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Post by blastoandbubin on May 25, 2017 20:31:19 GMT
I'd like to see a full-blown Tal-Vashoth companion. We've had two Qunari companions who were either all-in on the Qun or at least loyal to the extent that they found value in aspects of that system and still worked for it. Even if Bull goes Tal-Vashoth he's never explicitly anti-Qun. It'd be kind of cool to have a companion that ran away or defected on purpose and thinks it's terrible.
It'd also be a good excuse to get a Qunari mage in the mix. An ex-saarebas would probably have some pretty interesting views on their old life (not to mention the way magic is handled in both Tevinter and the rest of Thedas). Bonus points if they're female and an f/f option, but I'd take 'em either way.
I'd also be into a Tevinter squib companion, lol. I could certainly see that causing some drama in the more competitive families, which sounds right up Bioware's alley.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 3:00:58 GMT
I'm really interested in the idea of an altus soporati. As a non-mage in that social class that values magic above most things, I think that person would have their fair share of discrimination. This could lead to looking at the world through a different lens, even though, yes, they are still privileged in life by being altus. And because it will come up (because it usually does when I raise this idea), genetics is a crapshoot and still based on percentages, no matter how you try to game it with with breeding. The altus may breed for magic, but there will always be the chance of a dud. I'm sure they're rare among altus, but not too rare as to be unheard of. And each such case will be treated differently based on the values of the parents. For example, Felix had very low magical ability; he went to the University of Orlais and studied mathematics, but his parents loved him just the same. So some may love a magically bereft child, some may raise them but show little affection, and some may abandon them or send them away once the time for magical development has passed without its manifestation. Each family will be different. As for an adult, there are always going to be menial jobs suitable for undesirables (codices found in Tevinter ruins show this). Yeah, one would hope they'd have at least a quest, if not a central character, who is in this position. I can only imagine how an Altus family that has big expectations might treat their non-mage child. Now that I think about it, doesn't the Imperium's Black Chantry have leadership roles available to men (and I'm assuming nobles)? I wonder if you have to be a mage to get to a higher position of the Chantry hierarchy in Tevinter. I have an AU fanfic that I'm (slowly) writing where that is an element, so I've thought about it a bit. XD The Imperial Chantry is also led by mages. The divine himself is an enchanter in the Minrathous Circle. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 26, 2017 3:05:39 GMT
Yeah, one would hope they'd have at least a quest, if not a central character, who is in this position. I can only imagine how an Altus family that has big expectations might treat their non-mage child. Now that I think about it, doesn't the Imperium's Black Chantry have leadership roles available to men (and I'm assuming nobles)? I wonder if you have to be a mage to get to a higher position of the Chantry hierarchy in Tevinter. I have an AU fanfic that I'm (slowly) writing where that is an element, so I've thought about it a bit. XD The Imperial Chantry is also led by mages. The divine himself is an enchanter in the Minrathous Circle. I wonder if it would be hypothetically possible for a non-mage of Altus descent to get a comfy position in the priesthood. |
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Post by sandalpuff on May 26, 2017 3:18:58 GMT
I want:
At least one beautiful city to explore, with lots of interesting quests to be had within said city. More would be great, but not if it hurts the story.
Smaller wilderness areas with interesting side quests, not vast expanses of nothingness.
Tough choices that I have to sit and think about for a few minutes before making a decision.
It's Tevinter, so I'd like a dark, gloomy feel to the locations.
Blood magic use, and all the consequences that go along with it.
Slavery, and a slave revolt/rebellion.
A Qunari invasion, and the ability to smack them down.
If Solas is featured heavily, I want a way to definitively deal with him, whether it be redeeming or ending him based on player choice.
Lots of LGBT companions.
A gay KISA to sweep my character off his feet.
