Creation Club link at the start page is gone.
For modders: this is good news, as there will not be another delay as we update to another Script Extender version. It might require a slight update though as they might release this new game under a new “address” but we’ve kinda solved this in the modding scene already with a address reference library system. And SKSE mods will probably need to be updated when the new CC stuff hits the store but over years of annoying CC updates, this isn’t a big deal.
my opinion: this is not worth it unless you play on console as the CC stuff is of varying degrees of quality, and actually currently a lot of it counts toward your max mods and barrages you with quest clutter all at once. Unless that is changed for the “anniversary edition” I see no reason anyone would want it except console players who appear to be getting a pretty good deal.
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Post by dgcatanisiri on Aug 21, 2021 2:17:16 GMT
I was legit just WAITING for an announcement about a tenth anniversary edition.
There's never going to be an Elder Scrolls VI. We're just going to see an eternity of Skyrim re-releases.
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Post by Lee on Aug 21, 2021 3:51:43 GMT
I was legit just WAITING for an announcement about a tenth anniversary edition. There's never going to be an Elder Scrolls VI. We're just going to see an eternity of Skyrim re-releases. I'm just honestly shocked there's a free way into the party this time-minus the creator content that I probably don't want anyway-but if the "upgrade path" isn't too much I might consider it. but IDK...I'm kind of sick of skyrim honestly. my opinion: this is not worth it unless you play on console as the CC stuff is of varying degrees of quality, and actually currently a lot of it counts toward your max mods and barrages you with quest clutter all at once. Unless that is changed for the “anniversary edition” I see no reason anyone would want it except console players who appear to be getting a pretty good deal. I am not really feeling the urge to upgrade to the paid version at the moment, but I am curious to see what has been updated for the ps5 free version. I noticed that is looks a bit rough on my new tv, so some higher quality textures would be nice! |
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Post by mediocreogre on Aug 21, 2021 5:25:13 GMT
I was legit just WAITING for an announcement about a tenth anniversary edition. There's never going to be an Elder Scrolls VI. We're just going to see an eternity of Skyrim re-releases. I'm just honestly shocked there's a free way into the party this time-minus the creator content that I probably don't want anyway-but if the "upgrade path" isn't too much I might consider it. but IDK...I'm kind of sick of skyrim honestly. my opinion: this is not worth it unless you play on console as the CC stuff is of varying degrees of quality, and actually currently a lot of it counts toward your max mods and barrages you with quest clutter all at once. Unless that is changed for the “anniversary edition” I see no reason anyone would want it except console players who appear to be getting a pretty good deal. I am not really feeling the urge to upgrade to the paid version at the moment, but I am curious to see what has been updated for the ps5 free version. I noticed that is looks a bit rough on my new tv, so some higher quality textures would be nice! There’s two big unknowns yet: 1) what they mean by optimization. Supposedly, why PS5/Xbox whatever are “free” upgrades if you own SE on them is that this new version will be optimized for those consoles. 2) there are apparently almost 50% more CC mods that will come out that we don’t know much about, except fishing. but honestly, it’s just SE with CC. Nothing noteworthy really. |
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Post by mediocreogre on Aug 22, 2021 14:00:34 GMT
I was legit just WAITING for an announcement about a tenth anniversary edition. There's never going to be an Elder Scrolls VI. We're just going to see an eternity of Skyrim re-releases. Yeah…. Considering starfield is probably at least 2 years away (I don’t trust the 11/11/22 date), and there will be a delay between that and ES vi it’s very, very likely we’ll get a couple remasters of Fallout or older ES games. It’s also likely Skyrim will be 15 or possibly very close to 20 before it comes out. I’m expecting a full remaster of Skyrim before ES VI happens. (This does not make me happy, I’m just trying to come to terms with the fact that games are coming out so slowly that things I enjoyed in my youth will barely have progressed by my middle age). |
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Post by disgustednoise on Aug 23, 2021 1:34:32 GMT
Honestly, I used to love Skyrim and now I've become completely resentful of it lol.
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Post by mediocreogre on Aug 25, 2021 18:50:28 GMT
Yeah… I really dislike the open world hellscape Skyrim ushered in but the “games as service” and the endless versions of Skyrim are aspects where Bethesda is imitating other companies that were quicker to adopt these trends.
I hate the creation club but other games have these types of mini dlc in them from the get go, and while endless versions of Skyrim is a meme, releasing a game on different consoles after release is a fairly common practice. Special Edition might be divisive but it single handedly reignited the Skyrim modding scene to the point that there are more mods coming out for SE in 2020\2021 than there ever were for the original Skyrim. While it never remastered Skyrim, the changes under the hood are basically objectively better than the original Skyrim.
And that’s the only reason I still play Skyrim… which is kinda becoming the only reason I play games. Making my own assets, learning how to make animations, testing out other people’s mods, helping people mod their game…. That’s all I do if I am going to play video games anymore. I haven’t played the main quest in Skyrim in like 100 years but I play Skyrim as the only video game I play unless some new release catches my interest.
