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Post by farferello on Mar 25, 2024 16:18:56 GMT
Whelp, if that's the case then I just won't buy the game at all, even heavily discounted. I've also read about harder combat for no reason and enemies just showing up in town to fuck with you, or destroy your ox cart mid journey repeatedly. That sounds the opposite of fun to me. I only started enjoying combat in the first one once I became a Mystic Knight because magic cannon go pew pew, and I was excited for Mystic Spearhand in this but everything I read about it says it's weak and kinda meh. (Thief seems to be the Strider of this game for OP/Funness) add in a lack of good romance and meh. I've no desire to play a game and get forced into a hetero romance because I helped an npc.
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Post by Foelhe on Mar 26, 2024 3:22:31 GMT
I have to ask, has this game improved on literally anything the original did? I thought remaking the first game was a bad call to start with, but now it seems like Capcom just made Dragon Dogma But Worse Though. It's a bold strategy, I'll give them that.
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Post by mediocreogre on Mar 26, 2024 6:07:15 GMT
I don’t think anyone here has played 2 yet, but I am pretty certain they mostly improved 2 things: leveling up and a better world. The rest might be worse in some ways. Less fashion, less enemy variety, less ability loadouts, more menus, more confusing quest design, missing abilities for certain classes, ranged classes can’t melee, an abrupt end game, end game isn’t as satisfying, etc.
It appears like they focused on making the world seem more real (hence cpu related performance drama), more side quests, and then kinda didn’t do much with anything else.
I see quite a few dd1 fans actually saying that dd2 is potentially worse story wise. I think the goal was to reboot the game to make a franchise but I think with the release drama and the growing realization the game was front loaded to trick reviewers and the rest of the game is not as good as it should be, I feel like this might be the end of the franchise for another decade.
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Post by mediocreogre on Mar 26, 2024 19:17:06 GMT
So I talked to my friend. Apparently NPCs that don’t have any point are not distinct from the ones that have quests. So essentially the capital city is full of all these pointless NPCs, which would be fine for romance, but basically at least in their game (and what I can tell from googling) NPCs basically only exist 30 ft circle around your character visually. So you can’t really get a “feel” of these filler NPCs as they flit in and out. Meanwhile they appear to drain cpu power cause they have routines, collision, dialogue that persists passed that 30 ft radius. So it’s truly insane to fill the game with that. He said they seem interesting but they basically don’t feel real cause they are like talking ghosts.
he thought the capital was empty and couldn’t figure out why people had performance issues. Which appears to be for sure people who have a s tier GPU but lower tier cpu are getting screwed. It’s incredible though because they’ve built in this pop in tech for NPCs and it’s still not great performance wise and if you can’t see NPCs doing their thing what’s the point.
Bizarre game.
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Post by farferello on Mar 26, 2024 21:22:08 GMT
Digging around on reddit and from what I could find the game is just ass backwards. It seems like only two characters get proper quest lines and 'romances' (and I say romance in a very loose sense of the word) and that romance is forced on you just for doing their quests. So if you're playing a gay male, or straight female Arisen, you're fucked I guess. Also the whole romantic side of the dragon kidnapping your Beloved and you rescuing them and the sexy-times/them living with you briefly that follows? Nope. Doesn't happen. Apparently the kidnapping isn't played as something romantic anymore. How on earth did they manage to make it worse. And the Beloved system was already complex garbage in the first game but now you can get not one, but possibly two romances forced onto you, on top of the 'surprise' of the dragon kidnapping the wrong person. Though if that's no longer romantic I guess even that doesn't matter anymore. I'm honestly baffled.
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Post by nickclark89 on Mar 26, 2024 21:30:46 GMT
oh my god so its true haha the beloved being kidnapped really means nothing and theres no male romances in the game besides high affinity characters being in your home and give you flowers (I read straight men complaining about this). So fucking lame lol the first game at least had two animated scenes with your beloved and romantic lines at home. YIKESSS!! edit. found thisMy distrust for japenese games when it comes to romance just got a new peak lol edit. for me not playing this shit is not a big loss, I was already annoyed that it was the same story again with new cosmetics, I already have an Arisen I can relate to. But its so freaking infurieting they made the "sequel" worse in every possible way lol ... anyways, next step Dreadwolf by summer time! haha
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Post by mediocreogre on Mar 26, 2024 23:29:52 GMT
So I guess we were all being optimistic it would be a similar romance system to DD1. Fucking hell lol they literally made a worse but prettier game the end game is time gated anyways so you’d be a couple for like 12 in game days until the world ends and you get the terribly implemented ng+ system so this along with Starfield is reminding me to never buy a game that builds ng+ into the story Edit nickclark89 it’s not even the same story because it’s worse. At the end You discover gransys buried under the ocean, so basically everything our arisen did is meaningless!
And there is no quest addressing the pawn to arisen cycle, so that isn’t in this game!
Truly bizarre
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Post by nickclark89 on Mar 27, 2024 13:14:31 GMT
Edit nickclark89 it’s not even the same story because it’s worse. At the end You discover gransys buried under the ocean, so basically everything our arisen did is meaningless!
And there is no quest addressing the pawn to arisen cycle, so that isn’t in this game!
Truly bizarre thats... definitely a choice... wow. They really said fuck the first game yikesl
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Post by disgustednoise on Mar 28, 2024 2:02:55 GMT
Well I never finished the first one so I guess I can just play that instead if I ever get tired of BG3.
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Post by Lee on Mar 30, 2024 2:44:26 GMT
Same. At least the first game has gay content. I doubt I'll ever get past how much I dislike the combat. Perhaps, I'll give it another shot eventually.
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Post by mediocreogre on Mar 31, 2024 19:50:38 GMT
I’ve seen first murmurs online that the dragon can choose children again… the first time that was laughed off as an oversight. If it’s in this game too… what the fuck is this game.
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Post by nickclark89 on Mar 31, 2024 21:04:05 GMT
I’ve seen first murmurs online that the dragon can choose children again… the first time that was laughed off as an oversight. If it’s in this game too… what the fuck is this game. at least this time the beloved is not a romance but yeah is disgusting anyways
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Post by mediocreogre on Apr 1, 2024 12:40:59 GMT
I guess it doesn’t help that in the code it appears to be exactly the same system (it prioritizes the last npc with max affinity you talk to) and the affinity system is romance adjacent so people assume it is but it kinda isn’t.
It seems to be just a metaphor for this game. They took the same system, left egregious weird shit, and made it worse for normal people who want a male romance. But also apparently the whole affinity/dragon thing is so boring this game.
Also apparently if you hire all male pawns (I think all women too) they basically endlessly go on about how it’s because of your preferences (entendre there) but of course there isn’t really a male romance for girl or boy arisen lol so essentially this game just bullies people who wanna kiss a dude.
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Post by mediocreogre on Apr 7, 2024 14:12:35 GMT
You can kind of sort of romance your main pawn, which if you do has a unique ending. Which has cutscenes. So there is technically a real male romance if you make a male pawn. Personally, romancing a pawn is kinda creepy.
But it’s actually the most fleshed out relationship if you do that as they are with you all the time, talk about you, blush when you look at them, and make suggestive comments.
My straight friend made their pawn look like their brother, so it’s also potentially disturbing people lol
But some of might find this important in your choices on this game.
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