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Post by Lee on Feb 9, 2022 6:34:21 GMT
farferello would probably be better at explaining the twist and stuff, but I'll tell you what I know (and hated). Berath in the second age has been torn apart and pieced back to gather with various other morians and is looking like frankenstien. So he's likely not a romance in that age (not sure anyone is to be fair though-all the companion stuff is broken).
The twist is that Amerigan is the big bad of the game-and you have to kill him at the end. So that's my main romance choice basically looking like Anders and Solas' love child-but grandpa age.
-shrug-
I had a feeling the game would not be as good in the second age-but it sounds like everything is just shit in that timeline (not a spoiler so I'm saying that out front to anyone considering buying). But your mileage may vary I guess?
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Post by farferello on Feb 9, 2022 12:52:16 GMT
dgcatanisiri If y'all want spoilers I will give them. Read this at your own risk, I take no responsibility if you spoil yourselves. All the reincarnated companions are very different to how you know them as. Lee mentioned the biggest fuck up with poor Berath suffering so. The other companion's main differences are mostly that they're now very different people and having their old memories back doesn't change who they are. Heraklios, and Khaldun especially are rather conflicted about their past.
The big plot twist like Lee said, is Amergin turns out to be the big bad. The man we know in the Celtic era is different to the Medieval era. But it's not... it's not like Solas exactly where Amergin knew what he was doing and was evil the whole time and lying to us. No Celtic Amergin is still our good sweet boy - but his future self (I will call him old!Amergin) is the bad guy. The plot twist is that future old!Amergin has been corrupting the past because he witnessed so many Celtic people/Pagan's die to the Church/Templars/Christians and decides to amass a lot of power/corruption to try and... essentially stop that from ever happening, even if it means killing people to do so. The corruption has essentially corrupted him over time. You can't talk him down.
I had young!Amergin and the Celtic era companions with me when I fought old!Amergin. Young!Amergin was very upset to find out that he would be the one responsible for everything that happened. After taking down old!Amergin he makes it very clear to young!Amergin, that he should not be afraid of this when it happens to him, aka despite defeating old!Amergin and despite young!Amergin and everyone else knowing about what will happen in the future it feels very 'nothing you did here changed anything and the future will happen no matter what.'
After he dies that's it. Abrupt ending. We get no chance to talk to young!Amergin, the rest of the Celtic companions, or the reincarnation companions. The game just ends. It has ONE ending slide about who you put on the throne and that it is. No closure, nothing about the companions, your character, what happens next, etc. Just roll credits.
Whilst I couldn't romance anyone because of the bug, I highly doubt that you could ever pick up your romance with the reincarnated companion because they're so different to their past selves. No way you could romance Berath with the state he's in, hes not even 'Berath' anymore, but a mass of... other souls? Kinda? From the torture and experiments done on him. The romances also honestly just feel like they would be some casual sex after doing the companion quest rather than an over-reaching romance arc.
I did all the quests I could that weren't bugged or fetch quests, and the Medieval arc feels very short. Painfully short. I'm truly hoping that the game is so broken I just missed stuff - but even if they fix the bugs and the combat issues, it can't fix the fact that one of our close companions (and one of two that I really wanted to romance) ends up being the big bad. If anyone wants to see a party line up of how the reincarnated companions look, let me know. I shared them with Lee but this is already pretty spoilery.
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Post by farferello on Feb 28, 2022 20:15:36 GMT
I'm glad they're still working on it, but a road map for a fully released game is kinda...  But again, even if they fix the bugs and other broken stuff or add new quests, it's not gonna fix the twist.  |
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Post by Lee on Mar 1, 2022 4:23:58 GMT
That roadmap didn't say anything about fixing the inability to talk to party members after their quests (thus blocking romances). Does it seem to be really lacking in additions of any content for the second era of the game aside from the boss fights? Meh.
