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Post by nickclark89 on Aug 28, 2022 10:23:49 GMT
I'm wondering is if I can piss them off every chance I can without screwing myself up from a good ending¿ I know you can get a good ending with ditching one of the 3 non-native factions, but IDK about ditching 2 of them. There is a wiki with ending info out there though, so if you want I can look into it more. Just holler at me on Twitter or here. I know there are two decisions in the end cause I had to spoil myself to know what all drama-fuss was about back in the day I'm talking about to Kill or not kill your cousin and that you are native with no dreadlocks and I have read you can make a change of leader in the Bridge Alliance so maybe I should try to be more open-minded with them and maybe redeem their factions, but the experiments put me off so much t.t maybe Theleme are the same I dont know but ofc I'm siding with the natives and merchants every time I can, In Technomancer if I remember correctly you only need 3 factions to help you against the big bad in the end edit. yeah I keep reading you need friendly rep with the factions to get the best ending, I guess I'm gonna pull a Leliana and being sneaky about it, let the Orlais game begins lol
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Post by dgcatanisiri on Aug 28, 2022 12:13:49 GMT
I ended up pissing off the Alliance but having everyone else allied with me at the endgame, so in the epilogues, the response of all the other factions after the fact is “...dude, that was an existential threat and you sat back and did NOTHING?” and having them all snubbing the Alliance. It amused me.
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Post by Lee on Aug 28, 2022 13:50:59 GMT
nickclark89 That's the thing about the factions. They all kind of start out shit, but if you make the moral choices throughout you make them better.
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Post by farferello on Aug 29, 2022 4:29:34 GMT
The Bridge Alliance, and Theleme both suck but I find I hate the Bridge Alliance even more just because of the events they cause in the game. My first playthrough I went full on 'fuck you' with them and finished the game with the other three Alliances. It was kinda fun when they got shunned by everyone else. The only time where I purposefully pissed off both the Bridge Alliance, and Theleme was when I sided with Constantin at the end and at that point it didn't really matter what Alliances I had. The only thing that sucks about that ending is Kurt dying. But at least Vasco, and Siora survive it. Otherwise I generally get all the factions on side whilst still calling out their bullshit.
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Post by nickclark89 on Aug 30, 2022 7:09:15 GMT
that sounds fine for me! I will try to reform the shitty factions and be less blunt and more backstabbing I just found this article, it seems romances are going to be more impactful to the story, and we will have up to 7 companions this time unlike the usual 5 from past games www.ign.com/articles/greedfall-2-spiders-bioware-rpgs guurl I hope thats true for everyone and that does not mean more content for straights again
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Post by disgustednoise on Aug 30, 2022 8:25:02 GMT
That sounds awesome as long as they don't do the 2 straight/2bi bullshit like it's 2009 again.
Don't gender lock your romances if you don't have the resources to give everyone multiple options. Do that challenge.
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Post by farferello on Aug 30, 2022 10:47:15 GMT
I hope the romance content is also more... spread through the game also. You could unlock Vasco's romance very quickly and then spend a good chunk with nothing and feeling like it didn't exist outside of the changed greeting, until you reached the end scene. Though considering how the first game ended with the two choices, I'm wondering what sort of twist they will give us in a pre-sequel. They did my boy Constantin dirty with that ending. 7 companions could either be interesting or a chore depending on what they do with them. I'm still watching this from the sidelines though because if they don't improve the romances and only do straight/bi again I'm not going to be thrilled.
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Post by Lee on Aug 30, 2022 11:10:16 GMT
I am curious to see what they will do in this situation. Prequels are almost always a bad idea (for me anyway), but hopefully it'll be such a different story that it feels like a whole different thing. That's the only way I could see it not sucking. As for the romances, I don't hold out much hope of them doing better by us sadly.
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Post by nickclark89 on Feb 19, 2023 16:17:35 GMT
I'm playing this game right now after my revisited DAI canon run (I think I have plenty of time before BG3 ) and lurking this thread again to see if I'm doing ok I found these I didnt even remember haha hopefully is true for the prequel Vasco's romance can be done so early in the game, like.. I have his poem waiting so I can progress in the main story cause the pacing is shit haha I really like him though, I think his character is more interesting than Kurt, as much as two bi two straights is an annoying homophobic approach, Kurt is not a big lose for me personally, IDK but in The Technomancer I felt the characters and Andrew's romance more alive but maybe thats just me. About my run I took -1 Theleme points cause I wanted to pissed the inquisitor off, that scene burning the beast alive and killing the native was so fucking wrong and I felt so powerless, the game should have let us save them (I think I took -1 for the Bridge Alliance as well defending Siora) hopefully roleplay -even with diplomacy- does not lock me out of the good ending
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Post by Andrew Mancer on Feb 19, 2023 21:50:07 GMT
nickclark89 You're definitely not alone in thisnking the characters in Technomancer felt more alive! I Believe I mentioned that in the post I made about why I stopped playing the game. It definitely had some pacing issues as well! I remember liking Vasco but I don't think I got far enough to complete the romance. (I think I was putting it off for a bit to not rush it). Sometimes I wish I finished this game but it didn't keep me engaged enough. At this point I would just have to restart it lol.
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Post by dgcatanisiri on Feb 20, 2023 0:32:22 GMT
Yeah, the character stuff is so out of balance with the plot progression - I think I had Vasco locked and fully romanced before the ten hour mark before carrying on for another twenty. Meanwhile, there's Aphra, who, as a character, I honestly find myself in a place of almost forgetting she's even there, because she comes in so late and has so little to actually DO.
