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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 9:43:46 GMT
nocte , I was thinking more along the lines of a practical scenario where subterfuge might be involved. For example, let's say you need to sneak into a certain place to look at some documents. An elf posing as a servant might draw less attention to themselves than just wandering in. A qunari or dwarf might be out of place in that same scenario. As far as qunari there in general, to a qunari Inquisitor, Dorian makes mention of having interacted with Tal'Vashoth merchants and such in the past, but also notes that there is quite a bit of prejudice. I'll assume that this, along with his unique physicality (makes him pretty obvious, even among other qunari), is why the Dorian/Bull relationship still has them meeting occasionally outside of Minrathous. Even a qunari Inquisitor could blend in a bit more with the local qunari than Iron Bull can. If they're going to have multi-race selection again, the situation will likely be more difficult than we encountered in DAO and DAI. The reason those games mostly work with multi-race is because the PC is in a position that transcends race, being the Warden or Inquisitor. Are there some remarks here and there? Sure, but the gameplay is not affected in any appreciable way. Some people didn't like this aspect of DAI, but we also had it in DAO, and I think it makes perfect sense for those specific scenarios. I personally do not want another omni-leader type of position like the Warden or Inquisitor. It certainly does give them a great opportunity to flesh out how Tevinter society functions beyond mage and slave. They got into a little bit with Krem's background, but there is still so much more. I hope they take advantage of it. Speaking of these type of scenarios... what happens in DAO when you play dress up as a guard and do the Rescue Anora mission as a non-human? My first play was as a dwarf, but that was back in 2009, so I don't remember at all. All subsequent complete plays were human.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 24, 2017 18:22:00 GMT
I hope that they do something with the idea of Tal-Vashoth residing in the Imperium in DA4. It makes sense, after all. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." If you're fleeing the Qun up North, going to Tevinter seems like a good idea. It's not like they'll give you back to their enemy, right? Especially if you're a mage.
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Post by blastoandbubin on May 24, 2017 19:16:33 GMT
True, and I definitely appreciate that, but I can't help but want the Virmire decisions to affect the straight characters this time around. I get tired of the expendable characters so often being lgbt with the fairy tale (or as close to fairy tale as Bioware gets) endings nearly always being reserved for the straight characters. Heck, if they managed that and finally got over their reliance on the shifty apostate trope, their fan tear moments might regain an element of surprise. DAI's main mages counter that. Dorian is a good guy, Solas is actually a surprise (well, he was to me), Vivienne is... Vivienne and is pretty direct about her motivations. The only holdover is Morrigan. I'm confused, that's why I said apostates? There's obviously been several nice non-apostate mages that don't do anything shifty (I don't consider Dorian an apostate as he grew up in a country where that concept doesn't seem to exist). I'm just saying...Morrigan, Anders (circle mage initially, of course, but he ends up an apostate), Merrill to an extent although nothing she does is game-changing, Solas... I don't know, lol, maybe I'm just naturally cynical but whenever a mage that flouts Chantry or Circle rules pops up anymore I'm immediately suspicious they're gonna pull something down the line. I'll admit I may be extra sensitive to the irritating bi tropes in the games, though. I don't even want a Cullen or Alistair-esq ending for myself since that's not really my thing, I just think it'd be nice if our plot important characters got some sappy Disney endings thrown our way every now and then. Even things out a little. |
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Post by Catilina on May 24, 2017 19:29:39 GMT
DAI's main mages counter that. Dorian is a good guy, Solas is actually a surprise (well, he was to me), Vivienne is... Vivienne and is pretty direct about her motivations. The only holdover is Morrigan. I'm confused, that's why I said apostates? There's obviously been several nice non-apostate mages that don't do anything shifty (I don't consider Dorian an apostate as he grew up in a country where that concept doesn't seem to exist). I'm just saying...Morrigan, Anders (circle mage initially, of course, but he ends up an apostate), Merrill to an extent although nothing she does is game-changing, Solas... I don't know, lol, maybe I'm just naturally cynical but whenever a mage that flouts Chantry or Circle rules pops up anymore I'm immediately suspicious they're gonna pull something down the line. I'll admit I'm bi and may be extra sensitive to the irritating bi tropes in the games, though. I don't even want a Cullen or Alistair-esq ending for myself since that's not really my thing, I just think it'd be nice if our plot important characters got some sappy Disney endings thrown our way every now and then. Even things out a little. Morrigan's romance is happy (true, for happy end you need the witch hunt dlc), when Morrigan speaks about her Warden, is beautiful, seems they very happy together. Anders has the happy end as well, you don't need to kill him, if you wants happy end. When Hawke speaks about Anders, seems they are happy, and their fate is quite romantic. I think, this is the most romantic fairy tale (okay, probably not Disney...): the rebel outlaws, who wandering from circle to circle to free the Mages. (feckin' Solas and his ball breaks the romance for a while...) So: not all apostates are bad. Okay, not perfect, but think about it: Sebastian (prince charming), for example... brrr! |