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Post by farferello on Mar 1, 2022 5:23:59 GMT
That roadmap didn't say anything about fixing the inability to talk to party members after their quests (thus blocking romances). Does it seem to be really lacking in additions of any content for the second era of the game aside from the boss fights? Meh. It says 'fix bugs in loyalty quests' so I'm hoping that is the fix considering you can't talk to them after the loyalty quest. (Also the only loyalty quests I ever heard was bugged was some issues with Amergin's having an invisible wall sometimes, and Rea's hard freezing the game in the other era preventing you from finishing it) so I'm hoping it's that. If not then... yeah idk. They knew about the romance bug in early access and said it would be fixed for full release. (It was not fixed.) It's super lacking in the second era. The only quests I got involved ones that led me to the reincarnated companions, some dumb 'go find these items in two big locations, there's ten of each, they're tiny and there's no map marker' and like one to find like some parchment for some random dude. Unless they were super duper bugged and just didn't show up on the map, you could finish the second era quests incredibly quickly because there were so few side quests so you're funnelled into the main story. I had a bunch of quests left over from the first era because they have no map markers and npcs don't have names above their heads so the 'go find these people' turns into 'go right click on every. single. npc. in this giant area' or the one with the Goblins 'go find these almost invisible Goblins in this giant fucking area. You can only see them by their mask which is near impossible to see.' Just a lot of boring busywork I eventually gave up on. I am hoping the game gives more loot/level appropriate gear. I finished the game at level 13. Most of my characters were in level 7/8 gear with a rare level 12 because gear drops were always incredibly low or not in shops. I think I had level 6/7 gear all the way up to character level 9/10 because there was just nothing. (Not that it mattered, I felt no stronger at level 13 compared to level 3 honestly.) |
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Post by Lee on Mar 1, 2022 9:49:46 GMT
That roadmap didn't say anything about fixing the inability to talk to party members after their quests (thus blocking romances). Does it seem to be really lacking in additions of any content for the second era of the game aside from the boss fights? Meh. It says 'fix bugs in loyalty quests' so I'm hoping that is the fix considering you can't talk to them after the loyalty quest. (Also the only loyalty quests I ever heard was bugged was some issues with Amergin's having an invisible wall sometimes, and Rea's hard freezing the game in the other era preventing you from finishing it) so I'm hoping it's that. If not then... yeah idk. They knew about the romance bug in early access and said it would be fixed for full release. (It was not fixed.) It's super lacking in the second era. The only quests I got involved ones that led me to the reincarnated companions, some dumb 'go find these items in two big locations, there's ten of each, they're tiny and there's no map marker' and like one to find like some parchment for some random dude. Unless they were super duper bugged and just didn't show up on the map, you could finish the second era quests incredibly quickly because there were so few side quests so you're funnelled into the main story. I had a bunch of quests left over from the first era because they have no map markers and npcs don't have names above their heads so the 'go find these people' turns into 'go right click on every. single. npc. in this giant area' or the one with the Goblins 'go find these almost invisible Goblins in this giant fucking area. You can only see them by their mask which is near impossible to see.' Just a lot of boring busywork I eventually gave up on. I am hoping the game gives more loot/level appropriate gear. I finished the game at level 13. Most of my characters were in level 7/8 gear with a rare level 12 because gear drops were always incredibly low or not in shops. I think I had level 6/7 gear all the way up to character level 9/10 because there was just nothing. (Not that it mattered, I felt no stronger at level 13 compared to level 3 honestly.) The side quests sound really bad. I am still hoping they do fix some things and pull it up to a standard of it being a decent game. They really didn't put a lot of balance into the level thing it sounds like. Cyberpunk 2077 has a similar but opposite issue at times. It seems like early game areas love to throw level 22 (ish) items at V! I wind up selling it cause I know it won't be worth holding on to that long. |
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Post by farferello on Mar 1, 2022 11:48:12 GMT
The side quests are really hampered by how many are 'go find npc/thing in giant area with maybe a very basic clue of where to look if you're lucky.' I had one blacksmith quest to go talk to three npcs. I accidentally found one when frantically right clicking npcs for a different 'go talk to x' quest. It's tedious, boring padding and I doubt the rewards would be worth it. I found one level 13 weapon the entire game, and that was when I was like level 6 which was a quest reward during Khaldun's quest. I could immediately equip it on her though it said its full power would be unlocked later (aka likely when she was level 13) but I just didn't notice any difference. The side quests are almost all like that and the mini-map constantly rotating meant navigation was utterly frustrating. I HATE mini-maps that you can't lock into place to navigate by.