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 26, 2017 4:31:01 GMT
It's interesting that you see Tevinter as dark and gloomy. I never pictured it that way. I see it more like Ancient Rome. How else does everyone see Tevinter? |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 26, 2017 4:56:33 GMT
One thing I really want in regards to blood magic returning as a specialization is for it to lead into something plot-wise. For example, a demon coming to your character in the Fade and trying to trick you into trusting it so they can possess you.  It'd be cool if specializations could sort of have their own subplot. Maybe it could make the less "useful" specializations worth playing if it comes with a cool quest/cutscene. |
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 26, 2017 5:00:55 GMT
One thing I really want in regards to blood magic returning as a specialization is for it to lead into something plot-wise. For example, a demon coming to your character in the Fade and trying to trick you into trusting it so they can possess you. It'd be cool if specializations could sort of have their own subplot. Maybe it could make the less "useful" specializations worth playing if it comes with a cool quest/cutscene. What I would like is to be able to make a pact with a demon or spirit, and have that impact gameplay by giving me new abilities, or story by giving me new choices. And it shouldn't necessarily turn out badly, either. I also want specialisations to ACTUALLY matter, not like how they 'mattered' in Inquisition. Those unlock quests are pathetic, and there's no reactivity to your choice at all. At least not for rogues. |
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Post by Andrew Mancer on May 26, 2017 5:40:37 GMT
Well...here's my wishlist. After Mass Effect Andromeda, I have a feeling that Dragon Age 4 will be a much better game than Inquisition!  -More cities/towns to explore. There was pretty much none of this in Inquisition, and what little there was felt empty/dead. Make them as vibrant and fun to explore as Denerim, Redcliffe, or Kirkwall. Lothering remains one of my favorite locations in the series to this day because of how well it set-up the game and presented the world. There was a lot to do and it felt alive and real. Essentially...go back to the feeling/presentation Origins and to a lesser extent Dragon Age 2 had. Populate the areas with memorable moments, NPCs, and Quests. Everything and everyone in Inquisition was forgettable. -Less, less, LESS! Don't give us a million large and empty maps again. Are the Inquisition maps pretty? Yes, but they are very forgettable with nearly all of them being unimportant. Put effort into making the locations memorable again with different quests and NPCs tied to the main plot. -A good balance between codex information and "character codices". This was a big problem with Inquisition. There were too many notes and books to read that were there to fill up the empty maps. This really breaks the immersion, having to stop every few seconds/minutes to read large notes. I don't mind the occasional NPC explaining things instead of reading it in a book/note. -A return to tactical combat. In Origins, it was fun pausing in the middle of a battle and planning out your next move. Inquisition's attempt felt like a complete mess and the "tactical mode" was just awful. -A more memorable soundtrack. It felt non-existent in Inquisition. Bring back memorable themes like those heard in the battles in Origins and DA2, or in the different towns you visited. The camp theme in Origins was absolutely perfect! -A camp! Or at least...something similar. I still fondly remember those times I spent with the companions in Origins with that beautiful music playing in the background. It really felt like we were on a grand adventure and taking a moment of peace. The companion homes were a nice touch in DA2, but didn't feel as effective. I wasn't fond of Skyhold at all. -A more even distribution of LGBT characters. In Inquisition, there were several prominent LGBT women. We had Celene, Briala, Harding, Charter, Leliana, and Divine Justinia. For gay/bi men? Well...we got confirmation of Arl Eamon having gay dads, Arl Jacen Guerrin and his male lover, and the Orlesian couple in WEWH. The former two were just notes, and the others unnamed NPCs. I'd like to see more prominent gay characters outside of the romance options. WHERE IS MY GAY PRINCE BIOWARE?!
