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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 1:37:47 GMT
Just met this guy. It's a crime he's not a romance option. I forgot how hot he was........
So I've had a busy few days in Thedas. Natia Brosca made the ultimate sacrifice, leaving behind a bitter and angry hardened Leliana.
In the meantime, Warden Commander Astyth Kader was appointed in Amaranthine. She's a tough older lady surface dwarf from Orlais. She recruited all of the potential companions (SIGRUN!), pragmatically protected Vigils' Keep during the siege, killed the Architect and the Mother, then followed rumors to track down Morrigan and find out what role she played in the Fifth Blight. When she wasn't satisfied with Morrigan's elusive answers, she was forced to attack her and watch her fall through the eluvian after stabbing her. So now I'm onto Dragon Age II. I'm only an hour into it and I'm reminded how much I hate everything about this fucking game. Oh well, I'm still gonna give it a playthrough. I've never done a rogue playthrough, so Bethany's getting a chance to see the world for once. RIP Carver. I love that character so much, it's going to be hard to play through this shitty game without him. Griffin Hawke is an aggressive dual wield rogue with a strong family bond and a no-nonsense attitude. He's going to end up romancing Fenris, I think. But I'll keep you posted.
I always change my Hawke's appearance for each "Act" to show the passing of time. Started him with a real scruffy Ferelden look. He'll start looking more and more like an upperclass Free Marcher as the story progresses. "Prologue" "Act One" - even scruffier after living as a merc in the slums for a year And here's Bethany (she looks like Saleisha from ANTM)
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 9, 2018 3:46:34 GMT
So! I'm starting a complete playthrough that mirrors a world state I made in the Keep. It follows Adala Tabris -> Marian Hawke -> Hissera Adaar on their journeys throughout Thedas. Names subject to change because I can't make up my mind about anything. Adala Tabris is a free-spirited archer who's violently protective of her family and is Not About™ this marriage business. She's not the settling-down type, see, and as far as she's concerned her life as a free woman will be over!!1 if she marries some 'soft Highever houseboy who doesn't know the pommel of a dagger from the pointy end'. But she loves her dad and wants to make him proud, even if it means living the sort of boring domestic life she's always dreaded. So despite her grumbling she shuffles off to meet her groom, and finds herself..... unreasonably taken with this mild-mannered stranger and his boyish charm! Damn it all, she wanted to hate him and he took the wind right out of her sails by not being an asshole. She could be someone's wife, she thinks. Maybe... maybe it's not as bad as all that. (Really, when you say stuff like, "I'll spend every waking moment learning to make you happy," even hard-hearted badasses like Adala are bound to get butterflies. ) Aaand that's where we're at so far. Life's about to get seriously upended in the Denerim alienage, but for this brief moment in time, things are calm. [Narrator voice: things did not stay calm.]
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 9, 2018 7:35:03 GMT
...I started this City Elf playthrough a few hours ago and already I'm like WELP TIME TO DO A SIMULTANEOUS PLAYTHROUGH WITH MY CIRCLE MAGE. Stupid sexy Morrigan! So as Adala Tabris's increasingly horrible day goes from bad to worse, Caius Amell's life of leisure (and trolololing his teachers and his best friend and that tetchy templar with the noodle hair) comes to an end as he finds himself caught up in Jowan's bad decisions, aka Jowan's entire life. There was a lot of blood involved and a talking statue and he's really not responsible for any of this, really, he just wants to take a nap.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 15:24:31 GMT
Is Bethany always this vanilla? Geez, she's like eggshell colored walls. Or white rice with no seasoning. I've only played a single non-mage playthrough ever so she's like a new character for me. But I'm really struggling to make any connection to her. Carver is a million times more compelling (even if he is an insufferable shit) than she is. It's almost enough to make me start over.....but not quite because that would require me to replay the three or four hours that I've dropped into this shit-bag game already. LOL. Or is it......?
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Post by disgustednoise on Dec 9, 2018 18:39:29 GMT
Is Bethany always this vanilla? Geez, she's like eggshell colored walls. Or white rice with no seasoning. I've only played a single non-mage playthrough ever so she's like a new character for me. But I'm really struggling to make any connection to her. Carver is a million times more compelling (even if he is an insufferable shit) than she is. It's almost enough to make me start over.....but not quite because that would require me to replay the three or four hours that I've dropped into this shit-bag game already. LOL. Or is it......? Bethany is fucking awful and the worst written companion by far.