I guess I’m like the guys I knew as a kid who would tinker with old cars but instead I am tinkering with old games.
that said I think Anniversary Edition… is bad. But it seems like Bethesda cutting their losses on the terrible idea that was Creation Club.
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Post by mediocreogre on Nov 5, 2021 14:01:39 GMT
So, the Anniversary Edition…. Is rapidly becoming worse than they first implied.
1) we don’t really know the price. People are assuming the AE will be 40 US, but if you haven’t bought SE, it will be 60 US total as you have to have SE. But, no one knows and it’s days away.
2) Because they have to update the .NET framework of the game for achievements to work on the new consoles and other things for it to work, this will break all mods. Not just script mods. Textures might still work but even mods you got on Bethesda’s console app might no longer work with AE or if they update SE. this is what Bethesda just implied, there is some debate, but sounds problematic.
3) we know what the new “content” is. There’s really not that much game changing, it they do have a Dunmer themed quest with Morrowind style gear, and a Mythic Dawn/ Ayleid pack inspired by Oblivion. But it’s just a continuation of what we had….
All and all, it’s kinda killed my interest in Skyrim. Like I wasn’t going to buy it but having to update mods (or completely sever your game from updating) just sapped me of any interest lately. It’s rather disgusting that we have no idea how borked this will make SE, how divided the mod scene will be, how they’ll not spam new games with random quests telling them to start their CC quests, if these will count to mod limits, or even just the price, and it comes out in a few days.
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Post by Lee on Nov 5, 2021 21:21:32 GMT
The combo of not announcing the price or starting preorders makes me wonder if there's going to be a delay honestly.
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Post by Andrew Mancer on Nov 5, 2021 23:01:04 GMT
...I honestly don't understand why SE even needs to be affected by this release....or why this release is even a thing in the first place......
I really hope this doesn't break my mods because I like my game as it is and I honestly have no idea which ones I even have anymore of if they are still available/will be updated...
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Post by mediocreogre on Nov 5, 2021 23:13:08 GMT
They just announced price (like who cares really lol I don’t want this stuff), so from nothing it is 49.99 USD, upgrading SE is 19.99 USD.
Again we still don’t really know how much the forced patch will break.
On PC you can stop the patch if you own through Steam, there are guides online.
On console I am not sure but there might be a way?
Edit: they are walking back that the 11/11 update will break any console mods. Which is good news. Seems like someone at Bethesda was confused…. On how their own product works.
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Post by Andrew Mancer on Nov 5, 2021 23:30:12 GMT
Looks like the same thing just happened to Fallout 3, and I think it broke some of my mods. But there seems to be a fix for that one now...
Hopefully it isn't too much damage or someone finds a way to revert it back after the "upgrade"...
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Post by mediocreogre on Nov 5, 2021 23:31:30 GMT
Looks like the same thing just happened to Fallout 3, and I think it broke some of my mods. But there seems to be a fix for that one now... Hopefully it isn't too much damage or someone finds a way to revert it back after the "upgrade"... ….. they updated Fallout 3 lol ?! |
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Post by Lee on Nov 6, 2021 12:10:20 GMT
The Fallout 3 update "The title no longer requires Games for Windows Live and will now launch." I remember seeing that windows live sticker on the box for that game when I looked at the pc version back then. Though I didn't even have a decent-ish pc at that point so I didn't even look into that whole spill. Sounds like a pain though, just like all the games throttled by Origin and it's constant need to update and take for freaking ever to do so.  Good to be free, but sucks that it broke mods though! |
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Post by mediocreogre on Nov 7, 2021 1:18:12 GMT
Apparently Xbox mods will likely break, meaning a whole lot of PC mods might break (more than just script based mods). Something to do with improving graphics, performance, and loading times on the new consoles.
but also we aren’t sure cause supposedly there’s actually an improved version of SE coming to next gen consoles, we aren’t sure if that affects older consoles or PC?
it’s confusing
also we get all the old CC stuff plus 2 larger quest mods, a few smaller ones, some new homes, staves, armors, spells, red guard stuff, stuff from eso, stuff from the mobile game, a farming system, and fishing.
so 20 USD for all that is less obnoxious but the mod issue is frustrating.
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Post by mediocreogre on Nov 14, 2021 14:27:14 GMT
The mod apocalypse came, and it seems it wasn’t too bad for consoles, although I do know some friends who say they can’t play on Xbox cause something about the update is causing frequent crashes.
PC… is a nightmare. SKSE is sort of on the way, but so many SKSE mods are no longer being supported, and will never update. And while some are fine to lose, we have essential mods like Engine Fixes, which basically fixes a bunch of bugs Bethesda has never fixed in 10 years and 10 versions of Skyrim.
So I decided I won’t be updating for the foreseeable future.
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Post by dgcatanisiri on Nov 14, 2021 20:57:29 GMT
You gotta wonder who at Bethesda thought up “hey, let’s break the system that makes our most successful game ever playable, the players are gonna love this!”
Of course, being Bethesda, they probably got a bonus and were Todd Howard himself...
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