-Kind of related to the above, but more variety in the options given to LGBT romances. I need my knight in shining armor/prince charming! They can't always be straight! -No more note quests. No shards. No astrariums. These were boring, pointless, and had you jumping into difficult spots just for a reward that wasn't worth the trouble. Give us NPCs to talk to again! |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 5:47:28 GMT
It's interesting that you see Tevinter as dark and gloomy. I never pictured it that way. I see it more like Ancient Rome. How else does everyone see Tevinter? Large, crumbling, extravagance. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 5:53:58 GMT
For gay/bi men? Well...we got confirmation of Arl Eamon having gay dads, Arl Jacen Guerrin and his male lover... Sorry to tell you this, but Jacen Guerrin isn't Eamon's father, that is Rendorn Guerrin. I'm not really sure why you thought this, as there is no indication that this is the case in the codex entry itself. |
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Post by Andrew Mancer on May 26, 2017 6:06:14 GMT
For gay/bi men? Well...we got confirmation of Arl Eamon having gay dads, Arl Jacen Guerrin and his male lover... Sorry to tell you this, but Jacen Guerrin isn't Eamon's father, that is Rendorn Guerrin. I'm not really sure why you thought this, as there is no indication that this is the case in the codex entry itself. Word of God. Patrick Weekes admitted he screwed up, so Arl Eamon ended up with gay dads. It was posted on his twitter account. I took screenshots of it, as well of some of the more interesting reactions. I'd have to dig for them later if you'd like to see. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 26, 2017 6:06:42 GMT
I've always thought of Tevinter as aesthetically very Byzantine except bloodier, more sinister. Lots of black, red, and white. Of course, it's much hotter there so it'd be pretty sunny, giving off a vibe similar to "Southern Gothic" horror except a more medieval/Renaissance setting... If that makes sense?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 6:19:05 GMT
Sorry to tell you this, but Jacen Guerrin isn't Eamon's father, that is Rendorn Guerrin. I'm not really sure why you thought this, as there is no indication that this is the case in the codex entry itself. Word of God. Patrick Weekes admitted he screwed up, so Arl Eamon ended up with gay dads. It was posted on his twitter account. I took screenshots of it, as well of some of the more interesting reactions. I'd have to dig for them later if you'd like to see. Please do, because I don't really understand where the error comes in. Eamon's parents were already established as Rendorn and his wife Marina. So did he make a mistake when writing the Grand Forest Villa codex and naming them Jacen/Marguerite? [edit] Never mind, I found it with Twitter's search. Lol... I love Dragon Age, and I get that there is a lot to keep track of, but these damn writers seem so incompetent sometimes. Eamon's father is also erroneously named Connor in a codex about Fort Connor. |
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Post by Andrew Mancer on May 26, 2017 6:35:40 GMT
Word of God. Patrick Weekes admitted he screwed up, so Arl Eamon ended up with gay dads. It was posted on his twitter account. I took screenshots of it, as well of some of the more interesting reactions. I'd have to dig for them later if you'd like to see. Please do, because I don't really understand where the error comes in. Eamon's parents were already established as Rendorn and his wife Marina. So did he make a mistake when writing the Grand Forest Villa codex and naming them Jacen/Marguerite? [edit] Never mind, I found it with Twitter's search. Lol... I love Dragon Age, and I get that there is a lot to keep track of, but these damn writers seem so incompetent sometimes. Eamon's father is also erroneously named Connor in a codex about Fort Connor. Glad you were able to find it! I have no idea how Twitter works, so i just thought screenshots were the best way to save them in my personal stash. I do have to dig for them though, my folders are messy. Ah, do forgive my original post! I meant Eamon's dads and Arl Jacen/his lover as separate examples, so I can see where the confusion would be! |
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Post by phantomrachie on May 26, 2017 7:34:33 GMT
It's interesting that you see Tevinter as dark and gloomy. I never pictured it that way. I see it more like Ancient Rome. How else does everyone see Tevinter? I've always imaged that it would have very tall, impressive buildings with gothic style architecture. Something that starts off feeling very grand but as you get deeper into the cities feels more oppressive, like the architecture itself reinforced their caste system. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 8:22:14 GMT