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Post by blastoandbubin on May 24, 2017 19:37:31 GMT
I hope that they do something with the idea of Tal-Vashoth residing in the Imperium in DA4. It makes sense, after all. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." If you're fleeing the Qun up North, going to Tevinter seems like a good idea. It's not like they'll give you back to their enemy, right? Especially if you're a mage. But isn't the reason Bull can't even cross the border is because he could be killed on sight, even if he's Tal-Vashoth? I got the impression from that and from his and Dorian's banter than Q/qunari are considered pretty lowly creatures up there. I could be wrong though, it's been a long time since I've played the game. Maybe the border thing was just because of Dorian's position? Still, it'd definitely be an interesting angle to see. I imagine there's at least a few Tal-Vashoth that'd happily stick it to the Qun. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 24, 2017 19:42:50 GMT
I hope that they do something with the idea of Tal-Vashoth residing in the Imperium in DA4. It makes sense, after all. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." If you're fleeing the Qun up North, going to Tevinter seems like a good idea. It's not like they'll give you back to their enemy, right? Especially if you're a mage. But isn't the reason Bull can't even cross the border is because he could be killed on sight, even if he's Tal-Vashoth? I got the impression from that and from his and Dorian's banter than Q/qunari are considered pretty lowly creatures up there. I could be wrong though, it's been a long time since I've played the game. Maybe the border thing was just because of Dorian's position? Still, it'd definitely be an interesting angle to see. I imagine there's at least a few Tal-Vashoth that'd happily stick it to the Qun. I'm not saying there wouldn't be prejudice, just that there may be Tal-Vashoth who see Tevinter as the "lesser evil" so to speak. As said before in this thread, Dorian talks about having interacted with Tal-Vashoth people before. Some of them might not even be of the Qunari race, in addition to them obviously having left the Qun. So I'm assuming that not all of them are killed on-sight in the Imperium. As for Bull, he actually mentions having been in Tevinter before in banter with Dorian. We don't know the context exactly, but he wasn't immediately killed on sight. |
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Post by blastoandbubin on May 24, 2017 19:48:06 GMT
I'm confused, that's why I said apostates? There's obviously been several nice non-apostate mages that don't do anything shifty (I don't consider Dorian an apostate as he grew up in a country where that concept doesn't seem to exist). I'm just saying...Morrigan, Anders (circle mage initially, of course, but he ends up an apostate), Merrill to an extent although nothing she does is game-changing, Solas... I don't know, lol, maybe I'm just naturally cynical but whenever a mage that flouts Chantry or Circle rules pops up anymore I'm immediately suspicious they're gonna pull something down the line. I'll admit I'm bi and may be extra sensitive to the irritating bi tropes in the games, though. I don't even want a Cullen or Alistair-esq ending for myself since that's not really my thing, I just think it'd be nice if our plot important characters got some sappy Disney endings thrown our way every now and then. Even things out a little. Morrigan's romance is happy (true, for happy end you need the witch hunt dlc), when Morrigan speaks about her Warden, is beautiful, seems they very happy together. Anders has the happy end as well, you don't need to kill him, if you wants happy end. When speak about Anders, seems they are happy, and their fate is quite romantic. I think, this is the most romantic fairy tale: the rebel outlaws, who wandering from circle to circle to free the Mages. (feckin' Solas and his ball breaks the romance for a while...) So: not all apostates are bad. Okay, not perfect, but think about it: Sebastian, for example... grrr! Right, her romance is happy-ish if you do her DLC, but I'm talking about her entire character arc - springing the ritual on you, the old-god baby and wanting the power of the well, all that. I'm not saying she's aterrible person, but she's pretty dang shifty unless you're being charitable. Her character was basically the root of all the shifty apostate jokes in the fandom. I love Morrigan, don't get me wrong! But she's not exactly Mary Sunshine over here. Anders literally lies to you about creating a bomb, blows up a chantry, and condemns you to live as outlaws with his demon friend if you want to stay together. I'm not saying it's not potentially romantic, but when I'm talking fairytale, I'm using shorthand for the Alistair and Cullen type romances, something happy and gooey romantic with a lot of content. And Sebastian is a flop in every way and I try not to think about him too much at all, lol. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 24, 2017 19:52:21 GMT
In terms of character concepts, I would love to see sort of Tevinter's idea of what a Tevinter KISA would be. It'd be cool to have a character like that and have them slowly work out for themselves the institutional issues of Tevinter and start to question the ideals they've upheld and become a more traditional version of a "KISA." Kind of like how Cassandra went through the process of rethinking the Seekers and the Chantry and realizing that there needs to be changes.