I honestly hope they work on unfucking the difficulty levels also. Even the 'baby easy - you will literally never die even at 0 health' mode had me being 1-2 shot in combat and it was bugged in a way that you never regained health at the end of combat. Honestly the entire game just felt like a chore to me and not being able to talk to companions outside of when I literally got their companion quest at the start of the game just makes you not give a shit about them, especially when you meet the reincarnations and nearly all of them are utterly unrecognizable (or downright unlikable) in the new era. Add on the twist and final part of the story and I just stopped caring, which is a shame because I really wanted to love the game.
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Post by Lee on Mar 1, 2022 12:53:20 GMT
Honestly the entire game just felt like a chore to me and not being able to talk to companions outside of when I literally got their companion quest at the start of the game just makes you not give a shit about them, especially when you meet the reincarnations and nearly all of them are utterly unrecognizable (or downright unlikable) in the new era. Add on the twist and final part of the story and I just stopped caring, which is a shame because I really wanted to love the game. Seems like your take on it matched most of the reviews of the game I watched. I watched someone playing through part of the second Era tonight for just the sake of doing so-I am impressed by how nice the game looks (at times), but it really looks to play like a beta version of DA: Origins. It was not fit for release in any way! I saw when you finished the recruitment phase for 2 of the new incarnations at the same time-the quests just abruptly end with no real closure. it was awkward. |
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Post by turianlannister on Feb 27, 2023 21:30:11 GMT
I just check the game's twitter and it's been almost a year since they posted
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Post by disgustednoise on Feb 28, 2023 6:58:05 GMT
I just check the game's twitter and it's been almost a year since they posted It's a shame, there was serious potential even in the buggy unfinished mess that got released. |
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Post by farferello on Feb 28, 2023 21:13:24 GMT
Yeah it's a shame, there was a lot of potential but not much could have saved the second act. Feels like they just all but dropped the game the second it was released and disappeared into the void.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Mar 4, 2023 20:49:16 GMT
yeah its so obvious that they run out of money and just vanished, its a shame I was so excited for this game, I didnt even start it yet and I'm kinda meh about it tbh, still have the Pathfinders and Expeditions for when there will be drought of rpg gaymes and with DA:D, Starfield and BG3 around the corner this game sadly is not a priority for me.
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Post by Scottphoto on Mar 8, 2023 19:35:30 GMT
Yeah it's unfortunate, it wasn't helped by so much drama that happened with the writer that was actively promoting it and then had to leave twitter after they got called out for problematic behavior in the past of previous dev teams. And then Laidlaw was just an advisor so probably left the project early on. That and the game being listed as one of the worst of the year on multiple sites, just wasn't meant to be. So much potential, but alas.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Mar 14, 2023 9:12:26 GMT
So I know for a fact that I wont be able to finish the Pathfinder games in time before BG3 so I started this instead since I think is rather short in comparison to other games I still have to play. I made my egyptian sorcerer this past weekend and I'm ready for the bugfest lol This game even with the bad and getting abandoned I still need to play it cause it was made by fellow spanish devs with galician folklore which is very unique to me, although I couldnt avoid spoiling myself about what happens in the medieval times this past weekend too and gurl thats a bad dream, never happened (will happen?) for me  with all the time travelling that is going on in the game its very plausible that they just run out of money and never finished the story (maybe in a dlc?) but this me thinking positively lol I'm going to play this on storymode since I dont want to yell at my screen whilst I fight against the buggy mess, I'm too old for that. Hopefully Berath's romance does not bug for me ![=]](//storage.proboards.com/6753349/images/NNfvNlqrJvooyVjrmCMt.png) |
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Post by Lee on Mar 15, 2023 23:46:34 GMT
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Mar 21, 2023 22:17:05 GMT
played a little bit and I'm sad about the game cause even with its roughness is aesthetically beautiful, that said.... I just did Amergin personal quest and after that he confessed his love for me lmao  I wanted that exact reaction of Berath cause I'm scared of bugs and I just need him to be the lover of the group so fuck the timing lol and I dont know when its going to happen lol I can click on Amergin but not Berath or Heraklios, I dont know if thats normal or bugged  Berath I need to protect him at all costs  edit. didnt Emily say that Amergin had a past male lover? His personal quest is about a past female lover? its not actually confirmed but it is implied edit2. ok you need to pick the right dialogue option lmaaaoo! But this game really said FUCK ALREADY daaaaamn  |
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Post by farferello on Mar 21, 2023 22:54:11 GMT
played a little bit and I'm sad about the game cause even with its roughness is aesthetically beautiful, that said.... I just did Amergin personal quest and after that he confessed his love for me lmao I wanted that exact reaction of Berath cause I'm scared of bugs and I just need him to be the lover of the group so fuck the timing lol and I dont know when its going to happen lol I can click on Amergin but not Berath or Heraklios, I dont know if thats normal or bugged Berath I need to protect him at all costs edit. didnt Emily say that Amergin had a past male lover? His personal quest is about a past female lover? its not actually confirmed but it is implied edit2. ok you need to pick the right dialogue option lmaaaoo! But this game really said FUCK ALREADY daaaaamn If you've done their personal quest and couldn't click on them after when you get back to the ship, you're bugged and can't romance them. When I did my run, everyone bugged out for me but Brigg. Other people seemed to have the same issue where all but one person (usually a different person each time) bugged for them. Though considering what happens at the end idk if you'd want to be romancing Amergin anyway. 