Please do, because I don't really understand where the error comes in. Eamon's parents were already established as Rendorn and his wife Marina. So did he make a mistake when writing the Grand Forest Villa codex and naming them Jacen/Marguerite? [edit] Never mind, I found it with Twitter's search. Lol... I love Dragon Age, and I get that there is a lot to keep track of, but these damn writers seem so incompetent sometimes. Eamon's father is also erroneously named Connor in a codex about Fort Connor. Glad you were able to find it! I have no idea how Twitter works, so i just thought screenshots were the best way to save them in my personal stash. I do have to dig for them though, my folders are messy. Ah, do forgive my original post! I meant Eamon's dads and Arl Jacen/his lover as separate examples, so I can see where the confusion would be! So wait... are you saying that his tweet refers to having a dad named Connor (because of that lame Fort Connor mistake), and a dad named Rendorn? If so, that makes SO much more sense. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 13:28:31 GMT
Until literally any game can prove they can give as good a range of options as FO4 with "set sexualitites", I favor the all bi, or player-sexual, or whatever you want to call it approach. I like FO4's romances a lot. ME:A especially made me appreciate a game where we have a large amount of options to pick from out of the core cast. I don't really think the romances are even that light. Bioware has more cinematics, but I don't think the dialogue and involvement actually dwarfs the FO4 romances by some massive scale. Sure, there are some little nuances, like acknowledgement from other characters and stuff that they could expand on. They're good arcs with lots of emotional dialogue, though. I have a hard time seeing ME:A's two woefully under-developed NPC romances as being as good as MacCready's with his multi-stage quest and companion status. I would be fine with the more playersexual route like FO4 on condition that there are non- companion LGBT NPCs in the world. If someone wants to RP their companion as being a set sexuality and it's straight, then they can headcanon that there are no visible LGBT people at all in the world. Or if the playersexual characters default to hetero all the time that can be annoying. MacCready has a former wife, right? Do any of the FO4 characters discuss any same sex history or attraction or is it just no comment or "mah deaf wife"? That's saying something, considering Dorian's questline totally sucks.  Bad Panda Until literally any game can prove they can give as good a range of options as FO4 with "set sexualitites", I favor the all bi, or player-sexual, or whatever you want to call it approach. I like FO4's romances a lot. ME:A especially made me appreciate a game where we have a large amount of options to pick from out of the core cast. I don't really think the romances are even that light. Bioware has more cinematics, but I don't think the dialogue and involvement actually dwarfs the FO4 romances by some massive scale. Sure, there are some little nuances, like acknowledgement from other characters and stuff that they could expand on. They're good arcs with lots of emotional dialogue, though. I have a hard time seeing ME:A's two woefully under-developed NPC romances as being as good as MacCready's with his multi-stage quest and companion status. I disagree here because there is no difference in the content with FO4 followers if you romance them or not. You go through the same arch, have most of the same conversations, but after their loyalty quest you can sleep with them. I can do MacCready's multi-stage quest whether I romance him or not, but I can't have dinner with Vetra if I don't romance her. I would like a clear difference in friendship and romantic content with NPCs. But if I had to choose, I would prefer a strong friendship track for all NPCs with minimal romance additions rather than ME2's method of romance equaling character development. I didn't like that the 6 LIs did not get as much character development unless they were romanced. I prefer the PC to be able to establish a close bond with all companions regardless of romance; the romance adds fluff content rather than substantive character development. Yeah, maybe some of Mass Effect's characters have substantial extra content if you romance them, but I'm not gonna do that, so I don't give a shit, lol. I'm never gonna play as anything other than a gay man, and that means I can have Gil or Reyes. Reyes doesn't get substantially more content if you romance him, just a few alterations to scenes that happen anyway. I'll staple my dick to my forehead before I have anything to do with Gil, whose writer was so lazy that they made his best friend's name rhyme. I'll take the Fallout 4 romances over at least 50% of my options in ME:A. Even without extra romance content, their characters and plotlines are just more appealing to begin with. Maybe they don't have a sexuality, but BioWare is awful at writing about sexuality and they should stop, lol. Pics or it didn't happen. The upside is that it likely would be choice related, just as the Iron Bull one was a choice. All of the character deaths have been thrown to the player for choice at some point; they're all avoidable. Some players may not want to make whatever choice (dark ritual), or even rearrange the DA Keep import to avoid an Alistair/Hawke situation in the Fade, but the choice is there. True, and I definitely appreciate that, but