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Post by c_cat on Dec 9, 2018 18:56:48 GMT
Is Bethany always this vanilla? Geez, she's like eggshell colored walls. Or white rice with no seasoning. I've only played a single non-mage playthrough ever so she's like a new character for me. But I'm really struggling to make any connection to her. Carver is a million times more compelling (even if he is an insufferable shit) than she is. It's almost enough to make me start over.....but not quite because that would require me to replay the three or four hours that I've dropped into this shit-bag game already. LOL. Or is it......? God luck! I played warrior my first playthrough and rogue my second, after completing my mage playthrough I've never once managed to play without Carver. Love him!
I tried to start a new DAI playthrough yesterday and the Keep was down. Tried again today but got stuck in the terrain. Ragequit!
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 9, 2018 19:55:15 GMT
I like Bethany a lot - even if I never see her bc I almost always play a mage, and I do prefer Carver as a character - but that's probably because I see a lot of myself in her. Quiet and unassuming and disinclined to start trouble LOL.
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Dec 10, 2018 1:09:04 GMT
So... Though I have over 1200 hours logged on Steam between them (Predominantly Origins but still over 250 in DAII) it's been ages since I properly played through the first two games. I'm thinking to do a run through all three, not necessarily as a prelude to DA4 as that's still a while away, but to keep them fresh in my mind. What I'm dithering over is whether to do a "canon" playthrough or try shaking things up a bit. Leaning towards the former as it's ages since I did the Morrigan and Isabela romances, and I've been feeling nostalgic for them. Also I want to play sarcastic female Hawke again. Also, it's 9 years since Origins came out. Crap, I'm old...
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 10, 2018 1:34:19 GMT
So... Though I have over 1200 hours logged on Steam between them (Predominantly Origins but still over 250 in DAII) it's been ages since I properly played through the first two games. I'm thinking to do a run through all three, not necessarily as a prelude to DA4 as that's still a while away, but to keep them fresh in my mind. What I'm dithering over is whether to do a "canon" playthrough or try shaking things up a bit. Leaning towards the former as it's ages since I did the Morrigan and Isabela romances, and I've been feeling nostalgic for them. Also I want to play sarcastic female Hawke again. Also, it's 9 years since Origins came out. Crap, I'm old... This is me! I started two new world states recently; we'll see if I have the drive to get them done before DA4 comes out (I'm lazy and slow and would rather talk about games than play them it seems, LOL). I'm mostly gonna make the same choices, it's just my PC and LI that'll vary. I'll have a Zevran -> Isabela -> Sera world state and a Morrigan -> Fenris -> Sera world state.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 1:42:39 GMT
I'm doing a "shake things up" playthrough of the trilogy right now. Not totally shaken up, but choosing reasonable choices that aren't my canon. It will be interesting to see how (if it at all) it feels different when I load all of that into the keep for DA:I.
I'm also torn on my character for DA:I. My canon is a two-handed warrior male qunari. My alts are a dual wield rogue male dwarf and a ranged rogue female dwarf. So I think I want to do a mage (since this playthrough has two rogues and a warrior). But I can't decide if I should do a male elf (for the lore piece, even if I will despise every second of playing as a skinny little elf guy) or a male qunari (he'll look more like I want, but what else will he offer that's different?).
That being said, I already desperately miss my canon. And now I kind of want to do another trilogy playthrough shortly so that I can see my canon. I miss Lochlyn Aeducan (my KISA dwarf noble sword/shield Warden) and Garrett Hawke (my sarcastic mage Hawke, complete with Carver!).
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 10, 2018 10:36:38 GMT
Made a new Inquisitor. Not done with the last one but having the Bi-Cullen mod installed and not being able to use it was frustrating me. Now I have a Trevelyan mage Inquisitor. He's going heavy on Cullen right now. He's on the fence about Circles. His experiences weren't terrible but he's getting a look at multiple sides. Vivienne is blinded by power and unable to see the abuses in the Circles since she's personally able to kill nobles if it pleases her to do so. Solas is an apostate who consorts with spirits on a regular basis and has never been possessed. Tevinter mages want nothing to do with the Tranquil - but the existence of Tranquil themselves is problematic (should any mage be made Tranquil?). Met Connor in Redcliffe and the guilt he still carries makes him believe that the presence of Templars is vital to protecting others from possessed mages. And then attempting to romance a former Knight-Commander of the Templars. Not sure how this will all play out. I want to recruit the Templars but I despise "Champions of the Just". Much better prefer "In Hushed Whispers". Still one or two levels of power away from having to make a decision.