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Post by blastoandbubin on May 24, 2017 19:58:45 GMT
But isn't the reason Bull can't even cross the border is because he could be killed on sight, even if he's Tal-Vashoth? I got the impression from that and from his and Dorian's banter than Q/qunari are considered pretty lowly creatures up there. I could be wrong though, it's been a long time since I've played the game. Maybe the border thing was just because of Dorian's position? Still, it'd definitely be an interesting angle to see. I imagine there's at least a few Tal-Vashoth that'd happily stick it to the Qun. I'm not saying there wouldn't be prejudice, just that there may be Tal-Vashoth who see Tevinter as the "lesser evil" so to speak. As said before in this thread, Dorian talks about having interacted with Tal-Vashoth people before. Some of them might not even be of the Qunari race, in addition to them obviously having left the Qun. So I'm assuming that not all of them are killed on-sight in the Imperium. As for Bull, he actually mentions having been in Tevinter before in banter with Dorian. We don't know the context exactly, but he wasn't immediately killed on sight. Oh yeah, I forgot about that banter. Like I said, it's been a while since I've played the games, it's a little fuzzy. That makes way more sense than "they all get killed", lol. |
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Post by Catilina on May 24, 2017 20:29:25 GMT
Morrigan's romance is happy (true, for happy end you need the witch hunt dlc), when Morrigan speaks about her Warden, is beautiful, seems they very happy together. Anders has the happy end as well, you don't need to kill him, if you wants happy end. When Hawke speaks about Anders, seems they are happy, and their fate is quite romantic. I think, this is the most romantic fairy tale: the rebel outlaws, who wandering from circle to circle to free the Mages. (feckin' Solas and his ball breaks the romance for a while...) So: not all apostates are bad. Okay, not perfect, but think about it: Sebastian (prince charming), for example... grrr Right, her romance is happy-ish if you do her DLC, but I'm talking about her entire character arc - springing the ritual on you, the old-god baby and wanting the power of the well, all that. I'm not saying she's aterrible person, but she's pretty dang shifty unless you're being charitable. Her character was basically the root of all the shifty apostate jokes in the fandom. I love Morrigan, don't get me wrong! But she's not exactly Mary Sunshine over here. Anders literally lies to you about creating a bomb, blows up a chantry, and condemns you to live as outlaws with his demon friend if you want to stay together. I'm not saying it's not potentially romantic, but when I'm talking fairytale, I'm using shorthand for the Alistair and Cullen type romances, something happy and gooey romantic with a lot of content. And Sebastian is a flop in every way and I try not to think about him too much at all, lol. Don't forget: Alistair breaks up with his Warden, and becomes drunk, if the Warden doesn't want to execute Loghain, or doesn't want let him execute Loghain: so he's also not perfect... but still sweet. And the Warden forced to perform DR for his happy ending... this is his price. (You still blame Morrigan's ritual? Because without it, Alister's love would be sad. Morrigan's romance can be happy without performing DR too – as I remember.) I'm not sure, that Anders and his spirit (who is my favorite in DAA) worse, than Alistair. True: he's not a bastard prince. But as I said: I would be happy with a Cullen-kind romance. Not really for me (I was satisfied with Zevran –despite that his jokes sometimes annoyed me so much–, Anders and Fenris, and I liked Bull as well – Dorian was a little disappointment), but because I also want to break this shit stereotype, that s knight-like gay character makes no sense(TM). This annoys me much more, than Zevran's stupid jokes about Wynne's pretty boobs... I hope, we got one-two gay knight in shiny armor, with strong morality, and happy end (a throne would be nice..) |
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Post by blastoandbubin on May 24, 2017 21:02:09 GMT