Berath's would be equally awkward though considering you visit his old home where he had his wife and kids and then you get back to the ship and it's like 'let's bang' (not that I'd know first hand 'cause ya know, bug!) The romance is less romance and more 'hey thanks for helping me with this personal thing, lets fuck.'
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Post by Lee on Mar 22, 2023 0:07:47 GMT
A game that randomly decides which companion is going to function this run...that's a new level of non-functionality I had not heard of before. Also, yikes all of it sounds so unromantic and not what they were selling before the launch.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Mar 22, 2023 17:35:34 GMT
I mean is Vasco all over again haha, for a better pacing better to do his quest and ignore his advances til some main quests later, it shouldnt depend on the player but it is what it is sadly. The romance scene even with the clipping and roughness is longer and caring than Greedfall's and Spiders had more money lol Here it is what you need to say to trigger his romance, I will test Heraklios and Amargin later, its kinda pointless since I'm sure i'm the only homosexual playing this game but just in case a lost soul found the information. There is another dialogue in the ship but I think that one does not matter. Berath Romance Amergin Romance (there is a lot of dialogue I didnt put cause it felt causal dialogue, but the romance did trigger again) Doing Amergin romance scene keep you from doing Berath's I cant get the scene for Heraklios I dont know if there is even a trigger or maybe I picked the wrong dialogue tree edit. Also the animation is the same for Amergin and Berath so I guess is the same for other characters, with Amergin your character is more dominant, with Berath is the oppossite with him being the dominant (which I like  )  |
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Post by Scottphoto on Mar 22, 2023 23:43:00 GMT
I mean is Vasco all over again haha, for a better pacing better to do his quest and ignore his advances til some main quests later, it shouldnt depend on the player but it is what it is sadly. The romance scene even with the clipping and roughness is longer and caring than Greedfall's and Spiders had more money lol Here it is what you need to say to trigger his romance, I will test Heraklios and Amargin later, its kinda pointless since I'm sure i'm the only homosexual playing this game but just in case a lost soul found the information. There is another dialogue in the ship but I think that one does not matter. Berath Romance Amergin Romance (there is a lot of dialogue I didnt put cause it felt causal dialogue, but the romance did trigger again) Doing Amergin romance scene keep you from doing Berath's I cant get the scene for Heraklios I dont know if there is even a trigger or maybe I picked the wrong dialogue tree edit. Also the animation is the same for Amergin and Berath so I guess is the same for other characters, with Amergin your character is more dominant, with Berath is the oppossite with him being the dominant (which I like ) The zelda fan in me is like, did you just romance ganondorf? XD. But yeah thank you for sharing, at least is playable enough that you get to see that, and as long as the cutscene doesn't look funky and there is some kind of variation. Maybe one day I'll get it through a sale. |
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with all the time travelling that is going on in the game its very plausible that they just run out of money and never finished the story (maybe in a dlc?) but this me thinking positively lol I'm going to play this on storymode since I dont want to yell at my screen whilst I fight against the buggy mess, I'm too old for that.![=]](http://storage.proboards.com/6753349/images/NNfvNlqrJvooyVjrmCMt.png)
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