I can't help but want the Virmire decisions to affect the straight characters this time around. I get tired of the expendable characters so often being lgbt with the fairy tale (or as close to fairy tale as Bioware gets) endings nearly always being reserved for the straight characters. Heck, if they managed that and finally got over their reliance on the shifty apostate trope, their fan tear moments might regain an element of surprise. Is there lore on apostates in Tevinter? Since magic is embraced much more there and can be a means of rising in social status, I would think there would be a lot fewer mages on the run from the system. It would be more fringe cultures who would want to avoid being indoctrinated into mainstream Tevinter culture. I would love if Rivain plays a big part in DA4 as I'm curious about the country. Since there was an annulment at Dairsmuid maybe we could have some refugees from there emigrating to Tevinter. Or maybe if Tal Vashoth are tentatively accepted within Tevinter, the saarebas are still not allowed into any Circles and have to be trained within their communities. 👀 I may have heard that DA4 will have more of a spy/secret agent feel  Do you guys think we'll get a Warden companion in DA4? It's like a tradition. Every game's got at least one Grey Warden companion. Perhaps as the Wardens are diluted more and more...we'll get a Warden in training companion? The Last Flight featured mages and templars from southern Thedas fleeing to Weisshaupt for sanctuary. There were so many of them that the Wardens didn't have time to conduct the Joining on them all, so there were a bunch of non-Wardens hanging out in the keep. Maybe if we go to the Anderfels at all we'll meet some of these potential Wardens. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 13:40:19 GMT
True, and I definitely appreciate that, but I can't help but want the Virmire decisions to affect the straight characters this time around. I get tired of the expendable characters so often being lgbt with the fairy tale (or as close to fairy tale as Bioware gets) endings nearly always being reserved for the straight characters. Heck, if they managed that and finally got over their reliance on the shifty apostate trope, their fan tear moments might regain an element of surprise. Is there lore on apostates in Tevinter? Since magic is embraced much more there and can be a means of rising in social status, I would think there would be a lot fewer mages on the run from the system. It would be more fringe cultures who would want to avoid being indoctrinated into mainstream Tevinter culture. I would love if Rivain plays a big part in DA4 as I'm curious about the country. Since there was an annulment at Dairsmuid maybe we could have some refugees from there emigrating to Tevinter. Or maybe if Tal Vashoth are tentatively accepted within Tevinter, the saarebas are still not allowed into any Circles and have to be trained within their communities. I don't know what would constitute an apostate in Tevinter. What "system" would there be to run from? It would be interesting to know whether there are laws regarding magic and training there. Mages need to be trained to control their magic. I'd think that we can all agree on that one basic principle. So what happens with lowborn, free mages? What happens with mages who are slaves? Is there basic education for these mages? I believe there is some lore information stating that mage blood is prized for use in blood magic rituals. So that is one thing that happens to them. But it doesn't happen to them all. Also, of course, blood magic is frowned upon publicly, but I don't know what sort of real laws there are against it. In talking of the corrupt system there, Dorian talks of dissenters who are accused of being maleficar without any evidence, so there have to be some laws, even if they're not applied judiciously. |
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Post by Mihura on May 26, 2017 14:01:38 GMT
My wishlist is quite simples, I want Mae as a bi romance or a KISA and just a really interesting story with humor in Tevinter, also lots of politics and art please!
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 14:15:49 GMT
My wishlist is quite simples, I want Mae as a bi romance or a KISA and just a really interesting story with humor in Tevinter, also lots of politics and art please! I almost forgot about Mae. If she doesn't show up in the game I will be madly disappointed. They teased her in the comics, in the wartable missions AND Dorian mentioned her, please Bioware...  Having her as a LI would be so cool as well. Also like.. I remember some people being disappointed that Krem as a trans person wasn't voiced by an actual trans person. But in MEA we have Jien Garson, who was voiced by Jamie Clayton and she is openly trans, so I'm having high hopes for DA4, if they include Mae. Don't know if this was mentioned before - it's a really minor thing - but I hope the tarot cards come back too. They looked freaking amazing and I think they were received extremly well. I have never seen something like that inspire so much fanart even beyond the DA franchise. |
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