Yes, Alistair can become a drunk. But you get the option of that not happening, which is my larger point: options. Cullen can have a terrible ending too, but that's counterpointed with the option of having a sappy happily ever after. And nah, I don't blame Morrigan for anything, but she is the one who brings up the ritual in the first place, and there's an ulterior motive to it (harnessing the soul of an old god for her own opaque purposes.) Like I said, I love Morrigan and she's probably my favorite character in DAO if not the whole series, but imo she's as shifty as they get even if she's not a bad person, which I don't think she is. I honestly would love being able to do a Morrigan-style romance for women, with that slap slap kiss kiss vibe. I like the ice queen trope, I admit it  But I'd also like to see the option of a romance with both similar amounts of content and tone to the Cullen or Alistair romances for someone other than straight people too, even though it's not personally to my tastes, you know? I think it'd be something fresh. I'd even be perfectly happy if it was the "good" option, with another "bad" option to epicly fail and condemn your poor LI to death or drunkeness, just as long as it existed. DAI did actually remedy this a bit with Sera, even though people had a lot of issues with her romance. Her wedding almost made me cry, lol. Don't forget: Alistair breaks up with his Warden, and becomes drunk, if the Warden doesn't want to execute Loghain, or doesn't want let him execute Loghain: so he's also not perfect... but still sweet. And the Warden forced to perform DR for his happy ending... this is his price. (You still blame Morrigan's ritual? Because without it, Alister's love would be sad. For Morrigan's romance can be happy without performing DR too – as I remember.) I'm not sure, that Anders and his spirit (who is my favorite in DAA) worse, than Alistair. True: he's not a bastard prince. But as I said: I would be happy with a Cullen-kind romance. Not really for me (I was satisfied with Zevran –despite that his jokes sometimes annoyed me so much–, Anders and Fenris, and I liked Bull as well – Dorian was a little disappointment), but because I also want to break this shit stereotype, that s knight-like gay character makes no sense(TM). This annoys me much more, than Zevran's stupid jokes about Wynne's pretty boobs... I hope, we got one-two gay knight in shiny armor, with strong morality, and happy end (a throne would be nice..) |
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Post by Catilina on May 24, 2017 21:40:13 GMT
Yes, Alistair can become a drunk. But you get the option of that not happening, which is my larger point: options. Cullen can have a terrible ending too, but that's counterpointed with the option of having a sappy happily ever after.And nah, I don't blame Morrigan for anything, but she is the one who brings up the ritual in the first place, and there's an ulterior motive to it (harnessing the soul of an old god for her own opaque purposes.) Like I said, I love Morrigan and she's probably my favorite character in DAO if not the whole series, but imo she's as shifty as they get even if she's not a bad person, which I don't think she is. I honestly would love being able to do a Morrigan-style romance for women, with that slap slap kiss kiss vibe. I like the ice queen trope, I admit it But I'd also like to see the option of a romance with both similar amounts of content and tone to the Cullen or Alistair romances for someone other than straight people too, even though it's not personally to my tastes, you know? I think it'd be something fresh. I'd even be perfectly happy if it was the "good" option, with another "bad" option to epicly fail and condemn your poor LI to death or drunkeness, just as long as it existed. DAI did actually remedy this a bit with Sera, even though people had a lot of issues with her romance. Her wedding almost made me cry, lol. Don't forget: Alistair breaks up with his Warden, and becomes drunk, if the Warden doesn't want to execute Loghain, or doesn't want let him execute Loghain: so he's also not perfect... but still sweet. And the Warden forced to perform DR for his happy ending... this is his price. (You still blame Morrigan's ritual? Because without it, Alister's love would be sad. For Morrigan's romance can be happy without performing DR too – as I remember.) I'm not sure, that Anders and his spirit (who is my favorite in DAA) worse, than Alistair. True: he's not a bastard prince. But as I said: I would be happy with a Cullen-kind romance. Not really for me (I was satisfied with Zevran –despite that his jokes sometimes annoyed me so much–, Anders and Fenris, and I liked Bull as well – Dorian was a little disappointment), but because I also want to break this shit stereotype, that s knight-like gay character makes no sense(TM). This annoys me much more, than Zevran's stupid jokes about Wynne's pretty boobs... I hope, we got one-two gay knight in shiny armor, with strong morality, and happy end (a throne would be nice..) That was my point as well: you can have "sappy" sunshine-rainbow happy end with Anders WITHOUT any compromise. If Hawke feel Anders' cause as his own "this is my war too" (something similar possible –red– answer), doesn't have any problem with Justice, and understand why he lied, this is the best in-game romance ever... This is not more, than Alistair's criterion: he wants Loghain's head (true: if the Warden agrees with him, it's not a cost), Anders wants nothing, just what Hawke wants, if he agrees with him... And as I wrote, I also really want a gay/lesbian knight, without questionable moral or without questionable acts, lies, and daddy-issues, promiscuity etc. Someone who's not TV-trope sad/witty gay. |