EDIT: I did create a world state tailored for this. Most of the choices are irrelevant but there are some that matter. Hawke is a mage who romanced Fenris. Anders was killed by Hawke even though he sided with the mages. Varric kept some red lyrium for study. Connor's mother sacrificed herself to save him. Carver is a Grey Warden (which really should impact the whole Grey Warden storyline where Hawke is concerned). Alistair is the sole ruler of Ferelden. I left the Architect alive but suspect it makes no difference.
So far, I saw references to the survivors of DA2, even Carver. Mention of the red lyrium idol. Met Connor. I'm hoping more comes up, maybe even the fact that the Warden was a female dwarf who sacrificed herself to defeat the Archdemon.
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Post by Catilina on Dec 10, 2018 12:56:35 GMT
Made a new Inquisitor. Not done with the last one but having the Bi-Cullen mod installed and not being able to use it was frustrating me. Now I have a Trevelyan mage Inquisitor. He's going heavy on Cullen right now. He's on the fence about Circles. His experiences weren't terrible but he's getting a look at multiple sides. Vivienne is blinded by power and unable to see the abuses in the Circles since she's personally able to kill nobles if it pleases her to do so. Solas is an apostate who consorts with spirits on a regular basis and has never been possessed. Tevinter mages want nothing to do with the Tranquil - but the existence of Tranquil themselves is problematic (should any mage be made Tranquil?). Met Connor in Redcliffe and the guilt he still carries makes him believe that the presence of Templars is vital to protecting others from possessed mages. And then attempting to romance a former Knight-Commander of the Templars. Not sure how this will all play out. I want to recruit the Templars but I despise "Champions of the Just". Much better prefer "In Hushed Whispers". Still one or two levels of power away from having to make a decision.
EDIT: I did create a world state tailored for this. Most of the choices are irrelevant but there are some that matter. Hawke is a mage who romanced Fenris. Anders was killed by Hawke even though he sided with the mages. Varric kept some red lyrium for study. Connor's mother sacrificed herself to save him. Carver is a Grey Warden (which really should impact the whole Grey Warden storyline where Hawke is concerned). Alistair is the sole ruler of Ferelden. I left the Architect alive but suspect it makes no difference. So far, I saw references to the survivors of DA2, even Carver. Mention of the red lyrium idol. Met Connor. I'm hoping more comes up, maybe even the fact that the Warden was a female dwarf who sacrificed herself to defeat the Archdemon. You absolutely can go for mages and ally with them – I love Cullen's reaction, he still can't trust the mages... Have confidence, (Knight-)Commander! (Eh, I would like to see a hard rivalry with him, as a mage, rather that sweet nothing – but maybe it's just me. This romance must be harder. This romance, especially with a mage – has potential. Many wasted opportunity. His redemption line just so weak for me, and this is okay, if he still a Templar in his heart, but the Inquisitor don't have a word against anything what he says, but able to ask, that this is a problem, s/he's a mage? The former prey comforts the hunter – seems a little bit grotesque to me...)
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Dec 10, 2018 23:05:07 GMT
I'm not sure how many times I've played through Ostagar. It's a LOT, but this is the first since I played The Witcher 3. Weird to hear Jo Wyatt's Ciri voice coming out of a random soldier...