As for the endings, you should be good - you'll have multiple chances to raise and lower your reputation with the factions throughout, so a negative mark doesn't spell instant bad ending.
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Post by Lee on Feb 20, 2023 3:09:08 GMT
The funny thing is if you delay the final quest for Vasco you get more (though slight) content with him. If you wait till you do the questline for his faction, then do his last quest you can get a tattoo and it just makes it feel more like a fleshed-out relationship. It's just hard to resist getting that little bit of romance for so long. I do it every run (minus my first mind you).
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Post by farferello on Feb 20, 2023 5:04:15 GMT
The pacing is so weird in the game. You can lock his romance in so early and then it practically doesn't exist for the rest of the game (unless you talk to him and get his changed greeting) until the very end of the game when it comes back to life again for a scene.
I really hope things are different in the prequel but I don't trust them at this point.
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Post by nickclark89 on Feb 20, 2023 8:22:23 GMT
The funny thing is if you delay the final quest for Vasco you get more (though slight) content with him. If you wait till you do the questline for his faction, then do his last quest you can get a tattoo and it just makes it feel more like a fleshed-out relationship. It's just hard to resist getting that little bit of romance for so long. I do it every run (minus my first mind you). wait whaaaaat? I didnt know this, the urge to go back now to do this is huge edit. well fuck I'm gonna do this, I still have months til BG3, but I'm like 20 hours in already and just killed the nadaig boss yesterday and that was one hell of annoying fight ... the tattoo is kinda ugly though lol I'm glad my character have a stubble
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Post by Lee on Feb 21, 2023 6:44:31 GMT
wait whaaaaat? I didnt know this, the urge to go back now to do this is huge edit. well fuck I'm gonna do this, I still have months til BG3, but I'm like 20 hours in already and just killed the nadaig boss yesterday and that was one hell of annoying fight ... the tattoo is kinda ugly though lol I'm glad my character have a stubble I'm not overly fond of the tat either, but I like the implications so I put up with it.
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Post by nickclark89 on Feb 21, 2023 10:38:00 GMT
I'm not overly fond of the tat either, but I like the implications so I put up with it. yeah for sure! it does really give a lot of deep to the romance as you said, so its worth it for sure! I went back yesterday and deleted some saves and found the one before his third quest, fortunetely I'm a save maniac its a shame the little effort they did with the mlm romance behind scenes, I would have enjoyed this game more but its a good placeholder game in the meantime I wait for BG3, so theres that!
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Post by disgustednoise on Feb 21, 2023 14:08:43 GMT
Ain't no man alive with an ass hot enough for me to get a face tattoo.
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Post by nickclark89 on Mar 4, 2023 21:02:14 GMT
I finally got to the point of the tattoo and Vasco's romance scene, it was cute even though the animation is a blatant "copy & paste" lol its a shame how they dropped the ball for the mlm romance after doing a good job with Andrew. Not to mention that the only mlm character -besides Vasco- I found is Kurt's ra**st abuser, I dont know what kind of message was that but was very off-putting and totally unnecessary. They gave us Siora and Vasco, but with another two straight characters so the evolution in the right direction in Technomancer was tainted with more of the same 1 queer 2 straight bs (per gender), I'm very curious of what they are going to do in the second game. my legate boy is a cutie with that tat though Reputation wise, Theleme and the Alliance are still a bitch, but I'm getting there, hopefully I'm doing fine to get the good ending
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Post by dgcatanisiri on Mar 4, 2023 23:43:12 GMT
Honestly, in retrospect, there's a part of me that sorta suspects that Andrew was such a well written M/M romance because there was no female player option, that there was a thought of having that female player at some point, Andrew was written for her, and then they cut the female player and locked the character as male while, rather than making the choice to actively give gay players something, it was decided just to keep the romance in there. Something about the fact that he and Zach have that narrative connection and the references Neisha makes that imply that she and Andrew had a thing at some point... It makes that conspiratorial part of my brain go 'hmm...'
It's not like I have any evidence of this or anything, so take that theorizing with as much salt as you want, but... It is something I kinda wonder about.
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Post by nickclark89 on Mar 11, 2023 14:30:23 GMT
Finished Greedfall and got the good ending! I was kinda worried about Theleme being at nice but it was ok at the end (I pissed them off like three times lmao), we know Greedfall 2 is gonna be a prequel but the day they decide to do a sequel to the first game I dont know what they gonna do, the plot and all the problems are pretty much solved in the good ending, it is like in The Technomancer, everything is wrapped up and pointing to a brighter future which I appreciate it if I'm being honest. However, Constantin going mad and bad all the sudden was kinda meh and out of place About gameplay stuff it was way better than in Technomancer but it was kinda annoying sometimes, especially in the beginning and Spiders needs to implement a jump system or something cause those invisible walls are just ridiculous. The game offers me little to make me do another playthrough besides trying sapphic Siora romance but I have sooo many sapphic runs of other games I would love to do and knowing how slow and lazy I am with rpgs + that still have lots of rpgs with mlm options to play that I havent touched yet... I doubt is gonna happen in my lifetime lol (AND! BG3 and Starfield at the same time CRAZY) Vasco final scene was really cute and I'm happy the romance was mentioned in the epilogue I'm cautiously optimistic about better romance content in the second game, wish I could say the same about the distribution but thats a problem for the future. Needless to say that I'm glad I played both The Technomancer and Greedfall on this rpg gayming hiatus, they were what I need to calm my thirstiness
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