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Post by blastoandbubin on May 24, 2017 21:50:41 GMT
That was my point as well: you can have "sappy" sunshine-rainbow happy end with Anders WITHOUT any compromise. If Hawke feel Anders' cause as his own "this is my war too" (a possible –red– answer), doesn't have any problem with Justice, and understand why he lied, this is the best in-game romance ever... This is not more, than Alistair's criterion: he wants Loghain's head, Anders wants nothing, just what Hawke wants, if he agrees with him... And as I wrote, I also really want a gay/lesbian knight, without questionable moral or without questionable acts, lies, and daddy-issues, promiscuity etc. Someone who's not TV-trope sad/witty gay. I have to admit I'm not sure how this turned into an Alistair vs Anders debate, lol. I don't care for Alistair and I think Anders is a fine romance, but I also think their romances are very different and Alistair gets the option of a much more traditional romantic ending in DAO however you end up achieving it, which is the sort of ending I'm saying I would like to see more of for lgbt characters. That doesn't mean I think a romance like Anders shouldn't be written or anything. I'm not trying to denigrate Anders's romance or say you shouldn't find it romantic? I'm sorry if that's how I came across  Maybe we should just agree to disagree. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 25, 2017 0:07:11 GMT
Do you guys think we'll get a Warden companion in DA4? It's like a tradition. Every game's got at least one Grey Warden companion.
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Post by Catilina on May 25, 2017 0:14:21 GMT
Do you guys think we'll get a Warden companion in DA4? It's like a tradition. Every game's got at least one Grey Warden companion. I think, not. Faded this option, slowly. Let's see, how: DAO: We have a Grey Warden. DA2: We have an escaped Grey Warden DAI: We have a fake Grey Warden DA4: We haven't Grey Warden |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 25, 2017 0:17:54 GMT
Do you guys think we'll get a Warden companion in DA4? It's like a tradition. Every game's got at least one Grey Warden companion. I think, not. Faded this option, slowly. Let's see, how: DAO: We have a Grey Warden. DA2: We have an escaped Grey Warden DAI: We have a fake Grey Warden DA4: We haven't Grey Warden Perhaps: What if all the Grey Warden shit is saved for checking out Weisshaupt?  To add mystery to it since you don't have a Warden with you to give context. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 17:08:13 GMT
Since the MEA fiasco I am too scared to specualte too much and have an extensive wishlist, so the only thing I want is:
- Bring at least the DAI cc back and let us be able to play different races
- I just want to play a dwarf or qunari who am I kidding
- Pipe the open world aspect down
- A hot buff lgbt (qunari) lady LI who could tear me into pieces
That's literally it, if two of these things happen I will cry happily
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 17:22:12 GMT
In terms of character concepts, I would love to see sort of Tevinter's idea of what a Tevinter KISA would be. It'd be cool to have a character like that and have them slowly work out for themselves the institutional issues of Tevinter and start to question the ideals they've upheld and become a more traditional version of a "KISA." Kind of like how Cassandra went through the process of rethinking the Seekers and the Chantry and realizing that there needs to be changes. I'm really interested in the idea of an altus soporati. As a non-mage in that social class that values magic above most things, I think that person would have their fair share of discrimination. This could lead to looking at the world through a different lens, even though, yes, they are still privileged in life by being altus. And because it will come up (because it usually does when I raise this idea), genetics is a crapshoot and still based on percentages, no matter how you try to game it with with breeding. The altus may breed for magic, but there will always be the chance of a dud. I'm sure they're rare among altus, but not too rare as to be unheard of. And each such case will be treated differently based on the values of the parents. For example, Felix had very low magical ability; he went to the University of Orlais and studied mathematics, but his parents loved him just the same. So some may love a magically bereft child, some may raise them but show little affection, and some may abandon them or send them away once the time for magical development has passed without its manifestation. Each family will be different. As for an adult, there are always going to be menial jobs suitable for undesirables (codices found in Tevinter ruins show this). Do you guys think we'll get a Warden companion in DA4? It's like a tradition. Every game's got at least one Grey Warden companion. I think, not. Faded this option, slowly. Let's see, how: DAO: We have a Grey Warden. DA2: We have an escaped Grey Warden DAI: We have a fake Grey Warden DA4: We haven't Grey Warden Hah, when you write it out like that, it doesn't seem likely at all! |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 18:02:43 GMT