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 11, 2018 3:17:32 GMT
Gave my Tabris a name change and now I'm milling around Ostagar. I'm so used to playing dwarves that it feels weird to get into the RP headspace of an elf... like, my Broscas are amazed at the surface, at having random people not treat them like trash, and my Aeducans feel simultaneously out of their element and in control, because even though the environment's wrong they are still an Aeducan and there's no doubt they're in charge. And then there's my little Tabris, wide-eyed at having actual POWER for once, but wary of all these shems barking like dogs. She has a strong sense of self but is more insecure about her place in the world. I'm having fun with her.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 4:26:44 GMT
Gave my Tabris a name change and now I'm milling around Ostagar. I'm so used to playing dwarves that it feels weird to get into the RP headspace of an elf... like, my Broscas are amazed at the surface, at having random people not treat them like trash, and my Aeducans feel simultaneously out of their element and in control, because even though the environment's wrong they are still an Aeducan and there's no doubt they're in charge. And then there's my little Tabris, wide-eyed at having actual POWER for once, but wary of all these shems barking like dogs. She has a strong sense of self but is more insecure about her place in the world. I'm having fun with her. My favorite moment is when your Brosca first gets to explore the camp at Ostagar and is called ‘my lady’ by the guards. I like to have her stand at the edge of the cliff, staring out at the vast open sky, and be absolutely stunned at receiving respect from these total strangers after a lifetime of being treated like dwarf garbage by their kin. Really a compelling moment that makes me enjoy Brosca playthroughs a lot, even if they aren’t my canon.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 4:38:51 GMT
So here any update: I really dislike DA2. I just started Act 2 and.....it’s a slog. I hate the gameplay. I hate being forced to be a human. I hate the repetitive locations. I’m genuinely considering just getting to the Fenris romance (because of that Gideon voice) and just cutting my losses by using the keep to shortcut my way to a new DA:I play through. DA 2 is really garbage. Ugh. Help me!
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 11, 2018 4:38:59 GMT
Gave my Tabris a name change and now I'm milling around Ostagar. I'm so used to playing dwarves that it feels weird to get into the RP headspace of an elf... like, my Broscas are amazed at the surface, at having random people not treat them like trash, and my Aeducans feel simultaneously out of their element and in control, because even though the environment's wrong they are still an Aeducan and there's no doubt they're in charge. And then there's my little Tabris, wide-eyed at having actual POWER for once, but wary of all these shems barking like dogs. She has a strong sense of self but is more insecure about her place in the world. I'm having fun with her. My favorite moment is when your Brosca first gets to explore the camp at Ostagar and is called ‘my lady’ by the guards. I like to have her stand at the edge of the cliff, staring out at the vast open sky, and be absolutely stunned at receiving respect from these total strangers after a lifetime of being treated like dwarf garbage by their kin. Really a compelling moment that makes me enjoy Brosca playthroughs a lot, even if they aren’t my canon. Oh man, it's been so long since I played a lady Brosca that I'd completely forgotten about that! Though my city elf certainly appreciates being addressed as such. Wrapping things up in the Korcari Wilds now. Then Morrigan shows up and UGH I LOVE HER SO MUCH, I want to romance her but alas, that's another playthrough.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 11, 2018 4:41:20 GMT
So here any update: I really dislike DA2. I just started Act 2 and.....it’s a slog. I hate the gameplay. I hate being forced to be a human. I hate the repetitive locations. I’m genuinely considering just getting to the Fenris romance (because of that Gideon voice) and just cutting my losses by using the keep to shortcut my way to a new DA:I play through. DA 2 is really garbage. Ugh. Help me! I'm afraid I can't help you, as I adore DA2. Only suggestion I have is to play on easy mode so you can get through the combat faster and get on to the meat of the story.
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 11, 2018 15:27:44 GMT
I'm think about my Trevelyan mage becoming leader of the Inquisition. Then the idea of Circles. Can a leader like him actually be part of a Circle? Could any Templar even get near him if he went mad? If he never becomes an abomination, doesn't that weaken the position of those who believe the Circles are required?
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Post by Catilina on Dec 11, 2018 19:11:37 GMT
I'm think about my Trevelyan mage becoming leader of the Inquisition. Then the idea of Circles. Can a leader like him actually be part of a Circle? Could any Templar even get near him if he went mad? If he never becomes an abomination, doesn't that weaken the position of those who believe the Circles are required? Vivienne can be a candidate of the Divine's position... (magister-Divine... Black Divine... every pious Southern Andrastian's worst nightmare) after that she cried, that Anders ruined the mages' nice image in the eyes of the orlesian nobles... Just think about it: an abomination on the Sunburst throne! No, the mages aren't walking bombs. Not mentioned, not that hard to kill an abomination... there are many mages or templars in the Inquisition.
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