Since the MEA fiasco I am too scared to specualte too much and have an extensive wishlist, so the only thing I want is: - Bring at least the DAI cc back and let us be able to play different races - I just want to play a dwarf or qunari who am I kidding - Pipe the open world aspect down - A hot buff lgbt (qunari) lady LI who could tear me into pieces That's literally it, if two of these things happen I will cry happily That qunari lady would be so nice and I hope they also tone down the open world. I mean I don't mind it as much as I do in the ME series because it kind of makes more sense to be lost in the woods for awhile I guess? IDK. But Bioware does better with maps that help streamline the story always. Personally I don't mind if they go back to human only PC as long as the qunari go back to the DA 2 style or a mix and we have better CC. I like playing as an elf but It isn't a deal breaker for me. I was so super excited to play a qunari in inquisition and then.. well they weren't what I expected. You guys talking about a grey warden squadmate? I think that is possible but maybe it won't happen since they are dialing down the blight aspect more and more. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 25, 2017 18:29:49 GMT
In terms of character concepts, I would love to see sort of Tevinter's idea of what a Tevinter KISA would be. It'd be cool to have a character like that and have them slowly work out for themselves the institutional issues of Tevinter and start to question the ideals they've upheld and become a more traditional version of a "KISA." Kind of like how Cassandra went through the process of rethinking the Seekers and the Chantry and realizing that there needs to be changes. I'm really interested in the idea of an altus soporati. As a non-mage in that social class that values magic above most things, I think that person would have their fair share of discrimination. This could lead to looking at the world through a different lens, even though, yes, they are still privileged in life by being altus. And because it will come up (because it usually does when I raise this idea), genetics is a crapshoot and still based on percentages, no matter how you try to game it with with breeding. The altus may breed for magic, but there will always be the chance of a dud. I'm sure they're rare among altus, but not too rare as to be unheard of. And each such case will be treated differently based on the values of the parents. For example, Felix had very low magical ability; he went to the University of Orlais and studied mathematics, but his parents loved him just the same. So some may love a magically bereft child, some may raise them but show little affection, and some may abandon them or send them away once the time for magical development has passed without its manifestation. Each family will be different. As for an adult, there are always going to be menial jobs suitable for undesirables (codices found in Tevinter ruins show this). Yeah, one would hope they'd have at least a quest, if not a central character, who is in this position. I can only imagine how an Altus family that has big expectations might treat their non-mage child. Now that I think about it, doesn't the Imperium's Black Chantry have leadership roles available to men (and I'm assuming nobles)? I wonder if you have to be a mage to get to a higher position of the Chantry hierarchy in Tevinter. |
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But I'd also like to see the option of a romance with both similar amounts of content and tone to the Cullen or Alistair romances for someone other than straight people too, even though it's not personally to my tastes, you know? I think it'd be something fresh. I'd even be perfectly happy if it was the "good" option, with another "bad" option to epicly fail and condemn your poor LI to death or drunkeness, just as long as it existed. DAI did actually remedy this a bit with Sera, even though people had a lot of issues with her romance. Her wedding almost made me cry, lol.
Maybe we should just agree to disagree.
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